[NEBlue]

RichThomps1, on 01 July 2023 - 07:39 PM, said:

Which would people have out of Dallas or Macauley Bonne??

Dallas no question for me

[metallilad]

Wooden Spoon, on 01 July 2023 - 05:59 PM, said:

Even if we change managers, we should be looking to recruit managers with a certain football philosophy- that way the transition will be smoother and they would be looking at/for similar players.

Could this be the reason why Dyer has been given an opportunity? Helped by Cookie, could be a natural progression when he takes us up to league one.

[Mac's Back]

peakblue, on 01 July 2023 - 06:36 PM, said:

I can remember saying the same when cookie was here first.
And what a disaster that ended up,with new owners it’s imperative that doesn’t happen again

Well, it's a nice idea.

Given that the Trust has thus far demonstrated a very poor grasp of effectively running a football club, do you really expect them to have any idea whatsoever when it comes to understanding the many nuances of footballing philosophy? The simplest way is surely to look to develop an identity and then promote from within as and when the Manager moves on. Wholesale clear outs of the management team every few years is such an incredibly costly exercise and a clear indicator that there's no semblance of a longer term plan. Sadly, there's precious little evidence of this type of planning at the very top of the pyramid, so the likelihood of CFC getting this right is, I'd imagine, pretty slim.

[dtp]

RichThomps1, on 01 July 2023 - 07:39 PM, said:

Which would people have out of Dallas or Macauley Bonne??

I'd rather have, and will be fully behind, whoever we sign whether it's one of them or someone else.

[TheSpireite1866]

Monday morning???

[martatcross]

Benno Spire, on 01 July 2023 - 06:51 PM, said:

Hopefully unveiled at Matlock on Tuesday

Matlock can't afford him

[Cfc4me]

Genuine question... what have the trust done so badly wrong to upset people?

They rescued the club when it was at one of its lowest points and gave up their time to make sure we still had a club when no-one else would.

They got us through a global pandemic without getting into ridiculous amount of debt, whilst being able to generate very little income.

They've laid the foundations to bring exciting football back and given us all hope again.

And thats not to mention all the good work they do for our community.

Yes the Kirks have business acumen to make a profit in their respective businesses, but do they have any more experience in running a football club than the trust?

Or is that naive of me to think that way?

[Mr Mercury]

Cfc4me, on 01 July 2023 - 08:36 PM, said:

Genuine question... what have the trust done so badly wrong to upset people?

They rescued the club when it was at one of its lowest points and gave up their time to make sure we still had a club when no-one else would.

They got us through a global pandemic without getting into ridiculous amount of debt, whilst being able to generate very little income.

They've laid the foundations to bring exciting football back and given us all hope again.

And thats not to mention all the good work they do for our community.

Yes the Kirks have business acumen to make a profit in their respective businesses, but do they have any more experience in running a football club than the trust?

Or is that naive of me to think that way?

“Without getting into ridiculous amounts of debt”…
Really?

[Cfc4me]

Mr Mercury, on 01 July 2023 - 08:41 PM, said:

“Without getting into ridiculous amounts of debt”…
Really?

Ok you've answered that part... how about i rephrase it to insurmountable... is it an insurmountable amount of debt were in?

This post has been edited by Cfc4me: 01 July 2023 - 08:49 PM

[Mr Mercury]

Cfc4me, on 01 July 2023 - 08:48 PM, said:

Ok you've answered that part... how about i rephrase it to insurmountable... is I an insurmountable amount of debt were in?

Only insurmountable due to more money coming on board.

[Rogerwillis]

Cfc4me, on 01 July 2023 - 08:36 PM, said:

Genuine question... what have the trust done so badly wrong to upset people?

They rescued the club when it was at one of its lowest points and gave up their time to make sure we still had a club when no-one else would.

They got us through a global pandemic without getting into ridiculous amount of debt, whilst being able to generate very little income.

They've laid the foundations to bring exciting football back and given us all hope again.

And thats not to mention all the good work they do for our community.

Yes the Kirks have business acumen to make a profit in their respective businesses, but do they have any more experience in running a football club than the trust?

Or is that naive of me to think that way?

Trust haven’t put a foot wrong.

See previous ownership for details

[Fact Checker]

Cfc4me, on 01 July 2023 - 08:36 PM, said:

Genuine question... what have the trust done so badly wrong to upset people?

