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dtp, on 07 November 2023 - 07:55 AM, said:

Pace is one thing but speed of thought is another.

Bobby Moore wasn't fast but very good at being in the right place at the right time.

Will Grigg isn't fast but, again reads the game wel, such as in the way he closed their keeper down in the opening seconds on Sunday.

You can have all the pace in the world but if it's not used properly then you often end up in the wrong place at the wrong time.

You don’t think pace can be improved by training?

[born in 1866]

calvin plummers socks, on 07 November 2023 - 01:52 PM, said:

You don’t think pace can be improved by training?

Pace is a natural attribute. No amount of training will get any of us challenging Usain Bolt.

[JonB]

born in 1866, on 07 November 2023 - 02:10 PM, said:

Pace is a natural attribute. No amount of training will get any of us challenging Usain Bolt.

Better technique can make a big difference....yes you're not going to make Joe Quigley run Bolt close but you can make people more mobile with better technique and training to enhance their running muscles i would have thought.

[calvin plummers socks]

born in 1866, on 07 November 2023 - 02:10 PM, said:

Pace is a natural attribute. No amount of training will get any of us challenging Usain Bolt.

Quite frankly the most ridiculous thing I’ve ever read on the internet

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JonB, on 07 November 2023 - 02:13 PM, said:

Better technique can make a big difference....yes you're not going to make Joe Quigley run Bolt close but you can make people more mobile with better technique and training to enhance their running muscles i would have thought.

I don’t know why these athletes / race horses / greyhound even bother training……

[born in 1866]

JonB, on 07 November 2023 - 02:13 PM, said:

Better technique can make a big difference....yes you're not going to make Joe Quigley run Bolt close but you can make people more mobile with better technique and training to enhance their running muscles i would have thought.

But they need that natural ability to start with.
And we're not talking shaving a couple of seconds off a 100m, the most a player needs pace is over a few yards so you might get a few inches of improvement, but if you improve his anticipation you will gain far more inches.

[JonB]

born in 1866, on 07 November 2023 - 02:21 PM, said:

But they need that natural ability to start with.
And we're not talking shaving a couple of seconds off a 100m, the most a player needs pace is over a few yards so you might get a few inches of improvement, but if you improve his anticipation you will gain far more inches.

Samy Morsy obviously thought it was worth doing as he did work with a running coach while with us a few years ago :-
https://vimeo.com/107321215

"Midfielder Samy Morsy works with The Running Coach to develop his running agility, efficiency and speed. Hear Sam's views on the coaching and how this has helped his game!

Interview with Lead Coach Chris Adams & CFC Samy Morsy"

[Goku]

calvin plummers socks, on 07 November 2023 - 02:15 PM, said:

Quite frankly the most ridiculous thing I’ve ever read on the internet

You say this every other day. It lessens the impact of the statement, just FYI.

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Goku, on 07 November 2023 - 02:30 PM, said:

You say this every other day. It lessens the impact of the statement, just FYI.

True dat - but when someone suggests training won’t make you faster it makes me want to eat my own feet

[JonB]

calvin plummers socks, on 07 November 2023 - 02:38 PM, said:

True dat - but when someone suggests training won’t make you faster it makes me want to eat my own feet

That definitely wouldnt make you any faster....

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JonB, on 07 November 2023 - 02:41 PM, said:

That definitely wouldnt make you any faster....

True! But I don’t need to be any faster!

[dtp]

calvin plummers socks, on 07 November 2023 - 01:52 PM, said:

You don’t think pace can be improved by training?

I didn't say that.

But, pace without positional sense doesn't necessarily improve a player.

Being in the right place at the right time is better than being the quickest to get to the wrong place.

[calvin plummers socks]

dtp, on 07 November 2023 - 02:58 PM, said:

I didn't say that.

But, pace without positional sense doesn't necessarily improve a player.

Being in the right place at the right time is better than being the quickest to get to the wrong place.

#saywhatyousee

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calvin plummers socks, on 07 November 2023 - 02:53 PM, said:

True! But I don’t need to be any faster!

I'm fast ......
In every flippin joint!

[hilly81]

born in 1866, on 07 November 2023 - 02:10 PM, said:

Pace is a natural attribute. No amount of training will get any of us challenging Usain Bolt.

I starterd running just under 5 years ago. My mile time back then would have been about 8 minutes. If I raced a mile now, I'd be looking to break 5 minutes. I'm nearly 42. I'll never challenge Usain Bolt over 100 meters but then I'm not a phenom.

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calvin plummers socks, on 07 November 2023 - 02:15 PM, said:

Quite frankly the most ridiculous thing I’ve ever read on the internet

You obviously don’t surf much then…. Or read the Gerbil fella.

You kinda know what he’s saying though.

[born in 1866]

calvin plummers socks, on 07 November 2023 - 02:15 PM, said:

Quite frankly the most ridiculous thing I’ve ever read on the internet

I never said training won't make you faster.
I said: If you do not have the natural ability to run fast, no amount of training will have you challenging Usain Bolt.

BIG DIFFERENCE

Read the post before making ridiculous statements.

[JonB]

born in 1866, on 07 November 2023 - 04:09 PM, said:

I never said training won't make you faster.
I said: If you do not have the natural ability to run fast, no amount of training will have you challenging Usain Bolt.

BIG DIFFERENCE

Read the post before making ridiculous statements.

To be fair i'm not sure anyone said that training would make you as fast as Bolt....

[born in 1866]

JonB, on 07 November 2023 - 02:25 PM, said:

Samy Morsy obviously thought it was worth doing as he did work with a running coach while with us a few years ago :-
https://vimeo.com/107321215

"Midfielder Samy Morsy works with The Running Coach to develop his running agility, efficiency and speed. Hear Sam's views on the coaching and how this has helped his game!

Interview with Lead Coach Chris Adams & CFC Samy Morsy"

Good point but my belief is the more time spent on running techniques just to gain half a yard is less time spent on the bread and butter stuff like shooting, passing etc.

[born in 1866]

JonB, on 07 November 2023 - 04:12 PM, said:

To be fair i'm not sure anyone said that training would make you as fast as Bolt....

Apparently CPS believes so as me saying it wouldn't was the most ridiculous thing he had ever read.