[isleaiw1]

Goku, on 19 May 2025 - 05:52 PM, said:

Yep well when you leave the biggest trading bloc going and then realise you need to make some money back you have to make some concessions. That’s how business works. It’s easy to snipe from the sidelines, it’s much harder when you’re actually in power and have to make decisions. Sound familiar?

Absolutely, that is your way of saying they are as shit as the last lot but its OK this time as they are red??

Telegraph has an article who it thinks won on each section of the agreement - bet the EU are really glad to have us back

Lets hope the massive growth we will see and reduced tax rates that will then be possible are implemented shortly.... look forward to both.

Perhaps.

PS I wouldnt have left the trading block, just the political block. After all we voted to join the trading block but I dont ever remember a referendum on joining the state of Europe.

[Goku]

isleaiw1, on 19 May 2025 - 07:01 PM, said:

Absolutely, that is your way of saying they are as shit as the last lot but its OK this time as they are red??

Telegraph has an article who it thinks won on each section of the agreement - bet the EU are really glad to have us back

Lets hope the massive growth we will see and reduced tax rates that will then be possible are implemented shortly.... look forward to both.

Perhaps.

PS I wouldnt have left the trading block, just the political block. After all we voted to join the trading block but I dont ever remember a referendum on joining the state of Europe.

Not Ian quoting the Telegraph once again 🥱 it’s every other post now! you’re my favourite little centrist who leans to the right on every single thing bar sexuality and immigration ❤️

[Mr Mercury]

Goku, on 19 May 2025 - 07:07 PM, said:

Not Ian quoting the Telegraph once again 🥱 it’s every other post now! you’re my favourite little centrist who leans to the right on every single thing bar sexuality and immigration ❤️

First the Mail, now the Telegraph, pray tell who are you allowed to quote?

[isleaiw1]

Goku, on 19 May 2025 - 07:07 PM, said:

Not Ian quoting the Telegraph once again 🥱 it’s every other post now! you’re my favourite little centrist who leans to the right on every single thing bar sexuality and immigration ❤️

I read the telegraph because the business news and sport is good. I could read the Mirror and know all the celeb gossip or the Guardian and think I was a lefty teacher.... or the independent which isnt.... prey tell me, which esteemed rag should I be reading to be a centrist on all matters?

(I'll be right on economics because tax and spend had its day back in the 60s)

[Misnomer]

As part of 'decolonising' and making the curriculum 'relevant', yet more deliberate misrepresentation and nonsense lies from those in office:

Students are being educated that Africans constructed Stonehenge, as part of "decolonised" history programmes. This assertion appears in the book, "Brilliant Black British History," which continues to be utilised in schools nationwide.

Authored by Atinuke, a British writer, originally from Nigeria, it states that, "Britain was a black nation for over 7,000 years before the arrival of white people."

Unreal....

[Goku]

isleaiw1, on 19 May 2025 - 07:13 PM, said:

I read the telegraph because the business news and sport is good. I could read the Mirror and know all the celeb gossip or the Guardian and think I was a lefty teacher.... or the independent which isnt.... prey tell me, which esteemed rag should I be reading to be a centrist on all matters?

(I'll be right on economics because tax and spend had its day back in the 60s)

I don’t like to criticise the source but You literally call it the Torygraph 🤣 read the Financial Times like a true enlightened individual such as myself.

Face it mate, you’ve spent years on here replying to every post with a ‘but Labour!!!!’ Post of your own, they could leave everybody better off and you’d still know better, zero chance of you being the true centrist you wish you were.

You’re no s42

As for your earlier comments about not being bothered about manifestos and what people say they’re going to do, Starmer campaigned on 2024 for a new deal/relationship with the EU. He’s done nowt wrong in this regard - he’s doing what he was voted in to do

Nicked the following from Reddit:

The Brexit referendum only asked: "Should the United Kingdom remain a member of the European Union or leave the European Union?"
The will of the people was followed, eventually, and that vote was 9 years ago, in 2016. There wasn't anything in the referendum about stopping working with the EU or any future restrictions, only leaving it.

This post has been edited by Goku: 19 May 2025 - 07:44 PM

[isleaiw1]

Goku, on 19 May 2025 - 07:20 PM, said:

I don’t like to criticise the source but You literally call it the Torygraph 🤣 read the Financial Times like a true enlightened individual such as myself.

