[calvin plummers socks]

After a WC the analysis is always done on the successful teams.
For years the Fa have sent out a team to analysts the Brazilians, Germans et al.
Even to Iceland.

Question now is how do nations like Iceland (population 340,000 (the size of 2 small London Boroughs) manage to compete (especially when their national sport is handball and closely followed by basketball. Their number of available playing age and sex is so very low)- high life expectancy etc.
What are they doing so right?

Similarly Croatia- population 4 million.
Emerging nation
They attend school from 7-1 each day and then sport takes over.
Each football coach has to qualify in strength and conditioning of some sort.
Most age groups from Croatia are highly ranked internationally also.
Club system closely linked to other sports - very much the multi-sport approach which we have gone against for many years.


I think the FA set up nowadys is good in terms of coach ed.
They got rid of a lot of older coaches and tutors on last couple of years (not necessarily a good thing) but age group results are looking promising.
The football DNA is obviously working.
Youth modules are good.
Not over reliant on fads like Futsal which is good

Future looks bright

[Dougspireite78]

The future looks very bright,ok we lost to Croatia last night but let's not forget this team is the youngest at the world cup, also we wasn't expected to get this far.

All we need to do is keep doing what we are doing the problem is nowadays in football it has to be today now, lose 3 games a manager is rubbish and gets the sack. I know its a slow process but keep this squad together, find that little something that we make us better and we will be a team to fear again.

I was listening this morning to 5live and what they said is so true, last year against all the top Brazilian kids (if you can call under 17's that) to the Spanish, French, German who were the world champions? Under 20's again France's, Germany's Argentina's emerging talent or the same age who are world champioc? Us.

So yes a slow slow process but even I'm the most skeptical fan as an England fan but in Southgate I feel even though I didn't want him at the time like everyone else will deliver silverware soon starting at the Euro's in 2 year time.

[Tha Knows...]

makes sense to keep faith with Southgate. Has he given any analysis about the tactical issues in the Croatia game that allowed them complete control of the second half? Maybe I’ve missed it but it would be good to hear that he has identified them. I’m certainly not going to big up Croatia at our expense. We got the crucial first goal and imo they were there to be beaten. But we could have been 2 up at half time and still not won given the second half showing

[Exharboroughspireite]

Elephant in the room is the cash cow that is the premier league. Two thirds of players non English. English players also reluctant to go abroad an experience football, culture and life elsewhere. This, coupled with a reluctance to coach skill (Chris waddles words not mine) = lack of success. England played last night for two hours without having a shot on target. Why? A lack of a creative, skilful player in the middle. England need to solve that before anything else.

[Blue roan lily]

Spire-Power, on 12 July 2018 - 07:27 PM, said:

makes sense to keep faith with Southgate. Has he given any analysis about the tactical issues in the Croatia game that allowed them complete control of the second half? Maybe I’ve missed it but it would be good to hear that he has identified them. I’m certainly not going to big up Croatia at our expense. We got the crucial first goal and imo they were there to be beaten. But we could have been 2 up at half time and still not won given the second half showing

Agree. We should have been atleast 2-0 at half time. Yes Kane should have squared it to Ali instead of shooting,but the confidence and selfishness of a striker meant he shot. You're right they were there for the beating but when we didn't go in 2 up they realised at half time that WE were there for the beating. Ultimately over 120 mins the best team ( on the night ) won.

[Search & Destroy]

calvin plummers socks, on 12 July 2018 - 11:13 AM, said:

After a WC the analysis is always done on the successful teams.
For years the Fa have sent out a team to analysts the Brazilians, Germans et al.
Even to Iceland.

Question now is how do nations like Iceland (population 340,000 (the size of 2 small London Boroughs) manage to compete (especially when their national sport is handball and closely followed by basketball. Their number of available playing age and sex is so very low)- high life expectancy etc.
What are they doing so right?

Similarly Croatia- population 4 million.
Emerging nation
They attend school from 7-1 each day and then sport takes over.
Each football coach has to qualify in strength and conditioning of some sort.
Most age groups from Croatia are highly ranked internationally also.
Club system closely linked to other sports - very much the multi-sport approach which we have gone against for many years.


I think the FA set up nowadys is good in terms of coach ed.
They got rid of a lot of older coaches and tutors on last couple of years (not necessarily a good thing) but age group results are looking promising.
The football DNA is obviously working.
Youth modules are good.
Not over reliant on fads like Futsal which is good

Future looks bright

Apparently something like one in every 7000 males in Iceland made their World Cup squad

[azul]

Search and Destroy, on 12 July 2018 - 10:04 PM, said:

Apparently something like one in every 7000 males in Iceland made their World Cup squad

But how many of those are between 18 and 35 and assuming a gender ratio of 50/50? But don’t encourage this lot, clinging onto to a rock in the North Atlantic

Seriously that some statistic

[Bobby Darling]

Exharboroughspireite, on 12 July 2018 - 07:38 PM, said:

Elephant in the room is the cash cow that is the premier league. Two thirds of players non English. English players also reluctant to go abroad an experience football, culture and life elsewhere. This, coupled with a reluctance to coach skill (Chris waddles words not mine) = lack of success. England played last night for two hours without having a shot on target. Why? A lack of a creative, skilful player in the middle. England need to solve that before anything else.

They scored. That was surely a shot on target?

[Goku]

Bobby Darling, on 13 July 2018 - 07:31 AM, said:

They scored. That was surely a shot on target?

Kane’s one on one as well

[60s 70s Spireite]

Goku, on 13 July 2018 - 07:51 AM, said:

Kane’s one on one as well

And the Stones header off the line....

[sophocles]

Goku, on 13 July 2018 - 07:51 AM, said:

Kane’s one on one as well

He actually shot twice on target on that occasion.

[Lincs Spireite]

Goku, on 13 July 2018 - 07:51 AM, said:

Kane’s one on one as well

Jack Lester would definately have had that one in the back of the net. Shouldn't have tried to pass it round the goalie.

[hilly81]

sophocles, on 13 July 2018 - 01:27 PM, said:

He actually shot twice on target on that occasion.

It's nitpicking but his second shot hit the post, so off target.

[hilly81]

hilly81, on 13 July 2018 - 01:32 PM, said:

It's nitpicking but his second shot hit the post, so off target.

I must apologise for this. Having seen this close up super slow mo this morning, it was actually an unbelievable save by the keeper. https://twitter.com/...7480247296?s=21