[clarevoyant.]

How will the hierarchy at National League HQ view todays events?
Flares thrown on the pitch on numerous occasions and the dealing with said flares being somewhat none PC and H&S safety conscious ie. picking them up and chucking them off the pitch.
Having stewards etc policing away fans but doing nowt to stop a large % of the crowd invading the pitch with flares goading away fans and allowing someone to pick up a cornerflag run the full length of the pitch and hurl it into a crowd of opposition fans in full view of countless but inactive alleged stewards

Anyone know why Cookie got very animated on at least 2 occasions in the 1st half with what looked like a crowd control officer?

It'll be interesting to see how/if the NL management have any reaction to todays events which without argument bought the NLs credibility into disrepute

[JonB]

Tv commentary suggested something to do with an altercation with a fan as to why cook was speaking to a steward.

[clarevoyant.]

JonB, on 29 May 2022 - 10:44 PM, said:

Tv commentary suggested something to do with an altercation with a fan as to why cook was speaking to a steward.

Could be, Cookie appeared to be pointing upwards to the (posh) rent a scarf subuteo, brains trust seats, call them what you will. But in othere words the ones who hold sway at this bizarrely run club.

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[Lincs Spireite]

clarevoyant., on 29 May 2022 - 10:39 PM, said:

How will the hierarchy at National League HQ view todays events?
Flares thrown on the pitch on numerous occasions and the dealing with said flares being somewhat none PC and H&S safety conscious ie. picking them up and chucking them off the pitch.
Having stewards etc policing away fans but doing nowt to stop a large % of the crowd invading the pitch with flares goading away fans and allowing someone to pick up a cornerflag run the full length of the pitch and hurl it into a crowd of opposition fans in full view of countless but inactive alleged stewards

Anyone know why Cookie got very animated on at least 2 occasions in the 1st half with what looked like a crowd control officer?

It'll be interesting to see how/if the NL management have any reaction to todays events which without argument bought the NLs credibility into disrepute

Probably nothing. Hoping it will all be forgotten about asap.

[Looker-on]

The NL will do nothing. Too busy collecting £10 a time off folk with blue badges who want to park at West Ham for the final.

[Search & Destroy]

By flares, are you referring to the smoke bombs?

[clarevoyant.]

James Rowe is dynamite, on 30 May 2022 - 06:48 AM, said:

By flares, are you referring to the smoke bombs?

Could be its not something I'm knowledgeable about not having any use for them.



Back to the sh..housery. An interesting extract from their message board by some deep thinker 'Griff79'
"However the div wearing the Villa shirt who threw the corner at away fans should be looking at a lengthy ban also the organised running onto the pitch by staff/management was a little cringe."

So the hierarchy encouraged a pitch invasion f... me didn't they realise the potential outcome with what's happened in the last few weeks ie someone losing an eye to some hastily propelled corner flag. What a complete set of morons. I'll finish with a quote re solihull I've used for 3-4 years "a club rotten from the top"

[CFC91]

clarevoyant., on 30 May 2022 - 07:52 AM, said:

Could be its not something I'm knowledgeable about not having any use for them.



Back to the sh..housery. An interesting extract from their message board by some deep thinker 'Griff79'
"However the div wearing the Villa shirt who threw the corner at away fans should be looking at a lengthy ban also the organised running onto the pitch by staff/management was a little cringe."

So the hierarchy encouraged a pitch invasion f... me didn't they realise the potential outcome with what's happened in the last few weeks ie someone losing an eye to some hastily propelled corner flag. What a complete set of morons. I'll finish with a quote re solihull I've used for 3-4 years "a club rotten from the top"

It was definitely pre planned/arranged. They absolutely peppered the front of the away end with stewards/police but not a sole around any of the home ends. The plan was definitely, let the home fans come onto the pitch and keep the away fans from coming off it. **** up in a brewery springs to mind, but after the fiasco with the tickets it doesn't suprise me one bit.

There's plenty of footy of the lad launching the corner flag like a missile flying about so no doubt he will be getting a visit fairly soon.

[gordon_brittas]

I hate Grimsby but I absolutely hope they smash these set of w*nkers next weekend.

Hope Cookie builds a side next season which thrashes this outfit which in reality have less fans than Matlock.

