[Walton Spireite]

Doughnut, on 15 April 2017 - 12:59 PM, said:

Yes, but no doubt you were claiming this the season we won promotion to Div 1. You see, if you post C**p all the time to wind folk up, when you do make a sensible post, it is assumed you're being your usual provocative self, posting for 'effect' as opposed to making a sensible suggestion.

These aren't wind up posts. Conference North is my prediction now.

[another fine mess]

Well according to Caldwell and his " Hoppo " Recruitment Officer, they will be looking to sign the " better players " from non league football, and added to the rammel which will still be here doesn't forebode well for the future.

Surely anyone must know that some journeymen with 1st Div experience are required to have a reasonable challenge on promotion, you never know there may be some surplus players at Mr Cooks Portsmouth.

[Spireite-Karl]

another fine mess, on 15 April 2017 - 04:44 PM, said:

Well according to Caldwell and his " Hoppo " Recruitment Officer, they will be looking to sign the " better players " from non league football, and added to the rammel which will still be here doesn't forebode well for the future.

Surely anyone must know that some journeymen with 1st Div experience are required to have a reasonable challenge on promotion, you never know there may be some surplus players at Mr Cooks Portsmouth.

There may well be, but we won't be able to afford them. We will struggle for Mansfield's cast offs, that's how low we'll be scraping imo.

[Westbars Spireite]

jack bauer, on 15 April 2017 - 03:20 PM, said:

yesterday phil brown showed Caldwell up completely, brown knew exactly how to play us and it worked and at no point did Caldwell think to himself I need to change this or we'll get battered and oh what happened, not for the first time either, next season could be more of the same.

We're so easy to walk through that it takes zero thought to deal with us. A bang average side without any coach, manager or whatever would take about five minutes to realise what they needed to do.

[The Earl of Chesterfield]

jack bauer, on 15 April 2017 - 03:20 PM, said:

yesterday phil brown showed Caldwell up completely, brown knew exactly how to play us and it worked and at no point did Caldwell think to himself I need to change this or we'll get battered and oh what happened, not for the first time either, next season could be more of the same.

A conversation with one of the Southend entourage made depressing listening.

He said we're far too easy to play against having no presence or pace to threaten and no quality in midfield to provide options. Subsequently when our 'keeper passes to a defender, as he's been instructed, that defender's no choice but to go long. Apparently SUFC were told to simply press us high up the pitch knowing we'd repeatedly give the ball away.

The chap added that any half decent manager would say the same, it'll be no different in L2 and alleged Caldwell's a reputation for being too arrogant to admit he's wrong.

Sadly, I couldn't argue with a word of it.

[Lincs Spireite]

Spireite-Karl, on 15 April 2017 - 04:50 PM, said:

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There may well be, but we won't be able to afford them. We will struggle for Mansfield's cast offs, that's how low we'll be scraping imo.

Typical catch 22 situation. Drop in season ticket sales because of poor performances on the pitch, hence lower budget to recruit decent players,

therefore conference players and cast offs, followed by poor performances on the pitch, followed by falling attendances etc, etc. etc , you get the picture.

Our only hope is a new owner will give us a good playing budget to get decent quality players and a decent manager.

[Guest_freelander2_*]

Bowzer spirey, on 16 April 2017 - 08:19 AM, said:

Typical catch 22 situation. Drop in season ticket sales because of poor performances on the pitch, hence lower budget to recruit decent players,

therefore conference players and cast offs, followed by poor performances on the pitch, followed by falling attendances etc, etc. etc , you get the picture.

Our only hope is a new owner will give us a good playing budget to get decent quality players and a decent manager.

Would a significant decline really be about performances on the pitch and the cost of buying a season ticket?

We've had poor seasons before which have seen us relegated, this season our problems go much, much deeper than that.

Forget the playing budget and forget season ticket sales, we need fit & proper people running this club to restore confidence and in doing so, supporters will return and buy into the project.

[Lincs Spireite]

freelander2, on 16 April 2017 - 08:55 AM, said:

Would a significant decline really be about performances on the pitch and the cost of buying a season ticket?

We've had poor seasons before which have seen us relegated, this season our problems go much, much deeper than that.

Forget the playing budget and forget season ticket sales, we need fit & proper people running this club to restore confidence and in doing so, supporters will return and buy into the project.

I accept what you say, which is why I mentioned ' new owner', but the other comments are still very relevant.

