[brockwell-spireite]

The latest club to turn down the JPT invite as they send their young players out on loan... What a joke... And a kick in the teeth for the idiots who dreamt this up... Without city, United, Arsenal, Chelsea and Spurs it has to be dead in the water!

[Johnnyspireite7]

brockwell-spireite, on 11 July 2016 - 05:37 PM, said:

The latest club to turn down the JPT invite as they send their young players out on loan... What a joke... And a kick in the teeth for the idiots who dreamt this up... Without city, United, Arsenal, Chelsea and Spurs it has to be dead in the water!

Still reckon they want to be looking the other way down the football ladder if they want to invite teams to play, would give most of the league fans somewhere new to go to and give the National League teams an idea what they face if they come up. It would also make the advent of 'League 3' without the 'b'/U21 teams a reality.

[brockwell-spireite]

Johnnyspireite7, on 11 July 2016 - 05:41 PM, said:

Still reckon they want to be looking the other way down the football ladder if they want to invite teams to play, would give most of the league fans somewhere new to go to and give the National League teams an idea what they face if they come up. It would also make the advent of 'League 3' without the 'b'/U21 teams a reality.

Wasn't it the prem teams pushing for this as part of competitive games etc and Gregg Dykes talks of 'B' teams like in Spain..seems like the clubs themselves weren't that bothered!

[Johnnyspireite7]

brockwell-spireite, on 11 July 2016 - 05:48 PM, said:

Wasn't it the prem teams pushing for this as part of competitive games etc and Gregg Dykes talks of 'B' teams like in Spain..seems like the clubs themselves weren't that bothered!

I think it was the FA & the Premier League hierarchy, but they forgot to ask the clubs!!!!!

[Sammy Spireite]

So far only Southampton, Stoke, Sunderland and Swansea have said they will accept their invitation.

It's thought that other clubs down the pyramid with Cat 1 academies will be invited to take the spare places.

Might we get to enter two teams then??

Johnnyspireite7, on 11 July 2016 - 05:54 PM, said:

I think it was the FA & the Premier League hierarchy, but they forgot to ask the clubs!!!!!

According to the Man City statement, the early round fixture dates clash with U21 international dates.

No wonder the top teams aren't interested.

[Tha Knows...]

Sammy Spireite, on 11 July 2016 - 06:11 PM, said:

So far only Southampton, Stoke, Sunderland and Swansea have said they will accept their invitation.

It's thought that other clubs down the pyramid with Cat 1 academies will be invited to take the spare places.

Might we get to enter two teams then??


According to the Man City statement, the early round fixture dates clash with U21 international dates.

No wonder the top teams aren't interested.

Surely for a few extra quid the PL under-21 teams could be given a bye past the early round?

This post has been edited by Spire-Power: 11 July 2016 - 07:06 PM

[valemadness]

Sammy Spireite, on 11 July 2016 - 06:11 PM, said:

So far only Southampton, Stoke, Sunderland and Swansea have said they will accept their invitation.

It's thought that other clubs down the pyramid with Cat 1 academies will be invited to take the spare places.

Might we get to enter two teams then??


According to the Man City statement, the early round fixture dates clash with U21 international dates.

No wonder the top teams aren't interested.

U21's have euro qualifiers and seniors have world cup qualifiers at the times of the 3 1st round dates......

[metallilad]

Johnnyspireite7, on 11 July 2016 - 05:41 PM, said:

Still reckon they want to be looking the other way down the football ladder if they want to invite teams to play, would give most of the league fans somewhere new to go to and give the National League teams an idea what they face if they come up. It would also make the advent of 'League 3' without the 'b'/U21 teams a reality.

It was just a rate bad idea that Dyke came up with trying to develop youth for England. to go down the pyramid isn't an option because unless there's a future 23 man England squad there then nobody would benefit.
It's just demeaning a competition that is truly our only chance of winning a knockout trophy at Wembley. Dyke is turning out to be another joke. Coming up with hairbrained ideas but not even consulting the clubs that we don't want in the competition and ultimately aren't wanting to enter anyway. It's an all mighty great cock up that could possibly end up with a league one team with two teams entered into it.
F**kin businessmen should stop looking at the "product" and start looking at the sport.

This post has been edited by metallilad: 11 July 2016 - 07:30 PM

[lindave]

Spire-Power, on 11 July 2016 - 07:06 PM, said:

Surely for a few extra quid the PL under-21 teams could be given a bye past the early round?

Sod em, the JPT should be for the lower leagues only with possibly National League teams invited.

[Maddog Tannen]

I think should definately just be for lower league teams and also shake it up a bit and add an extra incentive by allowing the winner to join the 1st qualifying round of the Europa Cup/League.

[azul]

Stokespireite, on 12 July 2016 - 07:25 AM, said:

I think should definately just be for lower league teams and also shake it up a bit and add an extra incentive by allowing the winner to join the 1st qualifying round of the Europa Cup/League.

You don't think that would devalue an already rubbish competition.

Now where have I heard that complaint before?

[metallilad]

Stokespireite, on 12 July 2016 - 07:25 AM, said:

I think should definately just be for lower league teams and also shake it up a bit and add an extra incentive by allowing the winner to join the 1st qualifying round of the Europa Cup/League.

the problem with that is the possibility of Accrington winning the cup they will need to spend the profits on a trip abroad. A bye through to the third round of the Fa cup would be more of a prize.

[Spireite Stone]

If the idea is to improve the England National Team, instead of removing the emergency loan window, have it so that only players that are eligible to play the England National Team are able to be loaned outside of the transfer window and that the parent club (If premier league) must pay the players wages in full.

This post has been edited by Spireite Stone: 12 July 2016 - 10:19 AM

[JonB]

Spireite Stone, on 12 July 2016 - 10:18 AM, said:

If the idea is to improve the England National Team, instead of removing the emergency loan window, have it so that only players that are eligible to play the England National Team are able to be loaned outside of the transfer window and that the parent club (If premier league) must pay the players wages in full.

FIFA wont allow any moves outside the transfer window hence why its been stopped so that part couldnt happen.

[DIFH]

Stokespireite, on 12 July 2016 - 07:25 AM, said:

I think should definately just be for lower league teams and also shake it up a bit and add an extra incentive by allowing the winner to join the 1st qualifying round of the Europa Cup/League.

The new loan systen makes this competion redundant on so many levels.

[azul]

Dave In Footie Heaven, on 12 July 2016 - 10:57 AM, said:

The new loan systen makes this competion redundant on so many levels.

Unless you are carrying a bigger squad. More players mean more don't get competitive games

Not arguing for it just pointing out an alternative view

[S43_Spireite]

Let the Prem U21 Teams play in a Premier League JPT and then the winners of that can play the winners of the JPT (or whatever it's called) pre-season, like the Charity Shield