[Westbars Spireite]

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[calvin plummers socks]

Misnomer, on 25 November 2021 - 09:21 AM, said:

I'll take your mum, instead...up the council.

I don’t even know what that means

[s42blue]

Misnomer, on 25 November 2021 - 09:21 AM, said:

I'll take your mum, instead...up the council.

Can we get this garbage removed please? Find myself scrolling past pages of diatribe and insults.

[Wooden Spoon]

Misnomer, on 25 November 2021 - 07:39 AM, said:

It's the avoidance of the nuances that I enjoy; the way you just steamroller in (remember those days?) and form your own perspective. You can call it bigotry; well, you already have, but you are just using language that suits your narrative.

Below is definition of the word tribe. This is the meaning I was clearly inferring, but you've decided to twist it into yet another race baiting issue, whilst completely missing the point, AGAIN.

Tribe: a group or class of people with strong common traits, values, or interests:

The men within these gangs, the men who traffic these girls to various locations throughout the UK, they all have the same disgusting traits, values and interests... don't you think? They are paedophiles, rapists and Muslim.

Don't recall seeing anything from you about the abhorrent treatment of the teacher from Batley 🤔 weird, no? Hundreds of fellow Muslims coming in from far and wide, wanting him not only for him to lose his job and livelihood, but also to physically hurt him for being 'blasphemous'. A man now without a job, who's been forced to live in hiding.

Rob makes a very good point: let's protest outside mosques to get this issue the serious attention it deserves. Can you imagine that...folk like you ✊🏻 fanning the flames, immediately branding concerned members of the local community as bigoted racists.

Not really sure I'd class that as a properly balanced reaction. Then again, with your past transgressions, not sure you could refer to yourself as 'balanced'; eh, punchy.

It was a slightly tongue in cheek reply to COS suggestion we do something about the culture and attitude of a proportion of Muslim men who see women as second class citizens and non Muslim women as 3rd class people to be used and traded

[azul]

Mr Mercury, on 24 November 2021 - 09:48 PM, said:

So what’s, your/Labours alternative?

On the macro level, re-instate the foreign aid budget, encourage other countries to do more in this area if they aren’t already, think twice about bombing countries, stop enabling, supporting, facilitating proxy wars.

You know a kind of levelling up exercise rather than levelling flat might help at the macro level. Not an expert on the more detailed aspects on the asylum seeking situation, so I can’t help you on the fine print.

[calvin plummers socks]

Misnomer, on 24 November 2021 - 10:14 PM, said:

I actually lol at that 👋🏻👋🏻👋🏻


(Although, one, I don't look like her; two, she's British Pakistani Muslim.... don't forget that 👀).

Are you that stupid???? She’s neither - what a tool

Mr Mercury, on 24 November 2021 - 10:06 PM, said:

What do you do about opposition to my views other than post silly little shrugs and one line replies?
Most on here now, and I dare say those that agree in principle with your views, recognise you as little more than a one line reply troll unable to offer alternative views and arguments.
But if the cap fits….🤷‍♂️

One line reply troll - I like that 😂
Beats spouting endless right wing nasty BS though I guess but each to his/her own

[Mr Mercury]

calvin plummers socks, on 25 November 2021 - 02:21 PM, said:

Are you that stupid???? She’s neither - what a tool



One line reply troll - I like that 😂
Beats spouting endless right wing nasty BS though I guess but each to his/her own

Can u direct me to where I’ve posted anything nasty?

[The Earl of Chesterfield]

Misnomer, on 25 November 2021 - 07:39 AM, said:

It's the avoidance of the nuances that I enjoy; the way you just steamroller in (remember those days?) and form your own perspective. You can call it bigotry; well, you already have, but you are just using language that suits your narrative.

Below is definition of the word tribe. This is the meaning I was clearly inferring, but you've decided to twist it into yet another race baiting issue, whilst completely missing the point, AGAIN.

Tribe: a group or class of people with strong common traits, values, or interests:

The men within these gangs, the men who traffic these girls to various locations throughout the UK, they all have the same disgusting traits, values and interests... don't you think? They are paedophiles, rapists and Muslim.

