[johnd51]

Just a thought and someone has probably mentioned it before. Has the NL gone a lap too early with their cancellation? If the Premier League and EFL opt to finish their seasons starting let's say July 23 and that takes 6 weeks or more with cups, play-offs and Europe. With even a tiny close season 2020/21 may not start until October. That is a very long time for clubs like ours to have no matchday income. If the main leagues are playing, so should we.

Just a thought and someone has probably mentioned it before. Has the NL gone a lap too early with their cancellation? If the Premier League and EFL opt to finish their seasons starting let's say July 23 and that takes 6 weeks or more with cups, play-offs and Europe. With even a tiny close season 2020/21 may not start until October. That is a very long time for clubs like ours to have no matchday income. If the main leagues are playing, so should we.

Just a thought and someone has probably mentioned it before. Has the NL gone a lap too early with their cancellation? If the Premier League and EFL opt to finish their seasons starting let's say July 23 and that takes 6 weeks or more with cups, play-offs and Europe. With even a tiny close season 2020/21 may not start until October. That is a very long time for clubs like ours to have no matchday income. If the main leagues are playing, so should we.

[bangkokspire]

A recurring thought it seems!

[mr. smith]

dim view, on 26 April 2020 - 08:00 AM, said:

I'm struggling to understand why the simple 'convert the current competition into a 2 season, play each other 4 times' idea hasn't at least been suggested. The only complication would be sorting out the qualifiers for European comps, which is a Premier League problem and which might be cancelled anyway.

For clubs like us itd right this & next season off.

[CFC91]

johnd51, on 26 April 2020 - 11:35 PM, said:

Just a thought and someone has probably mentioned it before. Has the NL gone a lap too early with their cancellation? If the Premier League and EFL opt to finish their seasons starting let's say July 23 and that takes 6 weeks or more with cups, play-offs and Europe. With even a tiny close season 2020/21 may not start until October. That is a very long time for clubs like ours to have no matchday income. If the main leagues are playing, so should we.

They probably did, and now they're probably dragging their heels because they've realised they need to adhere to whatever the FL do.

Current dates being worked too are to have the seasons wrapped up and concluded by July 31st to we start the first weekend in September.

I still think this feels very ambitious but think more will be revealed this week, and it's all still very much reliant upon the government relaxing lockdown measure similar to how Italy have and us getting proper testing in place.

[Tha Knows...]

Are they waiting for the FL... or letting NL clubs vote how to sort promotion and relegation or void the season?

[CFC91]

Spire-Power, on 27 April 2020 - 10:53 AM, said:

Are they waiting for the FL... or letting NL clubs vote how to sort promotion and relegation or void the season?

Whatever they vote for is likely useless if the FL continue with their plans to resume and Stevenage (+Bury) need to be replaced. That will have a knock on effect further down the pyramid.

The NL need to be careful or the FL could turn round and decide to scrap the 2 up 2 down rule or whatever and make it really difficult to get out the NL as it used to be.

Barrow regardless of what happens should be playing FL football next season as the Bury situation opens the door for someone, and it should really be Barrow.

[mr. smith]

CFC91, on 27 April 2020 - 11:54 AM, said:

Whatever they vote for is likely useless if the FL continue with their plans to resume and Stevenage (+Bury) need to be replaced. That will have a knock on effect further down the pyramid.

The NL need to be careful or the FL could turn round and decide to scrap the 2 up 2 down rule or whatever and make it really difficult to get out the NL as it used to be.

Barrow regardless of what happens should be playing FL football next season as the Bury situation opens the door for someone, and it should really be Barrow.

with 8 games to go & a 4pt gap no one can say it should be barrow.

[tomjoad]

I'm sorry I really dont understand this obsession with Barrow.They could have blon it.

[CFC91]

mr. smith, on 27 April 2020 - 12:39 PM, said:

with 8 games to go & a 4pt gap no one can say it should be barrow.

They're top so would win it on PPG/Season stopped so will be them if anyone.

[JonB]

To be fair to Barrow they are currently top and would be top if it was PPG....Harrogate could just as easily mess things up as Barrow could.