[h again]

dim view, on 15 April 2017 - 12:53 PM, said:

I am reserving judgement. Carson has a 100% record of failure on everybody he has recruited at CFC and it is easy to apply that predictive pattern to GC before he deserves it. During GC's tenure, Carson has managed to f**k up the Academy, the pies, the sacking of Turner, the recruitment of his successor, the credit rating, programme pricing, season ticket pricing, an investigation into serious allegations that he has known about for months, fans forums, and much more. It doesn't seem fair to me to be criticising anybody under Carson at the club until he himself gets it in the teeth.
On balance I think there is a good chance GC can stop the rot if he gets the promised top six budget. One thing in his favour.....he certainly has the temperament to tell Allen where to stick it if he doesn't keep his promise. Let's start as we mean to go on and have the clear out on Tuesday.

Good stuff, as ever. One disaster might be a misfortune - when they get into double figures even I start to wonder.

On the subject of Coldwell I'm veering towards the gloomy side, but still think it would be a mistake to write him off just yet. Arrogantly sticking to lousy tactics - or having the courage of his convictions with an eye to the future? On the vexed subject of playing the ball out from the back it's obvious it isn't working, but what's the alternative? Go long and see it come straight back because we can't win 'owt in the air is the alternative. The system isn't at fault, it's the people playing it who're the problem, and why they weren't strengthened by players who could make it work, instead of lightweights, is the big question. Who signed them? - if it was GC we've got problems. Personally I'm keeping an open mind.

[ELTON 2020]

The Black Triangle, on 15 April 2017 - 02:24 PM, said:

Working with Danny Wilsons tools : would Wilson, with the return to fitness of McGinn Jones and Martinez have won just 2 games out of 16?
Wilson won more points per game, with players like Liam Graham in the side.
Wilsons tools? Caldwell signed 6 players in the transfer window. He could have played them all as 2 were signed and 4 were loans. That's over half of the starting 11 and yet we see how many make the pitch? It does not bode well.
His style of play isn't suitable for lower league players. They are not good enough. Yet he persists with it. It's easy to counter. Press high up the pitch, and force us to go long. Get the midfielders into the channels, press with full backs onto our midfield wide men and press us into making mistakes, which our players will do as they are lacking the skills and quality to play his "Man City" out from the back game.
Wilson played 3 at the back a few times, or maybe a 5 depending on how you view it. But he had players in almost recognisable positions. Donahue Hird Evatt Anderson Liddle/Graham. Not grimshaw, not Mitchell. because they are not defensive players.
The most damning thing about caldwells tactical noise is this - using the player who is most likely to give the ball away, in a defensive midfield role. No way on gods earth is Gardner a defensive midfielder. Not while he has a whole in his backside will he be a defensive midfielder.

For me, its the forsward line who are just as much to blame. Dennis is a shocking league 1 player. Yes he nicks a few but his touch and physical presence are conference north standard. I was at Alfreton v Dalrington and Darlos players were much better - ok they only had conference defenders after them but Dennis is not part of a winning team in my book.

[Ernie Ernie Ernie]

Walton Spireite, on 15 April 2017 - 06:54 AM, said:

A lot of deluded peopleLuton and Rovers are miles bigger than us. Town are heading for the conference been saying it for a long time. The trend is there.

Ye but 2 of the times you said it we won the league

[ELTON 2020]

MDCCCLXVI, on 16 April 2017 - 07:25 AM, said:

A conversation with one of the Southend entourage made depressing listening.

He said we're far too easy to play against having no presence or pace to threaten and no quality in midfield to provide options. Subsequently when our 'keeper passes to a defender, as he's been instructed, that defender's no choice but to go long. Apparently SUFC were told to simply press us high up the pitch knowing we'd repeatedly give the ball away.

The chap added that any half decent manager would say the same, it'll be no different in L2 and alleged Caldwell's a reputation for being too arrogant to admit he's wrong.

Sadly, I couldn't argue with a word of it.

Sadly, it's coming over that way. Wasn't Johnny Duncan "arrogant" in the same manner? I recall him saying he was just as single-minded as ever when he started his second spell on '93. He had a pretty torrid time - losing 5-0 at Rochdale to put us near the bottom of League 2 but then he re-signed Jamie Hewitt - and the rest as they say.....

[ELTON 2020]

h again, on 16 April 2017 - 10:26 AM, said:

Good stuff, as ever. One disaster might be a misfortune - when they get into double figures even I start to wonder.

On the subject of Coldwell I'm veering towards the gloomy side, but still think it would be a mistake to write him off just yet. Arrogantly sticking to lousy tactics - or having the courage of his convictions with an eye to the future? On the vexed subject of playing the ball out from the back it's obvious it isn't working, but what's the alternative? Go long and see it come straight back because we can't win 'owt in the air is the alternative. The system isn't at fault, it's the people playing it who're the problem, and why they weren't strengthened by players who could make it work, instead of lightweights, is the big question. Who signed them? - if it was GC we've got problems. Personally I'm keeping an open mind.