Face it mate, you’ve spent years on here replying to every post with a ‘but Labour!!!!’ Post of your own, they could leave everybody better off and you’d still know better, zero chance of you being the true centrist you wish you were.

You’re no s42

You are entitled to your opinion. FT is crap for sport but I do read it at work...

I'm not. He is way too polite. I like to remind some of you that you dont really know what you are talking about and there is another viewpoint even if you like to pretend only you know the solutions. The last lot were rubbish, this lot are rubbish. The last lot showed no respect for the British public, this lot are doing the same in their own way. I'd love them to leave everybody better off, in case I dont spot it can you let me know when its happening.

Because of course, despite your modest years and life experiences, you will know best...

(cant wait to see what your views are when you are in your 50s and doing OK for yourself... my guess is you will have very different views)

[Goku]

Yes of course, only you with all your life experiences know what you’re talking about 😉

My views may well have changed by then - I do like to change my views based on things like facts, data and events 😊 take Starmer and Labour for example - rocky start (even if I agree with majority of their decisions, everyone threw a wobbler) but a steady improvement is occurring, so he and they have earned themselves some time in my books. Maybe expecting every single issue the country has to be solved in the first 16 minutes of a 90 minute match wasn’t realistic after all!

This post has been edited by Goku: 19 May 2025 - 09:54 PM

[Wooden Spoon]

Given the hand they have been dealt the dealings with the orange menace and the EU have been ok

[dim view]

 Goku, on 19 May 2025 - 09:54 PM, said:

Yes of course, only you with all your life experiences know what you’re talking about 😉

My views may well have changed by then - I do like to change my views based on things like facts, data and events 😊 take Starmer and Labour for example - rocky start (even if I agree with majority of their decisions, everyone threw a wobbler) but a steady improvement is occurring, so he and they have earned themselves some time in my books. Maybe expecting every single issue the country has to be solved in the first 16 minutes of a 90 minute match wasn’t realistic after all!

Starmer's been given a kick up the ass by Trump. He's half got his finger out on some topics but only cos of external pressure. He's still got a fight on to be labelled owt other than useless.

[Valley Blues]

Another one charged.

Adding to the Ukrainian National we’ve followed it up with a Romanian National.

https://www.bbc.co.u...es/c3088p85pero

[isleaiw1]

 Goku, on 19 May 2025 - 09:54 PM, said:

Yes of course, only you with all your life experiences know what you’re talking about 😉

My views may well have changed by then - I do like to change my views based on things like facts, data and events 😊 take Starmer and Labour for example - rocky start (even if I agree with majority of their decisions, everyone threw a wobbler) but a steady improvement is occurring, so he and they have earned themselves some time in my books. Maybe expecting every single issue the country has to be solved in the first 16 minutes of a 90 minute match wasn’t realistic after all!

Lots of people have got life experiences, some even stretch beyond one job, ine industry and one county...

I would like to see some beliefs behind his policies that are grounded some sort of economic theory and consistency. We want growth and to put the £ back in the working man's pocket - but we will ramp up taxes that will damage growth, and force job cuts and reduced pay. We want change, but we will go back to what we voted to get away from.

The man is a walking talking contradiction. It doesn't matter what colour he wears.

Let's see what life brings with this new Reset, can't say I noticed leaving caused too much damage, will I spot the £9bn in benefits or the £15bn quoted by one paper as this years cost or something along those lines.

Hey, it's no worry to me, 10 months and I am done and can watch from the sidelines as I enjoy spending my kids inheritance (just soil don't have to pay tax, you understand!). Shame I will spend most of it overseas...

[Mr Mercury]

So a second man arrested for trying to burn down Starmers property is also an aspiring East European model. Why are these aspiring East European male models trying to burn down Starmers property.? Also it would be nice if any decent reporter could ask the PM if these men are known to him, mind you of course he can’t answer if it prejudices the upcoming trial. There does seem to be some strange goings on in Starmers life.

This post has been edited by Mr Mercury: 20 May 2025 - 05:10 PM

[dart in the crossbar]

 Mr Mercury, on 20 May 2025 - 05:10 PM, said:

So a second man arrested for trying to burn down Starmers property is also an aspiring East European model. Why are these aspiring East European male models trying to burn down Starmers property.? Also it would be nice if any decent reporter could ask the PM if these men are known to him, mind you of course he can’t answer if it prejudices the upcoming trial. There does seem to be some strange goings on in Starmers life.