Don't recall seeing anything from you about the abhorrent treatment of the teacher from Batley 🤔 weird, no? Hundreds of fellow Muslims coming in from far and wide, wanting him not only for him to lose his job and livelihood, but also to physically hurt him for being 'blasphemous'. A man now without a job, who's been forced to live in hiding.

Rob makes a very good point: let's protest outside mosques to get this issue the serious attention it deserves. Can you imagine that...folk like you ✊🏻 fanning the flames, immediately branding concerned members of the local community as bigoted racists.

Not really sure I'd class that as a properly balanced reaction. Then again, with your past transgressions, not sure you could refer to yourself as 'balanced'; eh, punchy.

But here's the problem.

If your posts to this point had been punctuated by any semblence of intellectual "nuance", defending the use of a term like "tribe" in this context might stand up.

However your repeat use of racist language leaves balanced observers like myself with little choice but to assume the worst.

And casually dubbing the Home Secretary a Pakistani Muslim when she's the daughter of Ugandan Hindu migrants (who wouldn't have been allowed in under her rules, by the way)? Ignorant insults like the "council" thing? After meeting specific references to prejudice, hypocrisy and cowardice on the Rafiq thread with 'Y'mean you are!' style retorts befitting my twelve year old granddaughter?

Nah mate, any pretence of cerebral intercourse went down the flusher a long, long time ago.

Then what can only be described as an utterly irrelevent quasi-Islamophobic tirade about the teacher. Followed by an even more irate rant including silly fisty icons and desperate "folk like you" attempts to crowbar words into others' mouths.

Seriously, how can anyone of a measured mind consider yours' in any way credible contributions.

Wierdest of all, though? Asking if I remember "steamrollers".

Errr no, no I don't (anyone....?)...

[Wooden Spoon]

To be fair, the way that teacher has been hounded and treated is shameful

[Misnomer]

The Earl of Chesterfield, on 25 November 2021 - 07:53 PM, said:

But here's the problem.

If your posts to this point had been punctuated by any semblence of intellectual "nuance", defending the use of a term like "tribe" in this context might stand up.

However your repeat use of racist language leaves balanced observers like myself with little choice but to assume the worst.

And casually dubbing the Home Secretary a Pakistani Muslim when she's the daughter of Ugandan Hindu migrants (who wouldn't have been allowed in under her rules, by the way)? Ignorant insults like the "council" thing? After meeting specific references to prejudice, hypocrisy and cowardice on the Rafiq thread with 'Y'mean you are!' style retorts befitting my twelve year old granddaughter?

Nah mate, any pretence of cerebral intercourse went down the flusher a long, long time ago.

Then what can only be described as an utterly irrelevent quasi-Islamophobic tirade about the teacher. Followed by an even more irate rant including silly fisty icons and desperate "folk like you" attempts to crowbar words into others' mouths.

Seriously, how can anyone of a measured mind consider yours' in any way credible contributions.

Wierdest of all, though? Asking if I remember "steamrollers".

Errr no, no I don't (anyone....?)...

It stands up perfectly well; you just happen to be so desperate to jump onboard the race baiting train, you can't fathom a simple collective noun.

Repeat use of racist language? Where? Show me....

So I got Patel's ethnicity wrong; so what?

I think it's very relevant. Not really a tirade, though; was it. You did post a thing about it; why not?

As for the council comment; if Jimmy Carr would have used such a retort, I'm sure you would have been laughing. It was a joke....lighten up. Plus, if CPS wants to make snide remarks, he better remember that he's playing with the big boys and be prepared to receive similar in return.


Oh, still going down the mental illness route, as means to discredit anything I say 👍🏻

I do find it very interesting that you seem to believe you are right on every topic that you contribute to on this board. Your exaggerated sense of self-importance is truly mind-blowing, as is your astounding level of self-righteousness. In fact (two words), there's a touch of the grandiose narcissist about you. There's the district possiblity that you and the guy who you constantly parrot, James O'Brien, were separated at birth.

This post has been edited by Misnomer: 25 November 2021 - 08:37 PM

[The Earl of Chesterfield]

Wooden Spoon, on 25 November 2021 - 08:21 PM, said:

To be fair, the way that teacher has been hounded and treated is shameful

It is.

And fully deserves a discussion of it's own.

However trying to crowbar it into this discussion smacks of desperation.

But hey, it's from someone who bandies the 'P' word with gay abandon then cries 'Racist language? What racist language? Where?'...

