[danblue]

TBH, I'm not sure who is in or out of contract but I think off the top of my head out the current bunch I'd keep :

Dan Gardner, Jones (offer reduced terms), Hird (try fit him in the budget), Stukkie, McGinn, Nolan, Dion, Connor, Dennis.
German, Beesley and Rowley are signed up already I think.
I think this would be a good base for a team. Chuck in Mitchell who could improve, has pace and a decent cross

Release (being ruthless): Evo, Tommy (unless reduced trems and stays as number 2), SEB, Martinez, Simons
Raglan (possible squad player).
Don't keep any loanees

[Lincs Spireite]

Agree with most but not seen much of Beesley but what I have seen, seems a bit lightweight. Not sure about keeping Gardner either, he gives the ball away too many times.

Bring in a tough midfielder and a decent striker. With the budget being low it's not quantity it's quality we need. Would much prefer 3 decent players than 6 bang average.

[Search & Destroy]

Deff keep Dan Baller, him and Rowlers and we'll tear up L2 again.

[hewittfan]

danblue, on 10 April 2017 - 11:29 AM, said:

TBH, I'm not sure who is in or out of contract but I think off the top of my head out the current bunch I'd keep :

Dan Gardner, Jones (offer reduced terms), Hird (try fit him in the budget), Stukkie, McGinn, Nolan, Dion, Connor, Dennis.
German, Beesley and Rowley are signed up already I think.
I think this would be a good base for a team. Chuck in Mitchell who could improve, has pace and a decent cross

Release (being ruthless): Evo, Tommy (unless reduced trems and stays as number 2), SEB, Martinez, Simons
Raglan (possible squad player).
Don't keep any loanees

I'd offer new contracts to Jones, Stuckmann, Evatt, Maguire, Raglan and O'Shea (wouldn't expect the latter two to accept them!)
I would release Gardner, Ebanks-Blake, Martinez, Humphreys and Allinson.
Not sure about Simons, Beesley, Morrison, Graham and El Fitouri.
All the rest are already signed up I think for next year or beyond.

[brianclose]

I'd keep Simons he's an exciting player just needs polishing up a bit.

Would only keep Gardner on vastly reduced terms but I expect he'd be one of the better wingers/midfielders in L2.

Beesley can go for me.

Stuckers has done enough to claim the No 1 jersey at the start of next season regardless of Tommy returning to full fitness. Sad to say but I feel more secure with Stuckers in the net that I often did when Tommy was playing.

[Sammy Spireite]

In reality, anybody who is out of contract this summer and 'worth keeping' will probably have interest from elsewhere.

IF (and it is a genuine IF) the rumours of GC's treatment of certain players is true then you can understand any player wanting to move on, even to another L2 club paying similar wages.

If you had the chance to move to another company, do the same job you do now, for roughly the same money, or stay at your existing company (that has a very uncertain future) what would you do?

I fear the reduce budget for next season will be shown by the quality of signings we make in the summer, and I'm really not looking forward to next season.

[brianclose]

I fear the reduce budget for next season will be shown by the quality of signings we make in the summer, and I'm really not looking forward to next season.
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Agree to an extent, but I think we saw some serious potential from Rowley on Saturday that he could be the kind of box to box, energetic creative midfielder we've been crying out for for a while (no pressure lad).

[SpireiteFitzy]

Id get rid of most of them and just start again. We seem to accept a culture of failure at this club now and all these players are responsible for the completely dire season we have had and to reward a lot of them with new contracts sends out the wrong message. Stuckmann has impressed and deserves one. Jones and Mcginn need to prove their fitness first cause we can't afford passengers on the treatment table. The rest OOC I really wouldn't be fussed about if they left.

[JonB]

Mcginn contracted for another season?

[dtp]

On the basis that only one of the six GC signings has made any sort of contribution there will be budget savings when the other five reach the end of their deals.

Add to this inJanuary, we reduced the budget quite significantly by moving Liddle, O'Neil and O'Shea on.

Bigger earners like SEB, Evatt, Jones, Martinez etc contracts are up and I think only Evatt will be offered anything and that will be on reduced terms.

Of the rest, most are youngsters and not on big money. I would seriously consider keeping most of the OOC young ones as most have now been blooded in the first team and not let us down. More importantly, we need a squad and these young ones will not cost the earth.

Any money left should be spent on introducing some height and brawn into defence, midfield and attack.