Perhaps when interviewed they may possibly say:

'When I was young I never wanted toys
Things like that were for little boys
My mamma got me clothes for her favourite son
Freeman's item A page 61'

as something of a preamble to

'I wanna, wanna be a male model'

[isleaiw1]

Rayner rumoured to be trying to dictate tax raising measures for next budget ( pensions, divis, banks etc) - if true will be interesting to see who wins that battle.... and the consequences of the victory!

[The Earl of Chesterfield]

Are we finally getting a glimpse of the government for which folk actually voted?

Steps towards sanity with the EU and now a decisive shift in dealing with Netanyahu?

Who today saw UK sanctions imposed upon his far right factions, his ambassador given a dressing down by Downing Street and a joint statement from ourselves, the French and Canadians demanding full access for aid.

Then there're murmurings of a u-turn of sorts in terms of the WFA. I genuinely believe the electorate might forgive - if not necessarily forget - politicians admitting they were wrong more than those digging themselves deeper into a hole.

Back to Netanyahu and he could become even further isolated by a Trump smoozing up to the Saudi's.

A Trump signing multi-billion dollar deals with a regime refusing to progress discussions over the region's rebuild unless the IDF withdraw.

A Trump facing a future flying in his own personal half a billion pound jumbo jet donated by that same hegemony.

I doubt these events are mere coincidence...

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[Mr Mercury]

 The Earl of Chesterfield, on 20 May 2025 - 08:08 PM, said:

I genuinely believe the electorate might forgive

Welcome back to the cess pit. Is it cleansed now, are posters, who were leaving in droves, now returning? Is it rational debate when you post but a hovel of hate when you don’t?I’m perplexed..anyhow
No they won’t, they won’t forgive the complete taking the knee to the EU and that treacherous cockroach of a PM ignoring the referendum result and hanging the UK fisherman out to dry, you’ve obviously not listened to any of their interviews. The deal that hands so much back to Brussels for so little in return.
They won’t forgive the removal of the WFA and the public know if there is any reign back it’s not done because it would be the right thing to do it’s because they’re petrified of Reform. And has the £22 billion black hole now disappeared or was that another lie.
They won’t forgive the shafting of the farmers with the inheritance tax.
They won’t forgive the lies over the Waspi women support.
They won’t forgive the lies over smashing the gangs whilst immigration soars.
They won’t forgive the free medical care, help and support, food, clothing and lodging that’s provided to illegal immigrants that some of our poorer citizens can only dream of.
They won’t forgive the lies of the Southport cover up.
They won’t forgive being called far right.
They won’t forgive the two tier justice so often on show.
They won’t forgive two tier Keir and his greed and avarice for anything and everything.
They won’t forgive the benefit cuts for our disabled and most needy
They won’t forgive energy bills soaring to unaffordable levels when they were promised they would drop.
They won’t forgive council tax bills rising when they were promised that “not a penny more” would be added to them.
They arnt concered about finger waving at Netanyahu. Although I’ll concede it’ll be a vote saver in a few circles.
They arnt concerned about him trying to look big in the World stage whilst he turns a blind eye to areas of the UK becoming sh.t holes
But most of all they won’t forgive him or his party because the electorate are clever and savvy enough to know that Starmer and this hateful government haven't suddenly got a soul, they haven’t suddenly become a bastion of common sense, caring and service. They’re doing it out of one thing, self preservation, and the voting public can see right through it. If it wasn’t for Reform taking the fight to them and understanding the fears of many UK citizens they’d have continued on their hateful journey against the British people.
Starmer and Labour are finished, it’s just that a few are too blind to see it yet.

This post has been edited by Mr Mercury: 20 May 2025 - 09:00 PM

[oldgoat]

The Jerusalem thread is quiet

[Mr Mercury]

 oldgoat, on 20 May 2025 - 08:42 PM, said:

The Jerusalem thread is quiet

Wrong thread my friend.

[Mr Mercury]

Reeves determined to “go further and faster” to “put more money in the pockets of working people”..as inflation surges.
A government of cheap soundbites and disastrous policies and deals.