[johnd51]

Playing behind closed doors is pointless. Football is a spectator sport despite all the money thrown at it by the tv companies. If it can't be watched safely don't have it.

[frearsghost]

johnd51, on 02 May 2020 - 11:38 PM, said:

Playing behind closed doors is pointless. Football is a spectator sport despite all the money thrown at it by the tv companies. If it can't be watched safely don't have it.

I don't think it can be played in safety either. It's a close contact sport and players will be all over each other exhaling who knows what. Has anyone asked the players, many of whom have families what they think? Are they under pressure to play? The only common sense seems to be coming from the public whom, according to two polls I've heard on the radio, are not in favour. This virus kills and even just one more death from this risky enterprise is a step too far.

This post has been edited by frearsghost: 03 May 2020 - 01:42 PM

[Westbars Spireite]

frearsghost, on 03 May 2020 - 01:40 PM, said:

I don't think it can be played in safety either. It's a close contact sport and players will be all over each other exhaling who knows what. Has anyone asked the players, many of whom have families what they think? Are they under pressure to play? The only common sense seems to be coming from the public whom, according to two polls I've heard on the radio, are not in favour. This virus kills and even just one more death from this risky enterprise is a step too far.

Pressure will be mounting on Premier League players, some of whom are back in training of sorts next week I’ve seen reported. We know why this is and the reasons aren’t sporting ones whatever certain people might try and claim. They might be extraordinarily well paid for what they do but is that justification enough to think they should just get on with it? Even if games can be played in some ‘clean’ environment behind closed doors there will still be hundreds of support staff required to ensure games are played and broadcast.

[dtp]

Westbars Spireite, on 03 May 2020 - 02:37 PM, said:

Pressure will be mounting on Premier League players, some of whom are back in training of sorts next week I’ve seen reported. We know why this is and the reasons aren’t sporting ones whatever certain people might try and claim. They might be extraordinarily well paid for what they do but is that justification enough to think they should just get on with it? Even if games can be played in some ‘clean’ environment behind closed doors there will still be hundreds of support staff required to ensure games are played and broadcast.

I agree. The premiership should be setting an example and making the decisions to protect players and staff not trying to work out a way round the situation to improve it's own bloated finances. Even if they come up with a solution to satisfy their own greed they will not satisfy everybody in their own fold with that solution.

If the premiership actually start making decisions about what's best for football as a whole it might mean that they have to change their spots and accept that without football there could be no premiership but without the premiership there could be football.

[Tha Knows...]

frearsghost, on 03 May 2020 - 01:40 PM, said:

I don't think it can be played in safety either. It's a close contact sport and players will be all over each other exhaling who knows what. Has anyone asked the players, many of whom have families what they think? Are they under pressure to play? The only common sense seems to be coming from the public whom, according to two polls I've heard on the radio, are not in favour. This virus kills and even just one more death from this risky enterprise is a step too far.

It disgusts me. It really does. I joked earlier that players will not be allowed to go within 2 metres of each other and will be red carded for removing face mask after scoring. If they play I hope its true!

[Valley Blues]

frearsghost, on 03 May 2020 - 01:40 PM, said:

I don't think it can be played in safety either. It's a close contact sport and players will be all over each other exhaling who knows what. Has anyone asked the players, many of whom have families what they think? Are they under pressure to play? The only common sense seems to be coming from the public whom, according to two polls I've heard on the radio, are not in favour. This virus kills and even just one more death from this risky enterprise is a step too far.

My work is non essential.
I’m not in favour of being at work, but no one asked me what I thought.
I have a family.
I suppose I’m under pressure to go to work as furloughing isn’t an option so I would have to self isolate on SSP, which I can’t afford to do.
I would think that the top flight premier league players will be protected and shielded from the virus far better than I am.
It’s not right at all but let’s not forget millions of workers in the UK have been running the gauntlet for weeks.

This post has been edited by Valley Blues: 03 May 2020 - 07:33 PM

[dim view]

moondog, on 02 May 2020 - 12:12 PM, said:

No news as yet but all the votes had to be in yesterday by noon so they will know what the clubs think

Sorry if I've missed summat on other threads, but have you heard of any NL update yet please?

We now face the farce of the PL clubs playing a huge percentage of meaningless games to finish the season if relegation is scrapped.

Norwich Manager : 'Is that the FA?'
FA : 'yes'
Norwich Manager : 'We are fielding our reserves for all the matches'
FA : 'You can't. You are playing Leicester next and Tottenham will object if you field a weakened side'
Norwich Manager: 'I don't give a xxxx, bye bye'

[plannerj]

dim view, on 04 May 2020 - 01:05 PM, said:

Sorry if I've missed summat on other threads, but have you heard of any NL update yet please?

We now face the farce of the PL clubs playing a huge percentage of meaningless games to finish the season if relegation is scrapped.

Norwich Manager : 'Is that the FA?'
FA : 'yes'
Norwich Manager : 'We are fielding our reserves for all the matches'
FA : 'You can't. You are playing Leicester next and Tottenham will object if you field a weakened side'
Norwich Manager: 'I don't give a xxxx, bye bye'

FA: ‘You’re banned. Bye bye to you too’!

[boot]

plannerj said:

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FA: 'You're banned. Bye bye to you too'!

,
Norwich Manager : OK boys we have to field a strong side on paper but I will be 'resting' a few players and the rest of you shouldn't be busting a gut and getting injured. DIm View's point is perfectly correct and valid.