They rescued the club when it was at one of its lowest points and gave up their time to make sure we still had a club when no-one else would.

They got us through a global pandemic without getting into ridiculous amount of debt, whilst being able to generate very little income.

They've laid the foundations to bring exciting football back and given us all hope again.

And thats not to mention all the good work they do for our community.

Yes the Kirks have business acumen to make a profit in their respective businesses, but do they have any more experience in running a football club than the trust?

Or is that naive of me to think that way?

Absolutely correct. People have very short memories, my friend.

[Ernie Ernie Ernie]

Rogerwillis, on 01 July 2023 - 08:54 PM, said:

Trust haven’t put a foot wrong.

See previous ownership for details

Put no financial controls in place which allowed someone to fleece the club for thousands?

[Wooden Spoon]

Cfc4me, on 01 July 2023 - 08:36 PM, said:

Genuine question... what have the trust done so badly wrong to upset people?

They rescued the club when it was at one of its lowest points and gave up their time to make sure we still had a club when no-one else would.

They got us through a global pandemic without getting into ridiculous amount of debt, whilst being able to generate very little income.

They've laid the foundations to bring exciting football back and given us all hope again.

And thats not to mention all the good work they do for our community.

Yes the Kirks have business acumen to make a profit in their respective businesses, but do they have any more experience in running a football club than the trust?

Or is that naive of me to think that way?

People make mistakes. It’s human nature.


Some of the trust/board might not be experts at running a business- but they have reached out to some who are


Over all I think we should be happy with how things have gone so far

[metallilad]

So now we're being critical of the very people who bailed us out of trouble.
Just let that sink in.
The Trust were chosen to take over because they were the most likely to fail, making the previous jokes look like kings and yet along with us supporters they saved and built up the club. Yes, they were naive but they have overseen a rebuild of our club.
Give them a fu**in break!
Our non league club is now a bigger club than most league one or two clubs and who do we owe that to?

[DIFH]

NEBlue, on 01 July 2023 - 05:37 PM, said:

According to some bloke on Facebook, he works in aldi and a player came in today and when asked said that Dallas wasn’t in Portugal so they don’t expect him to sign. I love this fan base sometimes hahaha

Aldi/Tesco ? There’s the credibility.

[Fact Checker]

metallilad, on 01 July 2023 - 11:41 PM, said:

So now we're being critical of the very people who bailed us out of trouble.
Just let that sink in.
The Trust were chosen to take over because they were the most likely to fail, making the previous jokes look like kings and yet along with us supporters they saved and built up the club. Yes, they were naive but they have overseen a rebuild of our club.
Give them a fu**in break!
Our non league club is now a bigger club than most league one or two clubs and who do we owe that to?

This.
It’s absolutely astonishing that some fans continue to make unjustified jibes at the very people who saved the club. Without the trust, we wouldn’t have CFC right now.

[Manfred Archie Mac Gerbil]

Fact Checker said:

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This.
It's absolutely astonishing that some fans continue to make unjustified jibes at the very people who saved the club. Without the trust, we wouldn't have CFC right now.

Some of our so called fans have always behaved like that. I remember how they treated Mr Hubbard (the most transparent chairman in CFC history). He got dog loads of abuse even when he took out a personal loan and used £100,000 of his own money to save the club.
There’s always gonna be a section of CFC ‘supporters’ and I use that term very loosely who are complete ingrates that’ll still be moaning even when we win the league next season.

[peakblue]

Mac, on 01 July 2023 - 07:41 PM, said:

Well, it's a nice idea.

Given that the Trust has thus far demonstrated a very poor grasp of effectively running a football club, do you really expect them to have any idea whatsoever when it comes to understanding the many nuances of footballing philosophy? The simplest way is surely to look to develop an identity and then promote from within as and when the Manager moves on. Wholesale clear outs of the management team every few years is such an incredibly costly exercise and a clear indicator that there's no semblance of a longer term plan. Sadly, there's precious little evidence of this type of planning at the very top of the pyramid, so the likelihood of CFC getting this right is, I'd imagine, pretty slim.

[peakblue]

If it wasn’t for the trust we wouldn’t have a club today
When cook left our next manager was dean Saunders,under Allen and co
So I don’t get your point at all