[calvin plummers socks]

Misnomer, on 25 November 2021 - 08:31 PM, said:

It stands up perfectly well; you just happen to be so desperate to jump onboard the race baiting train, you can't fathom a simple collective noun.

Repeat use of racist language? Where? Show me....

So I got Patel's ethnicity wrong; so what?

I think it's very relevant. Not really a tirade, though; was it. You did post a thing about it; why not?

As for the council comment; if Jimmy Carr would have used such a retort, I'm sure you would have been laughing. It was a joke....lighten up. Plus, if CPS wants to make snide remarks, he better remember that he's playing with the big boys and be prepared to receive similar in return.


Oh, still going down the mental illness route, as means to discredit anything I say 👍🏻

I do find it very interesting that you seem to believe you are right on every topic that you contribute to on this board. Your exaggerated sense of self-importance is truly mind-blowing, as is your astounding level of self-righteousness. In fact (two words), there's a touch of the grandiose narcissist about you. There's the district possiblity that you and the guy who you constantly parrot, James O'Brien, were separated at birth.

Do you have to mention me on every post you btec Search and Destroy (at least he doesn’t try to make out he’s got an education)

[The Earl of Chesterfield]

Misnomer, on 25 November 2021 - 08:31 PM, said:

It stands up perfectly well; you just happen to be so desperate to jump onboard the race baiting train, you can't fathom a simple collective noun.

Repeat use of racist language? Where? Show me....

So I got Patel's ethnicity wrong; so what?

I think it's very relevant. Not really a tirade, though; was it. You did post a thing about it; why not?

As for the council comment; if Jimmy Carr would have used such a retort, I'm sure you would have been laughing. It was a joke....lighten up. Plus, if CPS wants to make snide remarks, he better remember that he's playing with the big boys and be prepared to receive similar in return.


Oh, still going down the mental illness route, as means to discredit anything I say 👍🏻

I do find it very interesting that you seem to believe you are right on every topic that you contribute to on this board. Your exaggerated sense of self-importance is truly mind-blowing, as is your astounding level of self-righteousness. In fact (two words), there's a touch of the grandiose narcissist about you. There's the district possiblity that you and the guy who you constantly parrot, James O'Brien, were separated at birth.

A bloke so super sensitive he takes exception to innocent terms such as "venting" or "personal prejudice" or even "over excited" over on the 'Rafiq' thread...

..now tells others to "lighten up" and boasts about being a "big boy".

And all that after several snidey accusations of folk being somehow 'tough'.

Your attempts at an Alf Garnett tribute turn may not be as subtle as 'S&D's', but they're certainly as entertaining...

PS: hey, thanks. Even beginning to be compared to a nationally popular and hugely influential radio presenter is quite a compliment...

[s42blue]

Misnomer, on 25 November 2021 - 08:31 PM, said:

It stands up perfectly well; you just happen to be so desperate to jump onboard the race baiting train, you can't fathom a simple collective noun.

Repeat use of racist language? Where? Show me....

So I got Patel's ethnicity wrong; so what?

I think it's very relevant. Not really a tirade, though; was it. You did post a thing about it; why not?

As for the council comment; if Jimmy Carr would have used such a retort, I'm sure you would have been laughing. It was a joke....lighten up. Plus, if CPS wants to make snide remarks, he better remember that he's playing with the big boys and be prepared to receive similar in return.


Oh, still going down the mental illness route, as means to discredit anything I say 👍🏻

I do find it very interesting that you seem to believe you are right on every topic that you contribute to on this board. Your exaggerated sense of self-importance is truly mind-blowing, as is your astounding level of self-righteousness. In fact (two words), there's a touch of the grandiose narcissist about you. There's the district possiblity that you and the guy who you constantly parrot, James O'Brien, were separated at birth.

Seriously? The big boys? Get over yourself. You’re debating on a NL message board. What with a readership of…? Not many and I’d imagine rapidly declining (personal section) . I’m no fan of CPS’s posts (no personal offence but one line troll does ring true! 😂) but move on past.

I’m no fan of EoCs politics, I’d agree even with the self righteous comment….but again move on. Debate on the issues and stop picking personal faults/issues. At least he rationally debates. As for “tribes” ….poor. Just poor. It might have been meant as a joke….but have some self awareness.

