[Westbars Spireite]

Anyone else signed up as an NHS volunteer and had anything beyond the initial email?

[Misnomer]

https://twitter.com/...0948399104?s=20

[The Earl of Chesterfield]

Misnomer, on 28 March 2020 - 09:57 AM, said:

https://twitter.com/...0948399104?s=20

https://www.msn.com/...ocid=spartanntp

https://www.msn.com/...ocid=spartanntp

This post has been edited by The Earl of Chesterfield: 28 March 2020 - 02:12 PM

[The Earl of Chesterfield]

Meanwhile: https://www.msn.com/...ocid=spartanntp

[Wooden Spoon]

Looks like a huge crisis is brewing in India. Economic, social and humanitarian disaster potentially in the making there.

[Search & Destroy]

And in South Africa in the Townships, going to be carnage

[Mr Mercury]

Italy getting close to social breakdown, while China does everything it can to close its borders and keep the virus it gave the World out. Surely there must be some recrimination against the Chinese government over this?

[Wooden Spoon]

Search and Destroy said:

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And in South Africa in the Townships, going to be carnage

Thousands of migrant workers suddenly unemployed, worried food and shelter are walking hundreds of miles home. Literally thousands on the highway. Potentially spreading it country wide in one fell swoop.

[Mr Mercury]

Misnomer, on 28 March 2020 - 09:57 AM, said:

https://twitter.com/...0948399104?s=20

Any links to the shi..te filled animal slaughter/torture houses that are the wet markets of Asia, or the secretive actions of the Chinese government that apparently kept this secret from the World whilst keeping those that tried to warn us "quiet" to the point that many of the potential whistle blowers have died in somewhat questionable circumstances?

[Wooden Spoon]

Mr Mercury said:

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Italy getting close to social breakdown, while China does everything it can to close its borders and keep the virus it gave the World out. Surely there must be some recrimination against the Chinese government over this?

The minimum has to be demands for human rights and animal welfare reforms. If not, import duties and foreign business encouraged to relocate.

[dim view]

Mr Mercury, on 28 March 2020 - 09:13 PM, said:

Any links to the shi..te filled animal slaughter/torture houses that are the wet markets of Asia, or the secretive actions of the Chinese government that apparently kept this secret from the World whilst keeping those that tried to warn us "quiet" to the point that many of the potential whistle blowers have died in somewhat questionable circumstances?

'Only a country can file case against other country in international court, individuals are not allowed to do this. Again the judgements of international court are not binding upon concerned country due to doctrine of sovereignty,which says every nation is independent in its own action including Justice.'

This is going to get nasty. I was saying years ago that the only way to curb US gun laws is for a global community of people unwilling to travel there, whether as tourists or business people, emerges online.

The People, as opposed to any naff government, will have to influence events.

[clarevoyant.]

Mr Mercury, on 28 March 2020 - 09:08 PM, said:

Italy getting close to social breakdown, while China does everything it can to close its borders and keep the virus it gave the World out. Surely there must be some recrimination against the Chinese government over this?

It's not the various government recriminations that worries me but that of people (millions?) who were not racist but will now be deemed so. And I don't mean by not ordering a weekly no.46 with noodles.

[Search & Destroy]

Mr Mercury, on 28 March 2020 - 09:13 PM, said:

Any links to the shi..te filled animal slaughter/torture houses that are the wet markets of Asia, or the secretive actions of the Chinese government that apparently kept this secret from the World whilst keeping those that tried to warn us "quiet" to the point that many of the potential whistle blowers have died in somewhat questionable circumstances?

Embarrassing this is being used to attack Trump, yes he’s a useless oaf, but this is not his responsibility, blame China

[Search & Destroy]

Over 10000 dead Italy which sounds horrendous


Until you consider that the UK would see 20000 deaths as a result

[clarevoyant.]

Search and Destroy, on 28 March 2020 - 09:35 PM, said:

Embarrassing this is being used to attack Trump, yes he’s a useless oaf, but this is not his responsibility, blame China

He's made it easier for Mexico to close their borders with the US

[Misnomer]

Mr Mercury, on 28 March 2020 - 09:13 PM, said:

Any links to the shi..te filled animal slaughter/torture houses that are the wet markets of Asia, or the secretive actions of the Chinese government that apparently kept this secret from the World whilst keeping those that tried to warn us "quiet" to the point that many of the potential whistle blowers have died in somewhat questionable circumstances?

No, have you?

[Misnomer]

Search and Destroy, on 28 March 2020 - 09:35 PM, said:

Embarrassing this is being used to attack Trump, yes he’s a useless oaf, but this is not his responsibility, blame China

Don't be a dunce. It's his pathetic response and his inability to protect the American people that is his responsibility; he's failed by being an ignorant moron....

[fishini]

Search and Destroy, on 28 March 2020 - 09:35 PM, said:

Embarrassing this is being used to attack Trump, yes he’s a useless oaf, but this is not his responsibility, blame China

Defending a man who a month ago informed his country that the the virus was both fake news and a democrat conspiracy. Are you for real?

[Mr Mercury]

Misnomer, on 29 March 2020 - 01:29 AM, said:

No, have you?

I'm sure there are loads out there but I prefer to make up my own mind.

[The Earl of Chesterfield]

I think we could go around the world and see what we'd consider medieval conditions. Then should we ostracise African countries 'giving us' such as Ebola? Should Britain have suffered repercussions over CJD? The US communities where Aids was so prevalent?

And where do we draw the line; the Saudi Arabia that 'gives us' Muslim fundamentalism? That murders journalists and gay people? That treats women as third class citizens? In how much blood are they drenched whilst western nations queue to exchange oil for arms? Perhaps the Brazil tearing down rainforests as it's president parrots Trump's pandemic prattle? The fascist Hungarian government courted by both Tory and UKIP members of the European Parliament? The Isreal sickeningly subjugating Palastenians?

An America intent on exporting meats produced in ways well below those we've long deemed acceptable?

Let's also remember that both the current government and it's predecessors have been happy to embrace Chinese deals. Just as they still - STILL - allow untested arrivals from all over the globe.

Absolutely nothing wrong or racist in condemning countries for disgusting practices. Whether they're faeces spattered slaughterhouses, barbaric religious regimes or, as our friend 'Dim View' references, encouraging gun ownership despite hundreds of thousands gunned down annually.

However let's be equally critical of politicians who've created an environment where Covid's flourished - by underfunding or even dismantling infrastructure and denying it's threat.

This post has been edited by The Earl of Chesterfield: 29 March 2020 - 09:32 AM