[Sammy Spireite]

dtp, on 10 April 2017 - 02:53 PM, said:

On the basis that only one of the six GC signings has made any sort of contribution there will be budget savings when the other five reach the end of their deals.

Which is worrying considering the same manager will be bringing in at least twice that number of 'his signings'.

[another fine mess]

Definitely not, clear the decks completely, carried too many passengers in the past few years, get rid.

Rowley yes, but I think he will be on his way soon to pastures new.

[moondog]

JonB, on 10 April 2017 - 02:17 PM, said:

Mcginn contracted for another season?

Yes

[danblue]

another fine mess, on 10 April 2017 - 04:12 PM, said:

Definitely not, clear the decks completely, carried too many passengers in the past few years, get rid.

Rowley yes, but I think he will be on his way soon to pastures new.

It's prob just the start of many rumours, but I was told Everton were sniffing around Rowley
To which I replied "after only 3 games" lol

[danblue]

SpireiteFitzy, on 10 April 2017 - 01:57 PM, said:

Id get rid of most of them and just start again. We seem to accept a culture of failure at this club now and all these players are responsible for the completely dire season we have had and to reward a lot of them with new contracts sends out the wrong message. Stuckmann has impressed and deserves one. Jones and Mcginn need to prove their fitness first cause we can't afford passengers on the treatment table. The rest OOC I really wouldn't be fussed about if they left.

McGinn' s lungs were hanging out his mouth on Saturday. Really needs to get his fitness up but will do well for us when he's there

[Lincs Spireite]

another fine mess, on 10 April 2017 - 04:12 PM, said:

Definitely not, clear the decks completely, carried too many passengers in the past few years, get rid.

Rowley yes, but I think he will be on his way soon to pastures new.

The problem with clearing the decks completely is you may be getting rid of some rubbish but with our slashed budget

you will only be getting more rubbish in. It really doesn't look good next season with understandably big big reductions in season ticket sales.

[JonB]

danblue, on 10 April 2017 - 04:21 PM, said:

It's prob just the start of many rumours, but I was told Everton were sniffing around Rowley
To which I replied "after only 3 games" lol

Big clubs with massive scouting networks will be aware of promising youngsters for ages. Probably watched him in youth & reserve team games.

[hewittfan]

dtp, on 10 April 2017 - 02:53 PM, said:

On the basis that only one of the six GC signings has made any sort of contribution there will be budget savings when the other five reach the end of their deals.

Add to this inJanuary, we reduced the budget quite significantly by moving Liddle, O'Neil and O'Shea on.

Bigger earners like SEB, Evatt, Jones, Martinez etc contracts are up and I think only Evatt will be offered anything and that will be on reduced terms.

Of the rest, most are youngsters and not on big money. I would seriously consider keeping most of the OOC young ones as most have now been blooded in the first team and not let us down. More importantly, we need a squad and these young ones will not cost the earth.

Any money left should be spent on introducing some height and brawn into defence, midfield and attack.

With the reduced budget that we're facing, every cost has to be justified. no matter how small. I think that the your "young ones" should only be kept if they're going to be a serious contender for the match day squad come August.

I think with the three announced today we're up to 14 under contract for next year now, so how many spots does that leave, six or seven, maybe eight? The following out of contract players (excluding loanees) were in the squad on Saturday, so in effect, these are the current places that are up for grabs:

Simons, Martinez, Jones, SEB, Gardner, Beesley, Maguire, Stuckmann

Plus the injured Evatt of course.

[dim view]

danblue, on 10 April 2017 - 11:29 AM, said:

TBH, I'm not sure who is in or out of contract but I think off the top of my head out the current bunch I'd keep :

That Mark Smith fella is a fighter. I'd keep him.
That Carson though has no back bone. I'd release him immediately.

[The Earl of Chesterfield]

Any discussion regarding those staying or going must be placed in the context of who'll replace them.

Caldwell's January recruitment was embarrassing, with only Stuckman looking worthwhile whilst the rest barely make the bench in a relegation doomed squad. Meanwhile rumours of targets snubbing him because of previous relationships persist.

Then there're huge question marks over Branston's record at Notts - and I'm already hearing disturbing rumours of their players now being linked with us!

I just hope they're not allowed to 'do a Saunders' between 'em - leaving whoever has to tidy-up their mess with less than nothing to work with.