[azul]

mr. smith, on 08 May 2022 - 01:13 PM, said:

cookies either signed a contract or he hasnt & if he has whats the length? cant see the problem with the club answering that.

It is completely pointless about the way the Trust are ambiguous about the length of contract. All it does is fuel rumour and dissent and in the end it wouldn’t really matter if he has signed a contract. He’d leave if he wants to and any compensation would be minimal.

[Sammy Spireite]

azul, on 08 May 2022 - 01:30 PM, said:

It is completely pointless about the way the Trust are ambiguous about the length of contract. All it does is fuel rumour and dissent and in the end it wouldn’t really matter if he has signed a contract. He’d leave if he wants to and any compensation would be minimal.

The board went on record as saying he’d not signed a short term deal, so should he leave in the summer without a compo payment being made then there will be plenty of egg on plenty of faces!

For me, the only reason they wouldn’t announce the length is if it is short term or has a “league club” release clause in it, which based on his stock when he joined you would think would be sooner rather than later be triggered. Hi stock will have dropped slightly during his record here but he’ll still get a L1 job.

This post has been edited by Sammy Spireite: 08 May 2022 - 02:52 PM

[azul]

Sammy Spireite, on 08 May 2022 - 02:51 PM, said:

The board went on record as saying he’d not signed a short term deal, so should he leave in the summer without a compo payment being made then there will be plenty of egg on plenty of faces!

For me, the only reason they wouldn’t announce the length is if it is short term or has a “league club” release clause in it, which based on his stock when he joined you would think would be sooner rather than later be triggered. Hi stock will have dropped slightly during his record here but he’ll still get a L1 job.

I have listened to interviews, the ‘we are sailing’ and ‘sky is blue’ podcasts and I’m still no wiser to whether he has a contract or not and whether it really is a long term appointment although the Trust did suggest he wants a long term project, which frankly I’m a bit sceptical about.

He claims he has turned down L1/L2 contracts before joining us but it depends who they are, he has been canny is the past with his choices. There’s plenty of basket cases around in higher divisions and we weren’t 3 months ago. I still think compo at this level is neither here nor there.

[Westbars Spireite]

Sammy Spireite, on 08 May 2022 - 02:51 PM, said:

The board went on record as saying he’d not signed a short term deal, so should he leave in the summer without a compo payment being made then there will be plenty of egg on plenty of faces!

For me, the only reason they wouldn’t announce the length is if it is short term or has a “league club” release clause in it, which based on his stock when he joined you would think would be sooner rather than later be triggered. Hi stock will have dropped slightly during his record here but he’ll still get a L1 job.

Taken on face value that could mean he doesn't have one at all.

[Trigger]

Westbars Spireite, on 08 May 2022 - 03:09 PM, said:

Taken on face value that could mean he doesn't have one at all.

Reading in to the comment about "not wanting to leave Chesterfield without a manager", could that mean we have someone lined up to take over in the summer that didn't want to be disloyal to his current employers?

Would make the Gary Roberts appointment odd though

[azul]

Westbars Spireite, on 08 May 2022 - 03:09 PM, said:

Taken on face value that could mean he doesn't have one at all.

That would be my take.

I suppose it has some advantage as we aren’t tied into an expensive contract. PC would leave anyway if he fancied it, irrespective of contract length.

The downside is the highly visible lack of continuity and I guess that is where Webb comes in. I see no other reason for him to be here otherwise.

This post has been edited by azul: 08 May 2022 - 03:58 PM

[Westbars Spireite]

I'm pretty sure he'll wish he hadn't as it stands.

[60s 70s Spireite]

metallilad, on 08 May 2022 - 12:49 PM, said:

"We pay our money every season, without us where would they be" - Does that mean you demand to know how Tesco run their business?
Your a customer at every business you go to, if they choose to tell you how funds are invested then fair enough but ultimately we are all customers of the club and the Trust choose to divulge what they want, when they want and how they want. Having said that though, you say that your a shareholder, as a shareholder I believe that you or any other shareholder has a right to ask questions and get answers.

Football is completely different. And that’s the conclusion of the fan led review of football governance. More input from supporters is the recommendation- even a shadow board.
Moreover the football club is owned by a local charity, which we all have an interest in when it comes to outcomes and achievements.