I can't believe the lightweight unskilled dross we have at the club - I'm not in the mindset of naming individuals but right through the team on the pitch to the reserves. We have Wilson signings on 2 year contracts so it'll be more of the same for a while....

[clarevoyant.]

Elton John 1866, on 16 April 2017 - 12:51 PM, said:

For me, its the forsward line who are just as much to blame. Dennis is a shocking league 1 player. Yes he nicks a few but his touch and physical presence are conference north standard. I was at Alfreton v Dalrington and Darlos players were much better - ok they only had conference defenders after them but Dennis is not part of a winning team in my book.

That was a rare occurrence when 2 consecutive throw ins where thrown straight out for goal kicks.

I think if Dennis had played for Darlington he would have had an hat full their finishing was dire

[ELTON 2020]

clarevoyant., on 16 April 2017 - 01:33 PM, said:

That was a rare occurrence when 2 consecutive throw ins where thrown straight out for goal kicks.

I think if Dennis had played for Darlington he would have had an hat full their finishing was dire

Maybe - there's the usual rumours about John Stead coming in next season. Dennis is a finisher - I'll give him that but not a lone forward. He needs someone to take the weight then we might - might have a player.

[Wooden Spoon]

h again said:

1492338405[/url]' post='1295986']Good stuff, as ever. One disaster might be a misfortune - when they get into double figures even I start to wonder.

Does this mean you no longer believe " CFC is a well run business that is down to the CEO"


or that


"the CEO is running rings around everyone and keeping those high flying accountants in the dark"?



If so, it's about time you issued an apology to those who exposed this scandalous activity - you know, the very same people you have bad mouthed and sneered at from behind your computer screen.

This post has been edited by a kick in the balls: 16 April 2017 - 03:04 PM

[BlueDay]

MDCCCLXVI, on 15 April 2017 - 11:52 AM, said:

Cook instilled a purpose and pattern almost from day one, falling only one win short of the play offs despite inheriting a relatively ordinary squad.

Caldwell's done the opposite.

Agreed - you could sense the building taking place - he knew what he was doing.

[h again]

a kick in the balls, on 16 April 2017 - 02:47 PM, said:

Does this mean you no longer believe " CFC is a well run business that is down to the CEO"


or that


"the CEO is running rings around everyone and keeping those high flying accountants in the dark"?



If so, it's about time you issued an apology to those who exposed this scandalous activity - you know, the very same people you have bad mouthed and sneered at from behind your computer screen.

Putting quotation marks round rubbish doesn't mean anything, except that you're a very sad person, but I think most people will have worked that out by now.
As always, produce the actual posts and let's see what you're up to.

[Wooden Spoon]

h again, on 16 April 2017 - 07:05 PM, said:

Putting quotation marks round rubbish doesn't mean anything As always, produce the actual posts and let's see what you're up to.

h again, on 21 January 2015 - 11:06 PM, said:

Well, since he took over he's managed to sign an outstanding manager from right out of the blue, he's completely revolutionised the clubs non-playing structure, he's acquired a scouting and youth training set-up second to none at this level and some way above, and done it all without increasing the debt to anything unmanageable or even significantly higher. That's a quick list off the top of my head - you can probably think of many other improvements. I don't attribute the current success to any one individual, but at the side of all that the pages of whingeing about ticket sales and a clerical error in player registration is irrelevant. By any measure that I can see we're a successful business - it doesn't come through luck.

h again, on 22 January 2015 - 07:09 PM, said:

As for all the other points, which are probably even more important in the long term, it's all CEO territory - the club has been completely re-vamped, not just in personnel but in its outlook. Change doesn't just happen, it has to be driven through against obstacles, and that's the CEO's job.
But the basic question has to be - is the club successful at this moment and in comparison with similar businesses? Well, it looks pretty successful to me, in fact it looks to have the infrastructure of a Championship outfit, quite apart from the football credentials, which transformation I'm sure was in CT's brief from the start.
So successful club - credit to the CEO.

h again, on 20 February 2016 - 08:07 PM, said:

Well, just returning after a few days to this thread it seems that the CEO has run rings round all the high-flying accountants on here once again

Not very good at this denial of previous comments are you..

This post has been edited by a kick in the balls: 16 April 2017 - 08:33 PM

[Walton Spireite]

Ernie Ernie Ernie, on 16 April 2017 - 12:53 PM, said:

Ye but 2 of the times you said it we won the league

Incorrect. I notice that you have gone quite on this one. I think you should have the decency to admit that I have been proved to be correct.