[azul]

mr. smith, on 03 April 2020 - 12:56 PM, said:

sadly so.
perhaps a few mths without sky/bt pumping it out 24/7 people will realise theres more important things.
& perhaps a few mths without income may reign in even the biggest clubs when it comes to wages ticket prices etc.

I see pressure has come to bear on the Prem - not enought I'd suggest - could go a lot further

https://www.bbc.co.u...otball/52148955

[azul]

hardgums, on 03 April 2020 - 02:55 PM, said:

Blimey! I might just have to eat my words

Yeah - we can look forward to next season now - old DA won't want to sell now

[erniemossity]

mr. smith, on 03 April 2020 - 12:56 PM, said:

sadly so.
perhaps a few mths without sky/bt pumping it out 24/7 people will realise theres more important things.
& perhaps a few mths without income may reign in even the biggest clubs when it comes to wages ticket prices etc.

I must admit I’m not missing the TV footie one tiny bit. I do miss my live fix at Town, but the overpaid Premiership prima donnas that throw themselves around, feigning injury, cheating etc....well they can keep it, I think I’ve been cured of that pantomime.

[Lincs Spireite]

azul, on 03 April 2020 - 03:03 PM, said:

I see pressure has come to bear on the Prem - not enought I'd suggest - could go a lot further

https://www.bbc.co.u...otball/52148955

A 30% pay cut ? If they had another 60% cut they would still be overpaid.

[TheMatlockFan]

azul, on 03 April 2020 - 03:03 PM, said:

I see pressure has come to bear on the Prem - not enought I'd suggest - could go a lot further

https://www.bbc.co.u...otball/52148955

I'm glad that you guys are getting financial support but as somebody who is part of a club that's fighting to keep it's head above water at the moment and having to ask the public for donations, to know because we are one division under the National League that we don't get a piece of the pie is truly heartbreaking.

[azul]

TheMatlockFan, on 03 April 2020 - 04:49 PM, said:

I'm glad that you guys are getting financial support but as somebody who is part of a club that's fighting to keep it's head above water at the moment and having to ask the public for donations, to know because we are one division under the National League that we don't get a piece of the pie is truly heartbreaking.

It will be interesting to see how much we get🙁 I would hope the FA would help out the leagues below the NL

I’ve contributed to your appeal on the basis of the number of game I’d expect to attend, sadly it doesn’t take into account the pies and beer I’d sup. I suspect that is quite significant earner for the club.

On a side issue, are the players being paid? I assume some will be non contract or contracted to April/May or are contracted to July as with full timers

This post has been edited by azul: 03 April 2020 - 05:02 PM

[Bonnyman]

TheMatlockFan, on 03 April 2020 - 04:49 PM, said:

I'm glad that you guys are getting financial support but as somebody who is part of a club that's fighting to keep it's head above water at the moment and having to ask the public for donations, to know because we are one division under the National League that we don't get a piece of the pie is truly heartbreaking.

Do players at matlock rely on that wage to survive ,surely it's secondary employment

[TheMatlockFan]

It's not players wages that is the issue as pointed out most are non contract but when you take in loss of gate earnings including us facing FCUM which is one of our biggest of the season with over 1500 expected, the loss of a festival, social club bookings and a Sportsmans dinner.

We cut our cloth accordingly but nobody could have foreseen this happening so like a lot of clubs at our level, it leaves a big black hole in the finances.

[Bonnyman]

TheMatlockFan, on 03 April 2020 - 05:24 PM, said:

It's not players wages that is the issue as pointed out most are non contract but when you take in loss of gate earnings including us facing FCUM which is one of our biggest of the season with over 1500 expected, the loss of a festival, social club bookings and a Sportsmans dinner.

We cut our cloth accordingly but nobody could have foreseen this happening so like a lot of clubs at our level, it leaves a big black hole in the finances.

Sorry I jumped on the thread a bit late,recently went to a do at matlock it's a lovely venue and is the most picturesque football club in the UK ( as far as I know),hope you come through it ok

[60s 70s Spireite]

Back to the title of the thread, and as per the latest DT post, the NL are to vote on immediately ending the season and then if passed, to vote on the possibility of plays offs for relegation and promotion.
https://www.bbc.co.u...otball/52189058

[azul]

60s 70s Spireite, on 09 April 2020 - 08:01 PM, said:

Back to the title of the thread, and as per the latest DT post, the NL are to vote on immediately ending the season and then if passed, to vote on the possibility of plays offs for relegation and promotion.
https://www.bbc.co.u...otball/52189058

Hopefully the voting will be made public it will interesting to see who votes for what. I assume the promotion places will be provisional depending on what the EFL decide

Interesting sum of money from the Premiership - that should cover the cost loss of match day revenue as long as people don’t demand their ST being reimbursed

The big issue will be the non-match day revenue and early bird season ticket money that keeps us alive over summer

