[Valley Blues]

Bloke who attempted to torch Starmer’s gaff is a Ukrainian National living over here.

Fleeing the war?

[dtp]

Goku, on 15 May 2025 - 06:41 PM, said:

Because maths is difficult (I foolishly believed what somebody on Reddit wrote, my bad if it’s wrong)

No problem, mate.

I think the technical term is “RR Syndrome”.

[Mr Mercury]

Starmer now to Royaly shaft fisherman by allowing EU boats access to UK eaters for the next four years?

[Mr Mercury]

Valley Blues, on 16 May 2025 - 10:07 AM, said:

Bloke who attempted to torch Starmer’s gaff is a Ukrainian National living over here.

Fleeing the war?

Another young man arrested over the fires at Starmers properties..hmm the plot thickens.

[Wooden Spoon]

Burgerman, on 14 May 2025 - 07:30 AM, said:

Been off grid for a few days and only just managed to see Starmer's immigration speech. I had to watch it twice as I could not believe what I was hearing. The man is so out of touch with the general public it's embarrassing, he's a complete idiot.

I suspect the majority of normal folk don't have a problem with legal immigration, the Care Sector and farming it going to take a massive hit and that's not what people want.

When will he get it into his thick skull that illegal immigration is where government failings are, there is no control and that's why the recent local elections went the way they did. Illegal immigration is putting a strain on this country the size of which has never been seen before, he just sits in his ivory tower hoping no one notices.

Your second paragraph is spot on, as is your last.


He’s gone from spending several years saying the Labour Party need to make the case for migration to saying in the last 2 weeks labour need to stop Britain becoming an island of strangers.


Just as he spent years saying it’s wrong to say only women have a cervix, or 99% of women don’t have have a penis to saying in the last few weeks that a woman is defined by her biology.


The man has no ideology, stands for nothing and changes direction with wind.


He can’t be trusted, because he stands for nothing and clearly doesn’t believe in anything because if he he did he’d plant a few flags in the sand and stand by them. But he has no flags, he stands for nothing, he has no ideology he stands by.


All he’s doing is alienating people. His old school tradition voters have turned away, as they did over brexit and gone reform.


The progressive elements are horrified at his “island of strangers” speech and are more likely to go green.


Floating voters look and shake heads in disbelief


He’s so far out of touch with ordinary normal working class people he’s need the James Webb telescope to see them. The absolute epitome of the metropolitan political elite.


At this time Starmer has done to labour what Johnson, Truss and Sunak took 5 years to achieve with the tories. Without wanting to to be overly hyperbolic he’s in danger of reducing the Labour Party to a third or fourth rate party behind reform, liberal and Tory.


This must be what he meant by going hard and fast for change

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[Mr Mercury]

Wooden Spoon, on 18 May 2025 - 08:40 PM, said:

Your second paragraph is spot on, as is your last.


He’s gone from spending several years saying the Labour Party need to make the case for migration to saying in the last 2 weeks labour need to stop Britain becoming an island of strangers.


Just as he spent years saying it’s wrong to say only women have a cervix, or 99% of women don’t have have a penis to saying in the last few weeks that a woman is defined by her biology.


The man has no ideology, stands for nothing and changes direction with wind.


He can’t be trusted, because he stands for nothing and clearly doesn’t believe in anything because if he he did he’d plant a few flags in the sand and stand by them. But he has no flags, he stands for nothing, he has no ideology he stands by.


All he’s doing is alienating people. His old school tradition voters have turned away, as they did over brexit and gone reform.


The progressive elements are horrified at his “island of strangers” speech and are more likely to go green.


Floating voters look and shake heads in disbelief


He’s so far out of touch with ordinary normal working class people he’s need the James Webb telescope to see them. The absolute epitome of the metropolitan political elite.


At this time Starmer has done to labour what Johnson, Truss and Sunak took 5 years to achieve with the tories. Without wanting to to be overly hyperbolic he’s in danger of reducing the Labour Party to a third or fourth rate party behind reform, liberal and Tory.


This must be what he meant by going hard and fast for change

I used to be ridiculed over my stance that the Parliamentary Labour Party was the party of the Metropolitan elite, how right that term was. Anyway…
Wait until his EU reset hits town.
And what the hell happening with these arson attacks at two residences and on his car?
That’s an attack on property and a car of the UK PM, investigated by anti terror police, two arrests, one a so called 21 yr old Ukrainian male model, who may or may not be involved in other paid for activities, and yet it’s received so little media coverage and not a single statement from the PM himself or indeed the Labour Party or the government itself.
What the hell is going on with our PM?

This post has been edited by Mr Mercury: 18 May 2025 - 09:57 PM

[Bonnyman]

Mr Mercury, on 17 May 2025 - 03:09 PM, said:

Starmer now to Royaly shaft fisherman by allowing EU boats access to UK eaters for the next four years?

Not the only thing he has been shafting if you believe rumours

[Mr Mercury]

Bonnyman, on 18 May 2025 - 10:08 PM, said:

Not the only thing he has been shafting if you believe rumours

There’s one hell of a dark and tangled web seemingly starting to revolve around our PM. All “sneers and smears” I’m sure.

