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So Onto Saturday

#1 User is offline   Hoare (400) 

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Posted 30 August 2017 - 12:16 PM

Whats the opinions here then, win an it will paper over some massive cracks an keep the fingers crossed brigade hoping that this time we are turning the corner.

Or lose and do the sensible thing and sack Caldwell an try again.

No easy choices here for the fans or the idiots in charge.



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Posted 30 August 2017 - 12:27 PM

If it was any other club, I'd take the hit on Saturday and get rid.
Unfortunately, any replacement will be arranged by everyone's tavourite clueless clown - Carson - I don't trust him to make the right decisions, so whatever happens will undoubtedly sink us.
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Posted 30 August 2017 - 12:30 PM

Even if we win Saturday, I cannot envisage a sustained improvement and expect Caldwell to go at some point.

I would be amazed if anyone came in tomorrow because on the evidence so far you wouldn't trust Caldwell and Branston, who has been remarkably quiet of late, with their choices.

In some ways I would not be upset with a loss tomorrow if it would push Caldwell closer if not through the door.

But .....hey ho......this is football and there are managers that have been on the point of dismissal before who have hit on a winning formula at the last minute and saved their skin. Ferguson at Manure and more recently Johnson at Barnsley spring to mind.
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Posted 30 August 2017 - 12:34 PM

View PostHoare (400), on 30 August 2017 - 12:16 PM, said:

Whats the opinions here then, win an it will paper over some massive cracks an keep the fingers crossed brigade hoping that this time we are turning the corner.

Or lose and do the sensible thing and sack Caldwell an try again.

No easy choices here for the fans or the idiots in charge.



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Don't worry there will be no cracks papered over.
God I hate this league.
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Posted 30 August 2017 - 12:38 PM

We will lose. Hopefully an attendance under 4k (home fans) will force the hierarchy to sack.
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Posted 30 August 2017 - 02:42 PM

View PostEssex_Spireite, on 30 August 2017 - 12:38 PM, said:

We will lose. Hopefully an attendance under 4k (home fans) will force the hierarchy to sack.


maybe it will be similar to the 4-0 home defeat by Swindon under Saunders, the final straw result the players possibly wanted

This post has been edited by semi130497: 30 August 2017 - 02:44 PM

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Posted 30 August 2017 - 02:54 PM

Hopefully ( and it pains me to WRITE THAT ) we lose Saturday and that clowns gone..
BUT mr Carson be very,very careful on the next appointment because it could just be the most important in the clubs history.
No club is too big or too good to be relegated from any league these days. If the next manager fails we could end up like Stockport, Darlington etc etc.
So please,please Mr Carson think about the fans and what we're going through.
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Posted 30 August 2017 - 03:10 PM

If you take a look at the fixtures there are a lot of potential defeats in September, but if we could just stay in touch with the rest, October's five matches could bring in some points - if we had a new manager settled in by then and the players we've got turned out to need only management rather than ability.

Could be that GC has us over an unusual barrel, such **** players that only he would want to manage them.
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Posted 30 August 2017 - 03:33 PM

Isn't Caldwell on double what Danny Wilson was and is Carsons 'baby' so to speak. He even picked him up personally from Sheffield station didn't he?!

Don't think DA/AC will let him go lightly...
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Posted 30 August 2017 - 03:37 PM

Caldwell is not going to get sacked even if he loses the next 5 games, i don't think the owner cares if we go down again or not..
all we are saying, is give us ...a goal, or 2+
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Posted 30 August 2017 - 03:39 PM

View Postspireitetoo, on 30 August 2017 - 03:37 PM, said:

Caldwell is not going to get sacked even if he loses the next 5 games, i don't think the owner cares if we go down again or not..


IF we did lose the next five league games, he'd be gone, I'm sure.
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Posted 30 August 2017 - 03:42 PM

View PostSpire-Heights, on 30 August 2017 - 03:39 PM, said:

IF we did lose the next five league games, he'd be gone, I'm sure.

I'm not carson brought him in to do a job, and i think he's doing whats expected of him, no other club would tolerate such failure.
all we are saying, is give us ...a goal, or 2+
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Posted 30 August 2017 - 03:45 PM

Well either way i'd expect to hear from da,carson or warner at least thursday with their thoughts on the situation.on radio sheff or derbystimes online.yet again the people concerned are the fans.if it was my business i'd be wanting to reassure my customers.already dreading going on saturday,its hard working trying to keep my boys being spireites.
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Posted 30 August 2017 - 03:46 PM

View Postspireitetoo, on 30 August 2017 - 03:42 PM, said:

and i think he's doing whats expected of him,


Really.
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Posted 30 August 2017 - 03:47 PM

View Postpeakblue, on 30 August 2017 - 03:45 PM, said:

Well either way i'd expect to hear from da,carson or warner at least thursday with their thoughts on the situation.on radio sheff or derbystimes online.yet again the people concerned are the fans.if it was my business i'd be wanting to reassure my customers.already dreading going on saturday,its hard working trying to keep my boys being spireites.

I dont think we will hear anything from any of them before or after the weekend to be honest. Perhaps try emailing Carson direct?
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Posted 30 August 2017 - 04:12 PM

definitely won't hear from DA !
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Posted 30 August 2017 - 04:37 PM

View Postspireitetoo, on 30 August 2017 - 03:42 PM, said:

I'm not carson brought him in to do a job, and i think he's doing whats expected of him, no other club would tolerate such failure.


I agree. Caldwell's job is completely secure for now unless attendances massively decline.
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Posted 30 August 2017 - 05:22 PM

View PostBlue roan lily, on 30 August 2017 - 02:54 PM, said:

So please,please Mr Carson think about the fans and what we're going through.

Give me strength.
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Posted 30 August 2017 - 05:33 PM

View PostSpire-Heights, on 30 August 2017 - 03:46 PM, said:

Really.

What da and ac expect.... yes
all we are saying, is give us ...a goal, or 2+
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Posted 30 August 2017 - 06:10 PM

View PostBlue5, on 30 August 2017 - 05:22 PM, said:

Give me strength.

If I'd got any you could have it !!!!!!
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