[CFC91]

Anybody that can’t get fit has to go - Oyeleke, Rowe, Hollis, Croll etc. As good as they might be we can’t end up in the same situation we are in this year with key players out all year.

Mandeville would go for me too, good on the eye but contributes very little

[Valley Blues]

CFC91, on 29 May 2022 - 05:59 PM, said:

Anybody that can’t get fit has to go - Oyeleke, Rowe, Hollis, Croll etc. As good as they might be we can’t end up in the same situation we are in this year with key players out all year.

Mandeville would go for me too, good on the eye but contributes very little

Hollis is an interesting one, injury wise.

I was chatting to him a couple of weeks ago and he was saying this is his first long-term injury in his career.

He was playing really well prior to his injury and hasn’t got a poor history of injuries.

Not saying he should be retained but I’m not sure he falls into the Croll and Oyeleke bracket with injury risk.

[Cum on u blues]

Too many players without any eye for goal even if they deserve to stay on effort alone: if we’re talking about currently fit players then exclude King from the equation. How many goals have they scored between them this season against chances presented ?


Big gap in between I’m afraid to say which needs to be fixed before we start the next campaign even if key players are back

Maybe more importantly PC doesn’t seem to think the basis of success is a solid back 4. In my opinion this is where he should start rethinking but on previous form I doubt it. He doesn’t seem to be able to count that far….

[mr. smith]

Cum on u blues, on 29 May 2022 - 06:19 PM, said:

Too many players without any eye for goal even if they deserve to stay on effort alone: if we’re talking about currently fit players then exclude King from the equation. How many goals have they scored between them this season against chances presented ?


Big gap in between I’m afraid to say which needs to be fixed before we start the next campaign even if key players are back

Maybe more importantly PC doesn’t seem to think the basis of success is a solid back 4. In my opinion this is where he should start rethinking but on previous form I doubt it. He doesn’t seem to be able to count that far….

darikwa, hird, evatt, cooper, talbot.
yep pretty shoddy defensively last time.

[1978blue]

My retained list would be :-
Carline
Rowe (if good news about his condition)
Clarke
Williams
Tshimanga
King
Croll
Khan
Whittle

Depending on a good pre season:-
Asante

The rest for me not good enough if we are going for the title , obviously some not mentioned will be under contract so we will probably be stuck with them for another season. Cook needs to work his magic now and build a team to get us back into the league. We definitely need more height and more pace in the side and we need more winners and fighters , I feel we get bullied a lot especially against teams like Solihull etc. COYB.🙂

[TheSpireite1866]

gordon_brittas, on 29 May 2022 - 05:09 PM, said:

My biggest worry is that Tschimanga will be sold if a sizeable offer comes in. Lots of talk of Stockport coming in with an offer in the close season. I know they enquired for him in January and it was turned down, but they will come again I fear.

Enquired about him 😂 we rejected approaches of 650k from other clubs ffs,Stockport cannot afford Kabongo no matter how big and rich a club they think they are.

[1978blue]

TheSpireite1866, on 29 May 2022 - 06:58 PM, said:

Enquired about him 😂 we rejected approaches of 650k from other clubs ffs,Stockport cannot afford Kabongo no matter how big and rich a club they think they are.

I was told at the AGM that he isn't going for anything less than 1m.

[Cum on u blues]

mr. smith said:

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darikwa, hird, evatt, cooper, talbot.
yep pretty shoddy defensively last time.

…so why hasn’t he used the system for half the season when we’ve had obvious frailties ?

[Goku]

Edit: not today Satan

This post has been edited by Goku: 29 May 2022 - 07:43 PM

[dim view]

1978blue, on 29 May 2022 - 06:55 PM, said:

My retained list would be :-
Carline
Rowe (if good news about his condition)
Clarke
Williams
Tshimanga
King
Croll
Khan
Whittle

Depending on a good pre season:-
Asante

The rest for me not good enough if we are going for the title .....

which teams have a better goalie than Loach?

[Piemuncher]

Loach has been pretty good recently, I’d keep him.

[Fit as a Nelson]

Goku, on 29 May 2022 - 07:17 PM, said:

Edit: not today Satan

😂😂😂

[1978blue]

dim view, on 29 May 2022 - 07:30 PM, said:

which teams have a better goalie than Loach?

Loach for me is a good shot stopper but doesn't command is area and he gives me the jitters everytime a ball is in the air. For the size of the bloke he should be taking everything in the air . Just my opinion of course.

[DMU Blue]

1978blue, on 29 May 2022 - 07:45 PM, said:

Loach for me is a good shot stopper but doesn't command is area and he gives me the jitters everytime a ball is in the air. For the size of the bloke he should be taking everything in the air . Just my opinion of course.

If he was both of those things he’d be playing much higher than the National League

[dim view]

1978blue, on 29 May 2022 - 07:45 PM, said:

Loach for me is a good shot stopper but doesn't command is area and he gives me the jitters everytime a ball is in the air. For the size of the bloke he should be taking everything in the air . Just my opinion of course.

You've not answered my question.

Good discussion post though.

Another question is.....
How can you possibly conclude that Croll is a better or more reliable player than Gunning?

[dtp]

born in 1866, on 29 May 2022 - 04:20 PM, said:

Regardless of their contracts, as you can transfer list them or renew them.
What is your retained list for next season?
I'll start.
Hollis
Croll
Grimes
King
Oyeleke
Khan
Kabby
Clarke
Whittle
Mandeville
Carline
Rowe

Dons tin hat

Why would you retain a player who hasn't kicked a ball for us all season and you don't know to what level of fitness he will be next season?

We have been blighted by injuries all season yet you have included a number of players who are injury prone.

I believe we should be looking at a smaller squad full of players able to start next season 100% fit and not having a regular injury record on their CV. Naturally, we have injured players already under contract and I would be prepared to honour their agreements as it can be quite expensive to move them on.

[dtp]

s42blue, on 29 May 2022 - 05:15 PM, said:

Anonymous is harsh 😂…wasn’t allowed to dictate today. Good for this level.

Thought he was ok today, not anonymous, but didn't impose himself, but nor did he get much support.

[1978blue]

dim view, on 29 May 2022 - 08:13 PM, said:

You've not answered my question.

Good discussion post though.

Another question is.....
How can you possibly conclude that Croll is a better or more reliable player than Gunning?

I personally preferred Grant Smith as goalkeeper having watched all his games albeit via the streams. Same with Croll and Gunning I have seen all their games, I do actually like Gunning and think he is a good leader but I feel Croll would be more suited to Cooks type of play , being as they've both been injured if I had to choose it would be Croll. Again my opinion!

[hilly81]

1978blue, on 29 May 2022 - 08:25 PM, said:

I personally preferred Grant Smith as goalkeeper having watched all his games albeit via the streams. Same with Croll and Gunning I have seen all their games, I do actually like Gunning and think he is a good leader but I feel Croll would be more suited to Cooks type of play , being as they've both been injured if I had to choose it would be Croll. Again my opinion!

Croll is our best centre back and it’s not even close.

[stainlessstephen]

Suggest Cook (as suggested elsewhere) might want to look at the League of Ireland.

Ed McGinty, Nando Pijnaker, Aidan Keena from Sligo Rovers might be a good start...