[bifocart]

Blue5, on 16 October 2018 - 06:06 PM, said:

Some might have seen it as the club taking a huge risk and gambling with its reputation.

Some did.

[Sammy Spireite]

Spire-Power, on 16 October 2018 - 06:40 PM, said:

Hes fully innocent of the rape allegation. The record proves it. If anyone doesn't accept it because of an assumption or hunch on their part as opposed to evidence that's their problem.

Technically, he was found "Not Guilty" not "Innocent"

You dont need to be found innocent of any crime, just not guilty (beyond reasonable doubt)

[Zytok]

Technically ie legally, innocent and not guilty are the same thing so technically he is innocent even if some folk think he isn't. 😉

This post has been edited by Zytok: 17 October 2018 - 10:49 AM

[calvin plummers socks]

Zytok, on 17 October 2018 - 10:41 AM, said:

Technically ie legally, innocent and not guilty are the same thing so technically he is innocent even if some folk think he isn't. 😉

Do the Town fans who idolised him when he came here still do so after his departure following his 'mysterious injury'
#spireitelegend

[Andy Spireite]

calvin plummers socks, on 17 October 2018 - 11:38 AM, said:

Do the Town fans who idolised him when he came here still do so after his departure following his 'mysterious injury'
#spireitelegend

Apart from a notable poster on here, who is a wind up merchant, I do not know of a single town fan who idolised him. In fact most, for a variety of reasons, were not happy with the signing.

[Tha Knows...]

Sammy Spireite, on 17 October 2018 - 09:41 AM, said:

Technically, he was found "Not Guilty" not "Innocent"

You dont need to be found innocent of any crime, just not guilty (beyond reasonable doubt)

I didn't say he was found innocent. I said he was innocent 're that charge

[clarevoyant.]

calvin plummers socks, on 17 October 2018 - 11:38 AM, said:

Do the Town fans who idolised him when he came here still do so after his departure following his 'mysterious injury'
#spireitelegend

Do "mysterious injuries" exist then? Be they either long or very short term

[calvin plummers socks]

clarevoyant., on 17 October 2018 - 01:30 PM, said:

Do "mysterious injuries" exist then? Be they either long or very short term

Mysterious as he didn't have one but didn't want to play

[Snowflake McBedwetter]

calvin plummers socks, on 17 October 2018 - 03:12 PM, said:

Mysterious as he didn't have one but didn't want to play

Do you have a 'Crystal Sponge'?

If not, how do you know he wasn't injured?

Sammy Spireite, on 17 October 2018 - 09:41 AM, said:

Technically, he was found "Not Guilty" not "Innocent"

You dont need to be found innocent of any crime, just not guilty (beyond reasonable doubt)

You're innocent until proven guilty.

[Tha Knows...]

KevinArnottsGoldenBoot, on 17 October 2018 - 04:13 PM, said:

Do you have a 'Crystal Sponge'?

If not, how do you know he wasn't injured?

Haven't you realised yet that he makes stuff up?

[Westbars Spireite]

calvin plummers socks, on 17 October 2018 - 03:12 PM, said:

Mysterious as he didn't have one but didn't want to play

Was he getting pretend treatment for it?

[clarevoyant.]

calvin plummers socks, on 17 October 2018 - 03:12 PM, said:

Mysterious as he didn't have one but didn't want to play

Wouldn't a professional person have to verify his injuries or would they play along with the charade, it does appear to be coming a standard practice within this highly regarded profession!!!!

[calvin plummers socks]

Spire-Power, on 17 October 2018 - 07:23 PM, said:

Haven't you realised yet that he makes stuff up?

Interesting quote
You still jizzing over that poster of CHED fanboy

[Tha Knows...]

Classy as ever cps. You ought to keep your fantasies private 😀

[Close but no prawn sarnies]

Putting to one side, non footballing events surrounding Ched.

For the first few games he was on fire, then the flames went out, he put his come and get me message out, then sat in the stands.

In terms of the rape charge.

I am sure the legal process sees some genuinely innocent folk be found guilty and some guilty ones, found innocent.

I made the point to be shot down by SP

Only two people in this knew the truth, who ever lied deserved punishment, I have no idea if the right one was punnished or got away with it

[calvin plummers socks]

Close but no prawn sarnies, on 18 October 2018 - 11:29 AM, said:

Putting to one side, non footballing events surrounding Ched.

For the first few games he was on fire, then the flames went out, he put his come and get me message out, then sat in the stands.

In terms of the rape charge.

I am sure the legal process sees some genuinely innocent folk be found guilty and some guilty ones, found innocent.

I made the point to be shot down by SP

Only two people in this knew the truth, who ever lied deserved punishment, I have no idea if the right one was punnished or got away with it

His brother was also there filming

[Close but no prawn sarnies]

calvin plummers socks, on 18 October 2018 - 12:54 PM, said:

His brother was also there filming

Allegedly !!!

I think the telling thing in all this is , Iam sure if we had the money to fight and had been wrongly imprisoned for rape and the victim had lied most of us would want her bought to justice and our name cleared.

There must be genuine reasons for Ched being more forgiving

[whittman]

Close but no prawn sarnies, on 18 October 2018 - 11:29 AM, said:

Putting to one side, non footballing events surrounding Ched.

For the first few games he was on fire, then the flames went out, he put his come and get me message out, then sat in the stands.

In terms of the rape charge.

I am sure the legal process sees some genuinely innocent folk be found guilty and some guilty ones, found innocent.

I made the point to be shot down by SP

Only two people in this knew the truth, who ever lied deserved punishment, I have no idea if the right one was punnished or got away with it

He was certainly on fire in the first few matches

The Walsall keeper is still looking for that rocket near post shot at trhe Kop end

As you say he suddenly went off the boil for some reason and was never the same player for us

[The Earl of Chesterfield]

To get this thread back on topic(ish) here's a mention of what became reality that pre-dates the list:

http://www.thecfss.c...opic=55565&st=0

And here:

http://www.thecfss.c...showtopic=55314

This post has been edited by MDCCCLXVI: 18 October 2018 - 03:36 PM

[Blue5]

spireitenag, on 16 October 2018 - 06:27 PM, said:

Let's also not forget about my first meeting with Sutcliffe and Turner when an ex member of staff from the development centre suffered an absolutely disgusting and completely untrue character assassination.

This person has provided so much valuable and factual information about the wrong doings across the road that would have probably never have been addressed without their amazing courage and resolve to reveal the truth despite being subjected to veiled threats and slurs.

Needless to say everything this person revealed has proven to be totally accurate.

All the questions I posed at the original meeting were answered with either lies or half truths.

Other meetings over a number of months with both CT,LS and sometimes with AC present saw further questions answered with distorted versions of the truth or downright lies.

Thank you.

Do you have a date for your initial meeting with Liam Sutcliffe and Chris Turner?