[CFC91]

Yeah it's definitely not the ideal way of deciding the outcome but i don't really feel like the NL has much choice. It'll be the Scottish route of settling it as it is now or the PPG route.

Both have their positives and negatives, and both will lead to a lot of moaning from varying sides.

[mr. smith]

CFC91, on 27 April 2020 - 01:10 PM, said:

They're top so would win it on PPG/Season stopped so will be them if anyone.

but they haven't won it over the course of a season. if you cant complete the season any method you introduce is unsatisfactory & false.
so should be nobody.

[CFC91]

mr. smith, on 27 April 2020 - 02:12 PM, said:

but they haven't won it over the course of a season. if you cant complete the season any method you introduce is unsatisfactory & false.
so should be nobody.

You're right of course. But if the NL turned round and said that then the EFL would lose their mind at the prospect of no relegation and a 23 team league next season and likely turn their back on the NL as much as possible, which in the long term wouldn't be good for anyone outside the FL.

Just going to have to bite the bullet and accept these are extenuating circumstances and a common sense approach needs to be had. It's not going to be 100% right, it's not going to please everyone but it'll have to do.

NL won't finish the season, the FL probably will. If they'd have an agreed plan on this we'd be in a better place, but doesn't look like the FA or anyone has stipulated that so they've gone off on a tangent.

[Oh Wade Falana]

Unless they've officially gone bust during this crisis (and I've missed the news of it) then Bury FC still exist at present. Should their conman of an owner somehow get their finances in order (or someone else does that) would they possibly lobby to be reinstated (if the season in the third tier gets made void)? Just throwing that one out there.

[CFC91]

Oh Wade Falana, on 27 April 2020 - 04:02 PM, said:

Unless they've officially gone bust during this crisis (and I've missed the news of it) then Bury FC still exist at present. Should their conman of an owner somehow get their finances in order (or someone else does that) would they possibly lobby to be reinstated (if the season in the third tier gets made void)? Just throwing that one out there.

They could both end up in the pyramid somehow - https://www.burytime...ational-league/

[Valley Blues]

Oh Wade Falana, on 27 April 2020 - 04:02 PM, said:

Unless they've officially gone bust during this crisis (and I've missed the news of it) then Bury FC still exist at present. Should their conman of an owner somehow get their finances in order (or someone else does that) would they possibly lobby to be reinstated (if the season in the third tier gets made void)? Just throwing that one out there.

I suggested this a couple of weeks ago.

In the event of a season being declared void, everything from that season is erased from record. It never happened.

Therefore, surely Bury are no longer guilty of failing to fulfil fixtures in the season that did not exist?

[Valley Blues]

mr. smith, on 27 April 2020 - 02:12 PM, said:

but they haven't won it over the course of a season. if you cant complete the season any method you introduce is unsatisfactory & false.
so should be nobody.

What about the team from Jersey and Vauxhall Motors? Both mathematically promoted in their respective divisions prior to the season being declared void. They haven’t completed the season so is it right they are denied promotion even though they had already gained it?

[mr. smith]

Valley Blues, on 27 April 2020 - 05:11 PM, said:

What about the team from Jersey and Vauxhall Motors? Both mathematically promoted in their respective divisions prior to the season being declared void. They haven’t completed the season so is it right they are denied promotion even though they had already gained it?

is it right? probably not.
nothing is clear cut.
to me if you cant complete the season in the same conditions that you started it then its void.
this applies further up the pyramid; talk of neutral grounds with no crowds, 5 substitutions etc makes it all a farce.

[Oh Wade Falana]

I'd have preferred the current season to resume whenever that is possible. If not that option then I like the option of making it a two season competition (finishing this season's fixtures and also the next and making the points combine to make an outcome). To be honest there's no option that doesn't have flaws and doesn't affect some teams adversely.

[mr. smith]

Oh Wade Falana, on 27 April 2020 - 06:37 PM, said:

I'd have preferred the current season to resume whenever that is possible. If not that option then I like the option of making it a two season competition (finishing this season's fixtures and also the next and making the points combine to make an outcome). To be honest there's no option that doesn't have flaws and doesn't affect some teams adversely.

if you go for the 2 season combine then the second season for many teams would be a waste of time promotion wise.