[Wooden Spoon]

metallilad, on 08 May 2022 - 08:58 AM, said:

That's true. But it was more the point that as supporters we had an opportunity and didn't take it, but some still demand to know things that don't concern them.

Allen wouldn’t have sold the club to them. He wanted the trust to take over - a penniless charity that he fought wouldn’t be able to run and finance the club

[dim view]

Trigger, on 08 May 2022 - 03:26 PM, said:

Reading in to the comment about "not wanting to leave Chesterfield without a manager", could that mean we have someone lined up to take over in the summer that didn't want to be disloyal to his current employers?

I know nowt but I think that's a good guess. It would explain the lack of signings and the perceived lack of affinity between players and manager. It's like they know summat.

[DIFH]

Trigger, on 08 May 2022 - 03:26 PM, said:

Reading in to the comment about "not wanting to leave Chesterfield without a manager", could that mean we have someone lined up to take over in the summer that didn't want to be disloyal to his current employers?

Would make the Gary Roberts appointment odd though

Halifax guy ? But what happens if they go up.

[metallilad]

Trigger, on 08 May 2022 - 03:26 PM, said:

Reading in to the comment about "not wanting to leave Chesterfield without a manager", could that mean we have someone lined up to take over in the summer that didn't want to be disloyal to his current employers?

Would make the Gary Roberts appointment odd though

You could just be overthinking it.

[jack bauer]

metallilad, on 08 May 2022 - 08:46 AM, said:

But that's a chance you take with any manager. The Trust are trying to build stability within the club, it's only the supporters that want the manager sacked because we don't win every match.
Why do supporters demand to know stuff? It doesn't make the slightest bit of difference to the seat you sit in when watching matches, it doesn't make your halftime drink any sweeter or your pie filling anymore fuller. As supporters we had an opportunity through Zorro to purchase the club from Dave Allen but when push come to shove the funds weren't put in. If they were and we found that we owned a share in the club then people would have had a right to have their questions answered but it didn't happen so it's not any of our business to judge how the Trust are handling their business.

exactly right, every managerial appointment carries a level of risk, our last half a dozen appointments should testify to that fact but you can't not appoint someone for fear it may go wrong, or not back them because it may go wrong.

this anti-cook drive is so sad, i read this board and see people almost seeming to enjoy it going badly, what is that all about?

[Trigger]

metallilad, on 08 May 2022 - 07:53 PM, said:

You could just be overthinking it.

I do do that over most things tbf

[azul]

So it is confirmed this Ashley Kirk has been appointed as a director.

At least that has brought one of the rumours on this thread into disrepute, i.e. no Cook no investment, featured on page one of this thread.

[Phil V 72]

On Cook’s contract, is it the case that contract details are confidential between employer and employee? Maybe they agreed to keep details between themselves.

Also I’d have to relisten but I think Daryl mentioned it on the sky is blue podcast that he knew the contract length but couldn’t say. He also said it wasn’t a short term contract.

[jack bauer]

Phil V 72, on 09 May 2022 - 11:13 AM, said:

On Cook’s contract, is it the case that contract details are confidential between employer and employee? Maybe they agreed to keep details between themselves.

Also I’d have to relisten but I think Daryl mentioned it on the sky is blue podcast that he knew the contract length but couldn’t say. He also said it wasn’t a short term contract.

rolling? whatever they are anyway.

question to anti-cook crew, would you get behind him more if details on contract length were revealed and it were revealed it is a long term vision/project/commitment by all concerned?

[LondonBlue]

Phil V 72, on 09 May 2022 - 11:13 AM, said:

On Cook’s contract, is it the case that contract details are confidential between employer and employee? Maybe they agreed to keep details between themselves.

Also I’d have to relisten but I think Daryl mentioned it on the sky is blue podcast that he knew the contract length but couldn’t say. He also said it wasn’t a short term contract.

Yeah, it was me that asked that question and Daryl in effect said he couldn’t say and then in pretty much other words confirmed it was over 2 years - or at least that’s what I took from the following discussion.

[Tha Knows...]

Maybe 2.5 years, so as not to end mid way thru season

[Nitrous Oxide]

Let's see how the summer recruitment goes and how they perform over the first 10 games, I think that's how it goes. It won't be easy and no doubt we won't start like this season who knows. Onwards and upwards eh.