[dtp]

The Earl of Chesterfield, on 08 June 2020 - 05:38 PM, said:

It was actually the Fylde chairman quoted Dave, nowt to do with Allen.

Though you've gotta wonder which part of Town's demise convinced him Carson's summat to offer.

My guess?

Despite everything we're still seen as one of the bigger outfits, so it was the Club rather than any one individual invited.

As our friend 'Dim' says it'd be a positive gesture if someone else were to represent us, a member of the Trust perhaps.

However we need look no further than the cringeworthy 'chairman of Chesterfield' video to see how things work down there...

Do you not think that Haythornthwaite contacted the CFC regarding these discussions and it was decided by CFC that AC should be the representative at this time? I know they may be one of the same thing but I am not convinced AC's master has been totally kept in the dark.

I fully agree I would prefer that the CFC representative to be from the Trust but the fact of the matter is that at this point in time the Trust own nowt and have no say and, as such, cannot play a part. Obviously, if and when, they complete any takeover they can replace AC with their chosen one to be CFC's representative on this sub-committee but not until. Same goes for any other new owner.

[moondog]

dtp, on 08 June 2020 - 05:53 PM, said:

Do you not think that Haythornthwaite contacted the CFC regarding these discussions and it was decided by CFC that AC should be the representative at this time? I know they may be one of the same thing but I am not convinced AC's master has been totally kept in the dark.

I fully agree I would prefer that the CFC representative to be from the Trust but the fact of the matter is that at this point in time the Trust own nowt and have no say and, as such, cannot play a part. Obviously, if and when, they complete any takeover they can replace AC with their chosen one to be CFC's representative on this sub-committee but not until. Same goes for any other new owner.

This is correct also the Trust would not be accepted as a voice for the club by the National League until the deal is done.

Until then AC tells me he will continue to represent the owner in every way.

[Blue5]

moondog, on 08 June 2020 - 07:51 PM, said:

Until then AC tells me he will continue to represent the owner in every way.

Such undivided loyalty.

[dim view]

moondog, on 08 June 2020 - 07:51 PM, said:

This is correct also the Trust would not be accepted as a voice for the club by the National League until the deal is done.

Until then AC tells me he will continue to represent the owner in every way.

It doesn't say that the NL has asked the Fylde man to head a sub committee. In't it just an individual's commendable inititiative to form a pressure group? If it is official, can we see a copy of the objectives?

[The Earl of Chesterfield]

moondog, on 08 June 2020 - 07:51 PM, said:

This is correct also the Trust would not be accepted as a voice for the club by the National League until the deal is done.

Until then AC tells me he will continue to represent the owner in every way.

I'm sure there were long and tortuous discussions before Ash, reluctantly and ever-so altruistically, agreed to represent our football club.

We really aren't worthy...

[Westbars Spireite]

One day we'll perhaps find out what the unique bond Ashley and Dave is so we can all seek to replicate it in our own lives.

[moondog]

dim view, on 09 June 2020 - 07:04 AM, said:

It doesn't say that the NL has asked the Fylde man to head a sub committee. In't it just an individual's commendable inititiative to form a pressure group? If it is official, can we see a copy of the objectives?

True, I think the Fylde chairman has taken the initiative on that.

I don't know the objectives but do know the agenda was Salary Cap, Squad Size, Season Start Date and Insolvency Options.

The other invited clubs were Maidstone, Woking, Dagenham & Redbridge , Sutton, Ebbsfleet and Borehamwood.

[moondog]

moondog, on 06 June 2020 - 09:57 PM, said:

As Sky plan to show 15 EFL play off games it appears the decision to at least hold them accross all 3 EFL divisions has been made. Hope yet for the National League teams even though I suspect the outcome of the recent vote was no

https://www.efl.com/...-to-sky-sports/

It's been confirmed there will be play offs in league one and two.

The clubs meet again this afternoon to decide if to resume playing or go straight to them (four teams as per current rules) where unweighted points per game has been decided to determine the league positions.

[Looker-on]

moondog, on 09 June 2020 - 12:54 PM, said:

True, I think the Fylde chairman has taken the initiative on that.

I don't know the objectives but do know the agenda was Salary Cap, Squad Size, Season Start Date and Insolvency Options.

The other invited clubs were Maidstone, Woking, Dagenham & Redbridge , Sutton, Ebbsfleet and Borehamwood.

Is that the first seven clubs to pick up the phone, or are we all related in some way? Has the Fylde man just picked the seven others he thinks most likely to agree with him? I think the first question to address might be why the Fylde chairman has abandoned his apparent adherence to the Salford/Fleetwood model of pumping money in to buy promotion. Given that he seems to want to talk about good financial governance and control, it seems odd to be inviting us!

[JonB]

League 2 voted to can the season as it stands. Means that Swindon Town have been confirmed as Champions with Crewe Alexandra 2nd and Plymouth third. Cheltenham Town, Exeter City, Colchester United and Northampton Town in the play offs.

