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Our Old Friend Graham Bean Is Back

#281 User is offline   Johnnyspireite7 

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Posted 23 December 2018 - 08:46 AM

View PostCactoise, on 23 December 2018 - 08:30 AM, said:

Why didn't we advertise and get the best man for the job?

Because the best man for the job wouldn't touch us with a twenty foot pole?

'Ooh look Chesterfield are advertising for a new CEO'

'Are Carson & Allen still in charge there?'

'Yes'

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Posted 23 December 2018 - 08:56 AM

View Post60s 70s Spireite, on 23 December 2018 - 07:29 AM, said:

The tale of how Bean was appointed seems to typify everything that’s wrong under the current regime. Meets Ashley under his guise as representative for clubs defending FA charges, hey presto appointed as CEO a few months later.
Had we identified we needed a CEO? (Perhaps we had, but there seemed no hurry to replace the part time Dunford). If so, had we prepared a Job Specification identifying duties and targets? Plus a People Specification, what type of qualities, qualifications, experience and skills were needed by the successful applicant?
And then where were the adverts to be placed and the opportunity to publicised?
It seems every opprtuunity for transparency, and hence a little trust, is spurned and kicked into the long grass.

Excellent post.

Graham Bean has operated in the football industry satisfying an extremely small, niche market. It is the equivalent of a small business owner bringing in outside help to assist with a tax inspection, employment tribunal, HSE investigation, etc. In other words, most businesses, if run correctly, will never need to bring in that specialist to help.

So what does Graham bring to the table in terms of qualifications and experience to ensure that the other 99.99% of the demands of running a business, the day to day stuff, are met?

Two things stand out for me. Firstly, if Graham's advisory business was doing that well how can he justify turning his back on that to become the CEO of a national league club and secondly, if he was self aware, he should be asking himself, what has he done in his past that means he will be able to successfully run a business with a £6M turnover.

Graham Bean's appointment follows a pattern, he has not realised it yet, but he will do in time.
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Posted 23 December 2018 - 09:05 AM

The bloke's probably reading this, scratching his head and thinking 'what the hell have I got myself into this time? These b*stards won't let anything go'.
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Posted 23 December 2018 - 09:13 AM

View PostWestbars Spireite, on 23 December 2018 - 09:05 AM, said:

The bloke's probably reading this, scratching his head and thinking 'what the hell have I got myself into this time? These b*stards won't let anything go'.


It's no bad thing for him to know his work will be critically viewed on here. He's started in the right way I think by undertaking a fact finding mission involving the fans.
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Posted 23 December 2018 - 09:39 AM

View PostWestbars Spireite, on 23 December 2018 - 09:05 AM, said:

The bloke's probably reading this, scratching his head and thinking 'what the hell have I got myself into this time? These b*stards won't let anything go'.

It is not about him. It is about the two who run the business and make the decisions.
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Posted 23 December 2018 - 10:17 AM

View PostBlue5, on 23 December 2018 - 09:39 AM, said:

It is not about him. It is about the two who run the business and make the decisions.


We know that. Does he?
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Posted 23 December 2018 - 10:27 AM

Almost certainly appointed in the hope when selling and heavily scrutinised a former FA compliance officer etc will add some legitimacy
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Posted 23 December 2018 - 10:38 AM

No matter how well intentioned GB is to build bridges with the fans he will always be tainted by his association with DA and AC. How many clubs in our division have a paid CEO? I would guess clubs' CEOs are the owner who won’t be getting paid for doing the job as they are also a supporter and attend every game but because DA and AC are staying away we end up having another wage on the books who DA will want paying back for when he sells up.
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Posted 23 December 2018 - 11:22 AM

View Postmoondog, on 23 December 2018 - 09:13 AM, said:

It's no bad thing for him to know his work will be critically viewed on here. He's started in the right way I think by undertaking a fact finding mission involving the fans.

It's Carson's work that I'm criticising. There must be a sale in the pipeline.

Why would Carson RECOMMEND that Bean talked first with you and Paul - one a person who has all the historical allegations at his fingertips, the other a person who could well have asked for disciplinary action to be commenced?

If there's one thing I've learned it's that he does nowt without careful thought. He wants you and Paul onside.
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Posted 23 December 2018 - 12:51 PM

View Postdim view, on 23 December 2018 - 11:22 AM, said:

It's Carson's work that I'm criticising. There must be a sale in the pipeline.

Why would Carson RECOMMEND that Bean talked first with you and Paul - one a person who has all the historical allegations at his fingertips, the other a person who could well have asked for disciplinary action to be commenced?

If there's one thing I've learned it's that he does nowt without careful thought. He wants you and Paul onside.