[Westbars Spireite]

They’ll need to grow up and act more professionally if they go up. Staveley have a better set up than West Midlands Airport Overflow Car Park FC.

[JonB]

The police guy who deals with football things was on it after the game.

Spireites Police @SpireitesPolice
Anyone with any footage of the male in the Villa shirt who decided to launch the corner flag into the way end following the game, please send me the footage.

He also asked if anyone was hit by it which thankfully doesnt appear to have happened. Someone jokingly asked if they didnt have CCTV and he confirmed they dont hence why he was after any fan footage.

[clarevoyant.]

JonB, on 30 May 2022 - 08:44 AM, said:

The police guy who deals with football things was on it after the game.

Spireites Police @SpireitesPolice
Anyone with any footage of the male in the Villa shirt who decided to launch the corner flag into the way end following the game, please send me the footage.

He also asked if anyone was hit by it which thankfully doesnt appear to have happened. Someone jokingly asked if they didnt have CCTV and he confirmed they dont hence why he was after any fan footage.

Good.
They also want to be looking at whose responsible for the root cause ie if the pitch invasion hadnt been encouraged then away fans wouldn't have been put in danger relying on luck(bad aim) to avoid injury.

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[Siberian Spireite]

CFC91, on 30 May 2022 - 08:30 AM, said:

It was definitely pre planned/arranged. They absolutely peppered the front of the away end with stewards/police but not a sole around any of the home ends.

Yes, that did seem a bit fishy.

[Jbspire]

The linesman was almost in the centre circle when the ref blew the final whistle so obviously knew what was coming

[spireitetoo]

Apparently (I can't confirm as I was there) there was 1 of the solihull players on the pitch with a smoke bomb going off in his hand shown on tv, surely that will be looked into??

[clarevoyant.]

spireitetoo, on 30 May 2022 - 10:20 AM, said:

Apparently (I can't confirm as I was there) there was 1 of the solihull players on the pitch with a smoke bomb going off in his hand shown on tv, surely that will be looked into??

Correct. He must have known it was safe too hold like the stewards were confident to pick them up. Why would they be so confident if they thought some scroat had bought them. The evidence does imply they were provided by the club.
Is encouraging the throwing of flares/smoke bombs and also encouraging pitch invasions by the club within the spirit of the game?

If this is the case they are actively encouraging public order offences.

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[DIFH]

Biggest game ever for them, we have to expect the young lads to. Act daft copying other fans.

[clarevoyant.]

DIFH, on 30 May 2022 - 10:48 AM, said:

Biggest game ever for them, we have to expect the young lads to. Act daft copying other fans.

True but not an excuse to replicate one
of Dr Livingstones altercations with locals in his quest to find the source of the Nile.
If you could anticipate so should the clubs Safety Officer.

No excuse.

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[mr. smith]

clarevoyant., on 30 May 2022 - 10:47 AM, said:

Correct. He must have known it was safe too hold like the stewards were confident to pick them up. Why would they be so confident if they thought some scroat had bought them. The evidence does imply they were provided by the club.
Is encouraging the throwing of flares/smoke bombs and also encouraging pitch invasions by the club within the spirit of the game?

If this is the case they are actively encouraging public order offences.

that is a bit of a leap.
the stewards I saw pick the smoke bombs up had something similar to welding gloves on & sand buckets to put them in. something our group often comment on when one is thrown on a pitch & the stewards dither about like its an uxb.

the pitch invasion was always going to happen & Id say there weren't enough stewards to stop everybody coming on so they prioritised stopping us getting on the pitch as well & the carnage that would have ensued.

the villa Zulu got 2hatted outside & will be getting a knock at some point. no cctv in the ground is unbelievable in this day & age.

this is no way defending smfc as they are the worst organised club ive ever been to inc fa cup games. harrow had more idea how to organise the match day.
& if theres any justice itll disappear back from whence they came.

[Siberian Spireite]

clarevoyant., on 30 May 2022 - 11:02 AM, said:

True but not an excuse to replicate one
of Dr Livingstones altercations with locals in his quest to find the source of the Nile.
If you could anticipate so should the clubs Safety Officer.

No excuse.

"Dr Livingstone, I presume from the Villa shirt and the corner post?"