They say this about who will be relegated :-

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Under the proposals agreed by Clubs, the 24th placed Club in the League Two will be relegated to the National League provided the Board receives the necessary assurances that the National League will start Season 2020/21 (i.e. the relegated Club in League Two has somewhere to play). Due to ongoing disciplinary matters, the final placings cannot yet be confirmed.

Ian Dennis @Iandennisbbc 43s
National League Board will meet tomorrow afternoon. EFL outcome will influence their approach with a view of communicating news to clubs before the end of the week.

[JonB]

Looks like the "ongoing disciplinary matters" may not just be at the bottom of the table in terms of Macclesfield and their financial issues but also the top of the table and Swindon. Not sure if this means the stuff relating to Gareth Barry investing or not.

[dim view]

moondog, on 09 June 2020 - 12:54 PM, said:

True, I think the Fylde chairman has taken the initiative on that.

I don't know the objectives but do know the agenda was Salary Cap, Squad Size, Season Start Date and Insolvency Options.

The other invited clubs were Maidstone, Woking, Dagenham & Redbridge , Sutton, Ebbsfleet and Borehamwood.

very interesting, ta.

Your use of the past tense suggests the meeting has taken place. Is our delegate reporting back or has he signed a non disclosure agreement?

[moondog]

dim view, on 09 June 2020 - 02:35 PM, said:

very interesting, ta.

Your use of the past tense suggests the meeting has taken place. Is our delegate reporting back or has he signed a non disclosure agreement?

I expect he'll cover any relevant detail should he feel it appropriate in his next update but if he volunteers anything in the meantime I'll post it up.


You might be interested in Gregor Roberton's article earlier in the week with the Dagenham MD which makes passing reference to the meeting (bottom part of article after the stuff about Grimsby)

https://www.thetimes...covid-ffnfr8fnk

[JonB]

League 1 follows the lead of League 2 in ending the season with things sorted on PPG, Wycombe the big winners jumping from 8th to 3rd and will be in the play offs.

[60s 70s Spireite]

JonB, on 09 June 2020 - 03:10 PM, said:

League 1 follows the lead of League 2 in ending the season with things sorted on PPG, Wycombe the big winners jumping from 8th to 3rd and will be in the play offs.

Our old foe Rotherham promoted to the Championship again. Sticks in the craw and not just a bit.

[clarevoyant.]

60s 70s Spireite, on 09 June 2020 - 05:23 PM, said:

Our old foe Rotherham promoted to the Championship again. Sticks in the craw and not just a bit.

Goes to show what you can do with a new ground and a chairman with that very rare commodity, Yorkshire aptitude.

[Blue5]

Looker-on, on 09 June 2020 - 02:01 PM, said:

Is that the first seven clubs to pick up the phone, or are we all related in some way? Has the Fylde man just picked the seven others he thinks most likely to agree with him? I think the first question to address might be why the Fylde chairman has abandoned his apparent adherence to the Salford/Fleetwood model of pumping money in to buy promotion. Given that he seems to want to talk about good financial governance and control, it seems odd to be inviting us!

If he is calling here, he must like our model of losing cash and operating in the gutter.

This post has been edited by Blue5: 09 June 2020 - 06:21 PM

[The Earl of Chesterfield]

Looker-on, on 09 June 2020 - 02:01 PM, said:

Is that the first seven clubs to pick up the phone, or are we all related in some way? Has the Fylde man just picked the seven others he thinks most likely to agree with him? I think the first question to address might be why the Fylde chairman has abandoned his apparent adherence to the Salford/Fleetwood model of pumping money in to buy promotion. Given that he seems to want to talk about good financial governance and control, it seems odd to be inviting us!

This.

60s 70s Spireite, on 09 June 2020 - 05:23 PM, said:

Our old foe Rotherham promoted to the Championship again. Sticks in the craw and not just a bit.

And this.

Blue5, on 09 June 2020 - 06:18 PM, said:

If he is calling here, he must like our model of losing cash and operating in the gutter.

And this most of all.

[DerbySpireite59]

moondog, on 09 June 2020 - 12:54 PM, said:

True, I think the Fylde chairman has taken the initiative on that.

I don't know the objectives but do know the agenda was Salary Cap, Squad Size, Season Start Date and Insolvency Options.

The other invited clubs were Maidstone, Woking, Dagenham & Redbridge , Sutton, Ebbsfleet and Borehamwood.

Aren't Fylde, Ebbsfleet and Maidstone still vulnerable to relegation? As well we might be, if play offs to stay up are the order of the day?
Aren't Woking potential for play offs for promotion?

[JonB]

Are they allowed within league rules to implement relegation play offs? They are not part of the season currently and probably mean a change to the rules for them to be used even on an ad-hoc basis like this. With the EFL having made a decision i can see them following the lead of League 1 and 2 where its PPG as things stand now then do the promotion play offs with the teams that PPG puts in the play off places.

They've taken this long without really getting anywhere so i cant see them wanting to mess about organising more games to be played than they really have to.