[60s 70s Spireite]

azul, on 09 April 2020 - 08:15 PM, said:

Hopefully the voting will be made public it will interesting to see who votes for what. I assume the promotion places will be provisional depending on what the EFL decide

Interesting sum of money from the Premiership - that should cover the cost loss of match day revenue as long as people don’t demand their ST being reimbursed

The big issue will be the non-match day revenue and early bird season ticket money that keeps us alive over summer

As discussed elsewhere, I think the report about the cash is misleading as it’s been confirmed its merely an advance of money due in August, not additional money.
Also almost all reports state that there’s no right to a refund on season tickets for matches not played. Certainly clubs with very detailed season ticket T & Cs have clauses that say that. An example is:
The Club hereby excludes any liability for any loss, injury, costs, expenses or damage of any kind connected to any failure or delay by the club in carrying out any of its obligations under the Conditions of Issue which is caused by circumstances outside of its reasonable control; and any abandonment, postponement or cancellation of any matches.”

[charleyfarley11]

58 grand each is a disgrace? And its only an ADVANCE,! just shows how little prem league care about non league

[calvin plummers socks]

charleyfarley11, on 09 April 2020 - 08:47 PM, said:

58 grand each is a disgrace? And its only an ADVANCE,! just shows how little prem league care about non league

But would you expect the NL or NL teams to give money to say Step 5 teams?

Prob not.

[azul]

calvin plummers socks, on 09 April 2020 - 08:56 PM, said:

But would you expect the NL or NL teams to give money to say Step 5 teams?

Prob not.

There’s a slight difference, most NL teams have buggar all - not sure you can say that about The Prem

[60s 70s Spireite]

calvin plummers socks, on 09 April 2020 - 08:56 PM, said:

But would you expect the NL or NL teams to give money to say Step 5 teams?
Prob not.

I think a word used sadly too much in the news recently is relevant here.
Exponential. The rise in wages for Premier League players v NL step one players, compared to NL step one to NL step two.

[azul]

charleyfarley11, on 09 April 2020 - 08:47 PM, said:

58 grand each is a disgrace? And its only an ADVANCE,! just shows how little prem league care about non league

You sound surprised, when do the rich care about the poor?

[calvin plummers socks]

60s 70s Spireite, on 09 April 2020 - 09:06 PM, said:

I think a word used sadly too much in the news recently is relevant here.
Exponential. The rise in wages for Premier League players v NL step one players, compared to NL step one to NL step two.

Yep I fully agree and wish they would but can’t see it happening.

Have to say have dealt with NL in a recent role with a club and it’s a world away from the EFL in terms of organisation etc (probably to be expected I guess) but these negotiations around the end of this season have been painful.
Trying to please everyone as is happening is not going to happen- a strong decision should be made and stuck to

[moondog]

moondog, on 26 March 2020 - 05:42 PM, said:

FA statement




We have been working collaboratively with the National League System (NLS), the women’s football pyramid and the wider grassroots game since the outbreak of COVID-19 on how to conclude the 2019-20 season in the most appropriate way possible.

These are challenging circumstances for English football and all decisions taken are in the best interests of the game and in consultation across key stakeholders. Our primary concern will always be for the safety and welfare of clubs, players, staff, officials, volunteers and supporters during this unprecedented time.

Today’s steps take into account the financial impact during this uncertain period, whilst considering the fairest method on how the sporting outcomes for the season will be decided with the integrity of the leagues in mind.

National League System

The NLS and the women’s football pyramid were able to build a consensus amongst their leagues and, where possible, aimed to create a consistent approach across all leagues, whilst taking into account the unique characteristics of each individual league.

As a result, The FA and NLS steps three to six have reached a consensus that their 2019-20 season will now be brought to an end, and all results will be expunged. This will mean no promotion or relegation of clubs between NLS steps three to six, and no promotion to NLS step two.

These decisions will also apply to the leagues and clubs who play at NLS step seven.

We will continue to assist and support the National League (NLS steps one and two) to determine the outcome of its 2019-20 season as quickly as possible. The planned implementation of the restructure of the NLS will also now be deferred until the start of the 2021-22 season.

Furthermore, we can now confirm that we have decided that all grassroots football is concluded for the 2019-20 season. This will allow the game to move forward and to commence planning for next season. Our County Football Associations (CFAs) will be supporting grassroots leagues over the coming days to determine how they should close out their current competitions.

Where appropriate, the above decisions will be put to The FA Council for ratification.

Throughout this period we continue to seek guidance in respect of the government’s financial support packages relative to COVID-19 and how they are applicable to clubs in the NLS, the women’s football pyramid and the wider grassroots game

The FA Council today ratified the steps 3 to 7 decision to void the season.

Statement outlining the reasons here

https://www.thenonle...-null-and-void/

[Tha Knows...]

Article explains why a points per game (effectively a game of prediction) approach would be wrong.