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#441 User is offline   Paul Fisher 

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Posted 27 April 2020 - 07:22 PM

IMO and this comes down to the players contracts which have now ceased. If the full season can't be completed then it should be nulled with no promotion/relegation etc.

To have the season starting later in the year would not be on a level playing field as squads would change, even managers.

Sorry Barrow, but this a freak occurrence and just your luck.
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Posted 27 April 2020 - 07:38 PM

 mr. smith, on 27 April 2020 - 07:03 PM, said:

if you go for the 2 season combine then the second season for many teams would be a waste of time promotion wise.

Correct and to make it worse we'd have 2 journeys to Yeovil
Derbyshire is Derbyshire
Yorkshire is Yorkshire

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Posted 27 April 2020 - 07:43 PM

Can we not go back to the stage in the season when everybody had played eachother once? No team having played extra games, or a weak team twice...

I wonder what those projections might look like in the leagues from the top down ss compared to current standings?
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Posted 27 April 2020 - 07:53 PM

 Stockholm Spireite, on 27 April 2020 - 07:43 PM, said:

Can we not go back to the stage in the season when everybody had played eachother once? No team having played extra games, or a weak team twice...

I wonder what those projections might look like in the leagues from the top down ss compared to current standings?

I think we might be down on that one.
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Posted 27 April 2020 - 07:55 PM

 Stockholm Spireite, on 27 April 2020 - 07:43 PM, said:

Can we not go back to the stage in the season when everybody had played eachother once? No team having played extra games, or a weak team twice...

I wonder what those projections might look like in the leagues from the top down ss compared to current standings?


teams would have differing amounts of home/away games.
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Posted 27 April 2020 - 07:56 PM

 Valley Blues, on 27 April 2020 - 05:11 PM, said:

What about the team from Jersey and Vauxhall Motors? Both mathematically promoted in their respective divisions prior to the season being declared void. They haven’t completed the season so is it right they are denied promotion even though they had already gained it?

They haven't already gained promotion if the season turned out to be void....it never happened basically if 46 games not completed.
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Posted 27 April 2020 - 08:10 PM

 mr. smith, on 27 April 2020 - 07:55 PM, said:

teams would have differing amounts of home/away games.


Yes +/- 1 game. The point I'm making is teams who might have played the bottom club twice and won have banked an easy 6 points, whereas others haven't.

I know it's a hypothetical situation, but so is saying that team x would/wouldn't win their next 5 games, and that's a lot harder to quantify.
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Posted 27 April 2020 - 08:11 PM

National League now exploring the possibility of having play offs..Notts County better get replanting their pitch!
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Posted 27 April 2020 - 08:19 PM

The thing about voiding the season is it removes the hypothetical. There's no predictions about what would or might have happened according to various criteria. Putting it bluntly, nothing happened. From our point of view it would mean relegation is avoided but would this season's parachute payment be reinstated? Probably not
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Posted 27 April 2020 - 08:21 PM

 Spire-Power, on 27 April 2020 - 08:19 PM, said:

The thing about voiding the season is it removes the hypothetical. There's no predictions about what would or might have happened according to various criteria. Putting it bluntly, nothing happened. From our point of view it would mean relegation is avoided but would this season's parachute payment be reinstated? Probably not

We won’t void the season. Almost certain of it. Too many implications to do so.
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Posted 27 April 2020 - 08:41 PM

 mr. smith, on 27 April 2020 - 07:03 PM, said:

if you go for the 2 season combine then the second season for many teams would be a waste of time promotion wise.

True, other than a longshot chance of play offs I guess. There's no real solution that would make all parties happy.
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Posted 27 April 2020 - 08:48 PM

 mr. smith, on 27 April 2020 - 07:03 PM, said:

if you go for the 2 season combine then the second season for many teams would be a waste of time promotion wise.

I think as we are on the equivalent of a war footing, they could live with that.
Anyway, the 2 season combine isn't an option. I've never seen it mentioned and I doubt whether our representative has had the gumption to mention it.
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Posted 27 April 2020 - 08:51 PM

 Spire-Power, on 27 April 2020 - 07:56 PM, said:

They haven't already gained promotion if the season turned out to be void....it never happened basically if 46 games not completed.

They had gained promotion prior to the season being void. At the point the decision was made to pull the plug, they had a P next to their name.
The voiding of the season effectively reversed the promotion, not denied it, I suppose.
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Posted 27 April 2020 - 08:54 PM

The 2 season jobby doesnt look very appealing to me from our own clubs perspective

This post has been edited by Spire-Power: 27 April 2020 - 08:57 PM

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Posted 27 April 2020 - 09:01 PM

 Spire-Power, on 27 April 2020 - 08:54 PM, said:

The 2 season jobby doesnt look very appealing to me from our own clubs perspective

It isn't. Somebody said on here that no team goes from being relegation to promotion candidates in one season. I'd guess it would probably be a neutral position for us. Anyway, it's academic.
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Posted 27 April 2020 - 09:07 PM

 dim view, on 27 April 2020 - 09:01 PM, said:

It isn't. Somebody said on here that no team goes from being relegation to promotion candidates in one season. I'd guess it would probably be a neutral position for us. Anyway, it's academic.

Id guess that what somebody said has been proved wrong many times
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Posted 27 April 2020 - 09:15 PM

 dim view, on 27 April 2020 - 08:48 PM, said:

I think as we are on the equivalent of a war footing, they could live with that.
Anyway, the 2 season combine isn't an option. I've never seen it mentioned and I doubt whether our representative has had the gumption to mention it.

Is gumption the correct word
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Posted 27 April 2020 - 09:17 PM

 Spire-Power, on 27 April 2020 - 09:07 PM, said:

Id guess that what somebody said has been proved wrong many times

1968/9 season we just avoided having to apply for re-election then won fourth division championship season after -50 years anniversary today !
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Posted 27 April 2020 - 09:20 PM

 newbold ken, on 27 April 2020 - 09:17 PM, said:

1968/9 season we just avoided having to apply for re-election then won fourth division championship season after -50 years anniversary today !

A similar turnaround might see us in the playoffs under Dim’s idea
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Posted 27 April 2020 - 09:37 PM

 CFC91, on 27 April 2020 - 08:11 PM, said:

National League now exploring the possibility of having play offs..Notts County better get replanting their pitch!


They had better hurry up and make some decisions as many clubs have players out of contact from 30th April
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