[Misnomer]

The Earl of Chesterfield, on 25 November 2021 - 09:19 PM, said:

A bloke so super sensitive he takes exception to innocent terms such as "venting" or "personal prejudice" or even "over excited" over on the 'Rafiq' thread...

..now tells others to "lighten up" and boasts about being a "big boy".

And all that after several snidey accusations of folk being somehow 'tough'.

Your attempts at an Alf Garnett tribute turn may not be as subtle as 'S&D's', but they're certainly as entertaining...

PS: hey, thanks. Even beginning to be compared to a nationally popular and hugely influential radio presenter is quite a compliment...

That's great...so, where's this 'repeated use of racist language'?

Yeah, he was certainly influential for Operation Midland; he sucked you right in.

https://www.spectato...-sex-abuse-lies

https://www.thetimes...-free-7kzzmckw9

https://brokenbottle...en-or-why-shame

Then there's this beauty: I remember it well.

https://www.conserva...erous-disgrace/


What a lovely bloke.

Which makes it quite odd that you froth at the mouth over my use of the word 'tribe', but not only do you come on here and parrot everything O'Brien says, you actually embrace being aligned with a man who perpetuated a disgusting and damaging myth and told the nation (that huge 5% station listening figure) that schoolchildren would die from Covid.

This post has been edited by Misnomer: 26 November 2021 - 11:01 AM

[Goku]

https://www.bbc.co.u...-leeds-59463276

This is sickening. Check the names too.

[spireitetoo]

Goku, on 29 November 2021 - 08:09 PM, said:

https://www.bbc.co.u...-leeds-59463276

This is sickening. Check the names too.

You would hope that the 3 women get the harshest of sentences, all 3 with same offences,... these 3 are utter trash.

[turrhall]

Misnomer, on 26 November 2021 - 10:18 AM, said:

That's great...so, where's this 'repeated use of racist language'?

Yeah, he was certainly influential for Operation Midland; he sucked you right in.

https://www.spectato...-sex-abuse-lies

https://www.thetimes...-free-7kzzmckw9

https://brokenbottle...en-or-why-shame

Then there's this beauty: I remember it well.

https://www.conserva...erous-disgrace/


What a lovely bloke.

Which makes it quite odd that you froth at the mouth over my use of the word 'tribe', but not only do you come on here and parrot everything O'Brien says, you actually embrace being aligned with a man who perpetuated a disgusting and damaging myth and told the nation (that huge 5% station listening figure) that schoolchildren would die from Covid.

I agree that JO'B is a blimey idiot. Surprised to see this extremely left wing blog referenced along with the other rags though (this one https://brokenbottle...en-or-why-shame). Just a rare treat, not surprising because the man should be criticised from all sides.

This post has been edited by turrhall: 29 November 2021 - 09:58 PM

[The Earl of Chesterfield]

turrhall, on 29 November 2021 - 09:55 PM, said:

I agree that JO'B is a blimey idiot. Surprised to see this extremely left wing blog referenced along with the other rags though (this one https://brokenbottle...en-or-why-shame). Just a rare treat, not surprising because the man should be criticised from all sides.

O'Brien's job is to provoke. From a leftist position in his case. Just as Ferrari provokes from a right wing position. Just as presenters throughout the media do the same. Political or sporting.

All that really matters to their bosses is numbers tuning in.

Bottom line is it's entertainment. None more so than when some half-wit bites the bait then finds themselves humiliated on a national stage.

Or get their knickers into knots on an obscure football forum, perhaps...

This post has been edited by The Earl of Chesterfield: 06 December 2021 - 09:03 AM

[turrhall]

The Earl of Chesterfield, on 06 December 2021 - 09:00 AM, said:

O'Brien's job is to provoke. From a leftist position in his case. Just as Ferrari provokes from a right wing position. Just as presenters throughout the media do the same. Political or sporting.

All that really matters to their bosses is numbers tuning in.

Bottom line is it's entertainment. None more so than when some half-wit bites the bait then finds themselves humiliated on a national stage.

Or get their knickers into knots on an obscure football forum, perhaps...

JO'B isn't of the left though - I think we've all said stupid things on this forum at times, I wouldn't say that you are immune to that either.