I'm not sure he did make such a recommendation. The message I received a week last Friday from AC was he had passed on my details to Graham as he wanted to meet to set the record straight about the postings on here, a fair share of which originated from me. I'm not sure we would have met so soon otherwise.

However I wasn't free to meet until this Friday by which time he'd addressed a lot of the questions via the media on Wednesday. He did ask me if there were any other fans he thought he should meet and mentioned he was going to speak to Paul, which was only natural given the protest.

As I know Paul well I was happy to attend a joint meeting. I thought just the two of us was enough to start things off, as I've mentioned Graham is happy to meet anyone and think it would be good if you contacted him.

There was no indication a sale is in the pipeline.
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Posted 23 December 2018 - 12:57 PM

View Postdim view, on 23 December 2018 - 11:22 AM, said:

It's Carson's work that I'm criticising. There must be a sale in the pipeline.

Why would Carson RECOMMEND that Bean talked first with you and Paul - one a person who has all the historical allegations at his fingertips, the other a person who could well have asked for disciplinary action to be commenced?

If there's one thing I've learned it's that he does nowt without careful thought. He wants you and Paul onside.


Why kid yourself there could have been some disciplinary action?
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Posted 23 December 2018 - 01:03 PM

I think Carson was told to get himself out the headlines much earlier this year.

Remember how the Manager seemed to become the main mouthpiece soon after arriving?

I also think the whole associate director/so-called restructure thing was just him looking for scapegoats, folk who'd allow him to say 'Not my fault, Guv' whilst still pulling the strings.

And I think Bean is just a glorified example of that, too.

Infact for all his pies, pints and personal PR let's see if the CEO allows qualified 'BB' members anywhere near the Town books...
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Posted 23 December 2018 - 03:59 PM

If Graham Bean wants to build trust and support then he needs to establish why the business has been run in such a way that it has been saddled with debt and therefore reliant upon the major shareholder's cash injections as well as recommending to the board of directors that the club appoints a full time chartered accountant, let us all see what response that gets.
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Posted 23 December 2018 - 04:32 PM

View PostBlue5, on 23 December 2018 - 03:59 PM, said:

If Graham Bean wants to build trust and support then he needs to establish why the business has been run in such a way that it has been saddled with debt and therefore reliant upon the major shareholder's cash injections as well as recommending to the board of directors that the club appoints a full time chartered accountant, let us all see what response that gets.


Surely not another chief as the indian employees seem to be disappearing over the horizon :windup
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Posted 23 December 2018 - 04:35 PM

View PostBlue5, on 23 December 2018 - 03:59 PM, said:

If Graham Bean wants to build trust and support then he needs to establish why the business has been run in such a way that it has been saddled with debt and therefore reliant upon the major shareholder's cash injections as well as recommending to the board of directors that the club appoints a full time chartered accountant, let us all see what response that gets.

With Paul Roberts in charge of Non Football Operations and Martin Allen in charge of Football Operations, he needs to establish why he hasn't made himself redundant already.
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Posted 23 December 2018 - 06:37 PM

View Postmoondog, on 23 December 2018 - 12:51 PM, said:

I've mentioned Graham is happy to meet anyone


3 days now with no response !!!! Suppose I've being played now as well ?

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Posted 23 December 2018 - 06:43 PM

View Postdim view, on 23 December 2018 - 04:35 PM, said:

With Paul Roberts in charge of Non Football Operations and Martin Allen in charge of Football Operations, he needs to establish why he hasn't made himself redundant already.


😂😂
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Posted 23 December 2018 - 07:14 PM

View Postpmb2016, on 23 December 2018 - 06:37 PM, said:

3 days now with no response !!!! Suppose I've being played now as well ?


Unreasonable to assume that when the last 2 days would have been non working days and I only posted his contact details late Friday afternoon.

What was the nature of your communication with him ?
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Posted 23 December 2018 - 07:31 PM

If I see Mr Bean in the Lounge on Boxing Day I will attempt to speak with him and pass on my fans view to him in person.
If you are reading this Mr Bean I will be in the 1866 lounge with bald head head and glasses, I did have a six pack but it’s now a keg.
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Posted 23 December 2018 - 09:39 PM

View Postmoondog, on 23 December 2018 - 07:14 PM, said:

Unreasonable to assume that when the last 2 days would have been non working days and I only posted his contact details late Friday afternoon.

What was the nature of your communication with him ?


Moondog I have have up most respect for you

I have something to offer that only he can make happen and is certainly worth a moment of his ear .

View Postmoondog, on 23 December 2018 - 07:14 PM, said:

Unreasonable to assume that when the last 2 days would have been non working days and I only posted his contact details late Friday afternoon.

What was the nature of your communication with him ?


Moondog I have have up most respect for you

I have something to offer that only he can make happen and is certainly worth a moment of his ear .
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