This post has been edited by Mr Mercury: 18 May 2025 - 10:35 PM

[Goku]

Great to see Sir Keir and the gang arranging what sounds like a fantastic deal with the EU. No doubt there'll be a plethora of right wing zealots who haven't yet matured and realised that as part of a negotiation you can't just demand everything and give nothing up in return specifically regarding allowing EU access to our waters, but it'll just go to show how polarised politics is now and then literally nothing that Labour do can be recognised as good. Pitiful, really. And, as Tory peer Stuart Rose says:

Quote

In an interview with Times Radio, asked if agreed with the “surrender” claim made by the Tories, Rose replied:

No, it’s nonsense. I really am quite disappointed and sad that I live in a country – you know, I am a Conservative, although I am not a politically active Conservative, I’m not a politician. But to hear that the Conservatives are saying we must be rule givers and not rule takers. It’s about giving a bit, taking a bit, and understanding this is a very difficult, unpleasant world we live in.

And we’ve got to make sure that for the UK public and for the UK, we do our best. That’s what we elect our politicians to do. That’s what I expect them to do. And talking about small things like surrender is pathetic.

Rose, who was a leading anti-Brexit campaigner in 2016 (unlike those leading the Conservative party now), described the deal as a “win” for Britain.

Keep it up Labour, some excellent work being done in recent weeks.

This post has been edited by Goku: 19 May 2025 - 09:09 AM

[Mr Mercury]

Goku, on 19 May 2025 - 09:08 AM, said:

Great to see Sir Keir and the gang arranging what sounds like a fantastic deal with the EU. No doubt there'll be a plethora of right wing zealots who haven't yet matured and realised that as part of a negotiation you can't just demand everything and give nothing up in return specifically regarding allowing EU access to our waters, but it'll just go to show how polarised politics is now and then literally nothing that Labour do can be recognised as good. Pitiful, really. And, as Tory peer Stuart Rose says:



Keep it up Labour, some excellent work being done in recent weeks.

Add fishermen to the long list of those shafted by traitor Starmer

[Goku]

Mr Mercury, on 19 May 2025 - 09:10 AM, said:

Add fishermen to the long list of those shafted by traitor Starmer

Zealot.

We give access to fishing waters for longer which apparently amounts to 0.03% of GDP (fuck all) and in return remove barriers to trade which is an estimated 0.1% boost to GDP. Also paves way for arms deals (a gross but necessary thing, 2.5% of GDP is arms, again apparently, I've not fact-checked this so happy to be corrected).

Cult Leader Farage says this'll be the end of the fishing industry nah, it's BAU, it'll be a big nothingburger just like the WFP becoming means-tested was. But it'll rile up the simpletons, as ever. Oh, and we get access to e-gates again.

Deals like this are needed because Brexiteers such as your good self voted to gimp the country. So you certainly have no right to complain when Labour try and sort the mess you and others got us into

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[Mr Mercury]

Goku, on 19 May 2025 - 09:12 AM, said:

Zealot.

We give access to fishing waters for longer which apparently amounts to 0.03% of GDP (fuck all) and in return remove barriers to trade which is an estimated 0.1% boost to GDP. Also paves way for arms deals (a gross but necessary thing, 2.5% of GDP is arms, again apparently, I've not fact-checked this so happy to be corrected).

Cult Leader Farage says this'll be the end of the fishing industry nah, it's BAU, it'll be a big nothingburger just like the WFP becoming means-tested was. But it'll rile up the simpletons, as ever. Oh, and we get access to e-gates again.

Deals like this are needed because Brexiteers such as your good self voted to gimp the country. So you certainly have no right to complain when Labour try and sort the mess you and others got us into

Starmer surrendering to the EU. Nobody’s on the least bit surprised.

[Goku]

Mr Mercury, on 19 May 2025 - 10:02 AM, said:

Starmer surrendering to the EU. Nobody’s on the least bit surprised.

Brain rot.

[Mr Mercury]

Goku, on 19 May 2025 - 10:12 AM, said:

Brain rot.

Just an opinion mate, no need for all the personal angst.

[jonnythespireite]

Goku, on 19 May 2025 - 10:12 AM, said:

Brain rot.

They're too far gone to bother 'debating' with.........

[Goku]

jonnythespireite, on 19 May 2025 - 10:29 AM, said:

They're too far gone to bother 'debating' with.........

Same people who used to bang on about the "Cult of Corbyn" fail to see the irony of themselves being fully indoctrinated in a cult. Some even pay money for the indoctrination...

[Spire-ite]

jonnythespireite, on 19 May 2025 - 10:29 AM, said:

They're too far gone to bother 'debating' with.........

Yeah you’re correct, the Liebour party have definitely gone. Good riddance. The future election results will be fabulous to see.

[Mr Mercury]

Goku, on 19 May 2025 - 10:41 AM, said:

Same people who used to bang on about the "Cult of Corbyn" fail to see the irony of themselves being fully indoctrinated in a cult. Some even pay money for the indoctrination...

And donate!

[frearsghost]

Goku, on 19 May 2025 - 10:41 AM, said:

Same people who used to bang on about the "Cult of Corbyn" fail to see the irony of themselves being fully indoctrinated in a cult. Some even pay money for the indoctrination...

One man labeled Farage a cult leader. You've mangled this to claim Reforn are a cult which, of course, is nonsense.

Your acrobatics with language is similar to that of another well know poster whom you appear to be overtaking in the insult league table. We all have opinons Josh but how is it that you speak the truth while others are indoctrinated? Or, as your mate would put it - everybody has an opinion but those who disagree with my narrative, peddle and parrot. That's not really how it works is it fella.

[frearsghost]

jonnythespireite, on 19 May 2025 - 10:29 AM, said:

They're too far gone to bother 'debating' with.........

With respect, we've had the debate and the people voted to leave the EU so that we could become law makers not law takers.