[h again]

Exharboroughspireite, on 05 August 2019 - 05:56 AM, said:

A study done in 2017 showed that a goal is scored after 64 crosses on average.

Cross accuracy [23.5%]

x

Crosses translating into shots [56%]

x

Key passes from crosses becoming a goal [11.9%]

=

PROBABILITY OF SCORING A GOAL FROM A CROSS [1.6%].

This means that, on average, it takes 64 crosses to score a goal.

https://soccerment.c...ctive-strategy/

As usual, I expect the statistics are correct and the argument they support entirely wrong. Wingers aren't there just to provide crosses, they're used to spread play out into spaces on the wings, and at our level they're vital. The alternative is to play everything by short passes through a crowded midfield, and this lot couldn't play short, quick passes if they had the midfield to themselves. Either they have the option of going wide, or they lose it is about where we are. The option of a get-out-of-jail ball to the wings has to be available.
Once it's out in the relatively large spaces on the wings at least we can go forward. Doesn't happen when we try passing through the middle. Get in the opponents back third and then worry about the crosses.

This post has been edited by h again: 05 August 2019 - 08:11 PM

[Exharboroughspireite]

I chucked the data out as a talking point. Let’s really be honest, when have we ever seen an abundance of goals at town created by out and out wingers? I can’t recall. I can recall wide players but that is to stretch the play, not to bang in crosses all day.

[Goku]

h again, on 05 August 2019 - 08:10 PM, said:

As usual, I expect the statistics are correct and the argument they support entirely wrong. Wingers aren't there just to provide crosses, they're used to spread play out into spaces on the wings, and at our level they're vital. The alternative is to play everything by short passes through a crowded midfield, and this lot couldn't play short, quick passes if they had the midfield to themselves. Either they have the option of going wide, or they lose it is about where we are. The option of a get-out-of-jail ball to the wings has to be available.
Once it's out in the relatively large spaces on the wings at least we can go forward. Doesn't happen when we try passing through the middle. Get in the opponents back third and then worry about the crosses.

agreed, good analysis. congesting midfield and trying to subsequently pass through it is a big no-no at this level

[Wooden Spoon]

h again, on 05 August 2019 - 08:10 PM, said:

<br />   <br />    As usual, I expect the statistics are correct and the argument they support entirely wrong. Wingers aren't there just to provide crosses, they're used to spread play out into spaces on the wings, and at our level they're vital. The alternative is to play everything by short passes through a crowded midfield, and this lot couldn't play short, quick passes if they had the midfield to themselves. Either they have the option of going wide, or they lose it is about where we are. The option of a get-out-of-jail ball to the wings has to be available.<br />   Once it's out in the relatively large spaces on the wings at least we can go forward. Doesn't happen when we try passing through the middle. Get in the opponents back third and then worry about the crosses.<br />

Agreed, and we could also use some pace.

[Tha Knows...]

More chaos on forum. Now looks like H's account has been hacked ...

[Westbars Spireite]

If he sticks to football he can talk sense. On this occasion he's absolutely right. Football is a very simple game that is made complicated unnecessarily alot of the time.

[Wooden Spoon]

Westbars Spireite, on 05 August 2019 - 09:36 PM, said:

<br />If he sticks to football he can talk sense.

Indeed