[whittman]

Westbars Spireite, on 03 May 2020 - 02:37 PM, said:

Pressure will be mounting on Premier League players, some of whom are back in training of sorts next week I’ve seen reported. We know why this is and the reasons aren’t sporting ones whatever certain people might try and claim. They might be extraordinarily well paid for what they do but is that justification enough to think they should just get on with it? Even if games can be played in some ‘clean’ environment behind closed doors there will still be hundreds of support staff required to ensure games are played and broadcast.

I would imagine the Premier League matches that will be televised will not be covered by the usual 20 odd cameras for each match and they might even go back to the old days of live television coverage and use about 6 cameras for each match especially if the broadcast crews have to be kept together between the matches along with the players and officials

[Ernie Ernie Ernie]

Valley Blues, on 03 May 2020 - 07:32 PM, said:

My work is non essential.
I’m not in favour of being at work, but no one asked me what I thought.
I have a family.
I suppose I’m under pressure to go to work as furloughing isn’t an option so I would have to self isolate on SSP, which I can’t afford to do.
I would think that the top flight premier league players will be protected and shielded from the virus far better than I am.
It’s not right at all but let’s not forget millions of workers in the UK have been running the gauntlet for weeks.

Can we ask what you do if your employer has made you go in for non essential work?

[azul]

boot, on 04 May 2020 - 02:13 PM, said:

,
Norwich Manager : OK boys we have to field a strong side on paper but I will be 'resting' a few players and the rest of you shouldn't be busting a gut and getting injured. DIm View's point is perfectly correct and valid.

It amuses me that he thinks the FA are the decision makers in this process and not the Premiership

[tomjoad]

Ernie Ernie Ernie, on 04 May 2020 - 04:22 PM, said:

Can we ask what you do if your employer has made you go in for non essential work?

It appears a fair few engineering factories and their offices stayed/staying open.

[dim view]

azul, on 04 May 2020 - 06:04 PM, said:

It amuses me that he thinks the FA are the decision makers in this process and not the Premiership

well that has passed me by. So when did the PL take over stewardship of the 'play your strongest team' rule?

[JonB]

tomjoad, on 04 May 2020 - 06:29 PM, said:

It appears a fair few engineering factories and their offices stayed/staying open.

I do IT support and nearly all our customers are still working in one way or another. They range from engineering places to waste disposal to electrical contractors. Most of them aren’t just skeleton staff either, I struggle to see how many of them seem to think why they should still be open.

[Stockholm Spireite]

plannerj, on 04 May 2020 - 01:20 PM, said:

FA: ‘You’re banned. Bye bye to you too’!

But each premiership squad is made of 25 players. There may be imbalance between clubs in terms of depth in quality, but apart from starters, subs and not selected, there is no "official" distinction between players as a stronger or weaker team.

Cue the semantic arguments of rotation vs weakened team when playing a relegation-fodder opponent...

[JonB]

Looks like it wont just be clubs that will seek legal action should they not get want they want...EFL chairman Rick Parry threatening the Prem with action now and then has a pop at parachute payments for good measure!

Martyn Ziegler @martynziegler
NEW: EFL chairman Rick Parry tells MPs they expect 3 clubs to be promoted to PL and 3 to be relegated and if not there will be "very messy" legal action. #leeds #WBA

Martyn Ziegler @martynziegler
Wow! - now Parry describes parachute payments as "an evil which need to be eradicated"

[Oh Wade Falana]

JonB, on 05 May 2020 - 10:28 AM, said:

Looks like it wont just be clubs that will seek legal action should they not get want they want...EFL chairman Rick Parry threatening the Prem with action now and then has a pop at parachute payments for good measure!

Martyn Ziegler @martynziegler
NEW: EFL chairman Rick Parry tells MPs they expect 3 clubs to be promoted to PL and 3 to be relegated and if not there will be "very messy" legal action. #leeds #WBA

Martyn Ziegler @martynziegler
Wow! - now Parry describes parachute payments as "an evil which need to be eradicated"

Ironically Parry used to be the head honcho of the Premier League!!

[DerbySpireite59]

I still maintain that the FA has, inadvertently (?), already set the precedent.

80% of the Pyramid has seen their season declared null and void.No relegations and no promotions.

The FA has placed the National League in an awkward position, to say the least.

How can any team from the NL be relegated when they wont be from its North and South divisions? Rhetorical questions the way.

[azul]

DerbySpireite57, on 05 May 2020 - 12:32 PM, said:

I still maintain that the FA has, inadvertently (?), already set the precedent.

80% of the Pyramid has seen their season declared null and void.No relegations and no promotions.

The FA has placed the National League in an awkward position, to say the least.

How can any team from the NL be relegated when they wont be from its North and South divisions? Rhetorical questions the way.

Just to clarify the FA only ratified the decision taken by steps 3 to 7 after a poll of clubs because clubs at that level can't afford to pay players beyond the final game. The majoriy of clubs at step 1 and 2 voted to end the season early for similar reasons and we await to see how they resolve promotion and relegation. When they do that, the FA will ratify that as long as it is consistent with what PL and FL do.

I don't believe the decision to cancel steps 3 to 7 had any impact on the Vanarama league decision. What is putting clubs at our level in an awkward spot is indecision by the EFL and ultimately the PL because that is where the money and the influence is.