[whittman]

Brookie, on 01 July 2024 - 07:21 AM, said:

Switzerland are a team with a system of play that suits their players, we are the opposite

we have a system that Southgate wants to play around his chosen set of favourite players we have blundered through simply because of the general quality or not of the opposition we have faced so far


That time is now running out so unless there is a big change in tactics attitude etc then Saturday should finally be the end of our involvement in the tournament

[dim view]

60s 70s Spireite, on 30 June 2024 - 09:03 PM, said:

Hopefully then, we will see more long throw ins and engineering of set pieces. Cos the possession football we are attempting is creating zero.

When Stones stands on the ball and invites a forrad to get very close before passing it sideways, he's always 15 yards in his own half. He should be 5 yards in their half. What's more, he's no Beckenbauer and he'll eventually get caught.

In my opinion, the root cause of the problem is that we've got brute force trying to support Kane rather than somebody with world, or even European class number 10 skills. So there's nobody looking for angles, runs, creating, making others play in the danger area. Ironically when Kane himself dropped into that position after Toney came on, he did it better than any bogger else in the team - and Sarfgate took him off.

[60s 70s Spireite]

dim view, on 01 July 2024 - 08:15 AM, said:

When Stones stands on the ball and invites a forrad to get very close before passing it sideways, he's always 15 yards in his own half. He should be 5 yards in their half. What's more, he's no Beckenbauer and he'll eventually get caught.

In my opinion, the root cause of the problem is that we've got brute force trying to support Kane rather than somebody with world, or even European class number 10 skills. So there's nobody looking for angles, runs, creating, making others play in the danger area. Ironically when Kane himself dropped into that position after Toney came on, he did it better than any bogger else in the team - and Sarfgate took him off.

Too many of our creative players are standing on the toes of the back line.
Most bizarre tactic is our full backs standing by the corner flag to receive a backward pass from Pickford. With now where to go next,
Most bizarre moment of the tournament so far. Stones not being ready for the short free kick and Slovakia nearly scoring from the half way line from the loose ball.

[Osborne again]

60s 70s Spireite, on 01 July 2024 - 08:27 AM, said:

Too many of our creative players are standing on the toes of the back line.
Most bizarre tactic is our full backs standing by the corner flag to receive a backward pass from Pickford. With now where to go next,
Most bizarre moment of the tournament so far. Stones not being ready for the short free kick and Slovakia nearly scoring from the half way line from the loose ball.

They're standing by the corner flag, so they can relate to the ones at the other end, on the slight off chance they may encounter one 😂😂😂. Joking apart mate, I really am bamboozled by the tactics on show. We've got into the next round despite the set-up not because of it. I think he'll have to shuffle the pack and go back to his coaching manual for the game against the Swiss team.

[MrTall]

The negative tactics are evident from the moment we kick off - we pass it backwards straight to Pickford. It's all very bizarre.

[DIFH]

MrTall, on 01 July 2024 - 10:25 AM, said:

The negative tactics are evident from the moment we kick off - we pass it backwards straight to Pickford. It's all very bizarre.

I still want to know the name of his replacement before we jump out of the frying pan into the fire.

[Wooden Spoon]

DIFH, on 01 July 2024 - 01:40 PM, said:

I still want to know the name of his replacement before we jump out of the frying pan into the fire.

Gary O?niel

Graham Potter

Edie Howe

Sean Dyche

[sixmilliondollardan]

You could throw a dart at a list of managers from the championship to the national league and have a more than 50 percent chance of getting a better choice.

[The Earl of Chesterfield]

Wooden Spoon, on 01 July 2024 - 02:01 PM, said:

Gary O?niel

Graham Potter

Edie Howe

Sean Dyche

Pep...

[spireitetoo]

Jurgen's at a loose end these days.

This post has been edited by spireitetoo: 01 July 2024 - 03:40 PM

[calvin plummers socks]

Wooden Spoon, on 01 July 2024 - 02:01 PM, said:

Gary O?niel

Graham Potter

Edie Howe

Sean Dyche

What makes you think anyone of these would do a better job?

[sixmilliondollardan]

calvin plummers socks, on 01 July 2024 - 03:28 PM, said:

What makes you think anyone of these would do a better job?

To do worse you would have to be actively sabotaging the team.

[Osborne again]

The negativity on show from the Iceland game onwards has been there for all to see. We got away with it again, but a more accomplished side will tear through this lot. I watch a game to be entertained not bored silly. Two well taken goals but thirty seconds to go is cutting it fine to say the least.

[calvin plummers socks]

Osborne again, on 01 July 2024 - 03:51 PM, said:

The negativity on show from the Iceland game onwards has been there for all to see. We got away with it again, but a more accomplished side will tear through this lot. I watch a game to be entertained not bored silly. Two well taken goals but thirty seconds to go is cutting it fine to say the least.

How about a bit of positivity? It?s a results business - we are in the quarters with the (2nd) best defensive record.
You say a more accomplished side will tear us apart- when was the last time an Eng team was torn apart?
Can?t see that happening whatsoever.

[calvin plummers socks]

sixmilliondollardan, on 01 July 2024 - 03:50 PM, said:

To do worse you would have to be actively sabotaging the team.

Worse than a QF in the sports second biggest tournament?

Good grief

[sixmilliondollardan]

calvin plummers socks, on 01 July 2024 - 04:05 PM, said:

Worse than a QF in the sports second biggest tournament?

Good grief

Any half way competent manager, and some incompetent (as Southgate has proven), would do the same with these players.

This post has been edited by sixmilliondollardan: 01 July 2024 - 04:44 PM

[azul]

Nice to see it ain?t just England putting in turgid performance. France are challenging us on the front

[Osborne again]

I certainly won't be rushing back from Matlock so I can be bored again, but at least they put some effort into singing the national anthem.

[spireitetoo]

azul, on 01 July 2024 - 04:44 PM, said:

Nice to see it ain?t just England putting in turgid performance. France are challenging us on the front

And those complaining about kane dropping deep should note that lukaku is almost playing centreback at the moment.

[Osborne again]

azul, on 01 July 2024 - 04:44 PM, said:

Nice to see it ain?t just England putting in turgid performance. France are challenging us on the front

It's catching 🤔.