[Tha Knows...]

I'd like to think the numerous embarrassing issues have ended and we might be able to move on soon ....

[dim view]

Spire-Power, on 17 July 2017 - 09:03 PM, said:

I'd like to think the numerous embarrassing issues have ended and we might be able to move on soon ....

Ah, the manifesto of the Ashley Carson Party having the desired effect.

You raise an important point though. I, and I would have thought the others who represented Bob's Boarders, do need to know that Bob's Boarders want us to carry on. If people are getting bored and want us to drop it in the perceived long term interests of CFC, then they should say so. My personal position is that I have no doubt that nothing has changed. The new half time draw, for example, leaves me cold. Who is running it now that one of the few employees who I would fully trust has retired? Who is auditing it? Who says what the direct deductible costs are?

[Tha Knows...]

I'm not saying everything is ok now, more an expression of hope that lessons have been learned and the club will be run better in future. Maybe it will maybe it won't. Is there evidence of corruption 're the draw?

[dim view]

Spire-Power, on 18 July 2017 - 07:18 AM, said:

I'm not saying everything is ok now, more an expression of hope that lessons have been learned and the club will be run better in future. Maybe it will maybe it won't. Is there evidence of corruption 're the draw?

Of course not.
There's no evidence of the auditing procedure either. One thing in it's favour I suppose is that the prize money should within reason be directly proportional to the crowd figure.

[Tha Knows...]

Huge credit goes to those members of the forum who have exposed wrongdoing at the club. Long may it continue. I hope there will be nothing to expose in future and we can move on to better times in the running of our club. The fact is we are stuck with DA and A.C. until the day someone gives DA what he wants. We can't control it, unfortunately.

[dim view]

Spire-Power, on 18 July 2017 - 07:46 AM, said:

The fact is we are stuck with DA and A.C. until the day someone gives DA what he wants. We can't control it, unfortunately.

Yesterday's tactic was to use Turner to front a cloud of mystery in all corners of the club.

Today's tactic is to generate a front of respectability in all corners of the club.

Carson will allow supporters to see all the accounts except those we want to see. That one act of openness might well turn the situation to his favour. He's frit.

[Tha Knows...]

dim view, on 18 July 2017 - 07:02 AM, said:

Ah, the manifesto of the Ashley Carson Party having the desired effect.

You raise an important point though. I, and I would have thought the others who represented Bob's Boarders, do need to know that Bob's Boarders want us to carry on. If people are getting bored and want us to drop it in the perceived long term interests of CFC, then they should say so. My personal position is that I have no doubt that nothing has changed. The new half time draw, for example, leaves me cold. Who is running it now that one of the few employees who I would fully trust has retired? Who is auditing it? Who says what the direct deductible costs are?

While I hope you are not suggesting I am a member of the A.C. Party I didn't neg your post. I'd like the person who I suspect negged me for saying DA' s policy (of increasing the debt to him) is out of our control to explain why this is not the case!

[dim view]

Spire-Power, on 18 July 2017 - 08:06 AM, said:

While I hope you are not suggesting I am a member of the A.C. Party I didn't neg your post.

Not at all.

I have never negged or possed anybody. I don't know how to do it.

[Spireite-Karl]

dim view, on 18 July 2017 - 08:13 AM, said:

Not at all.

I have never negged or possed anybody. I don't know how to do it.

You come across as quite an intelligent person and you frequent these boards most/every day, with over thirteen and a half thousand posts to your name and you can't work out how to use the simplest plus and minus facility?? Sorry, I'm not buying it

[brianclose]

dim view, on 18 July 2017 - 08:13 AM, said:

Not at all.

I have never negged or possed anybody. I don't know how to do it.

Definitely negged a few of mine in your time!

[Sammy Spireite]

dim view, on 18 July 2017 - 07:02 AM, said:

The new half time draw, for example, leaves me cold. Who is running it now that one of the few employees who I would fully trust has retired? Who is auditing it? Who says what the direct deductible costs are?

I understood Janice was still working match days to run the draw so no reason, for me, to doubt the integrity of it.

Presumably, the restructure has been done to cover the cost of Janice whereas previously, her salary would have been covered by the club.

[dim view]

brianclose, on 18 July 2017 - 10:24 AM, said:

Definitely negged a few of mine in your time!

I most definitely have not. I have never investigated how to do it but I would never have considered yours worth the effort anyway.

Spireite-Karl, on 18 July 2017 - 10:18 AM, said:

You come across as quite an intelligent person and you frequent these boards most/every day, with over thirteen and a half thousand posts to your name and you can't work out how to use the simplest plus and minus facility?? Sorry, I'm not buying it

I'm a virgin. It's not that I can't, it's that I don't want to.

[The Earl of Chesterfield]

Spire-Power, on 18 July 2017 - 07:18 AM, said:

I'm not saying everything is ok now, more an expression of hope that lessons have been learned and the club will be run better in future. Maybe it will maybe it won't. Is there evidence of corruption 're the draw?

It's only a few months since Carson was forced to admit at least one bid had been received for the Club despite telling shareholders otherwise.

And that's after discrepancies were found in his account of 'FBT's' takeover of the CFCFDS.

Next he hired what many might describe as a crony for the kit man gig allegedly on better terms than someone with actual experience in that role. Their respective version of events failed to tally.

Then we discovered that far from arriving on a season long loan as part of the Evans' sale, as AC had claimed credit for, Brooks was only coming for six months then not at all.

We've since witnessed what I'm gonna call 'Profanitygate', when the Company Secretary appeared to use the ugliest of four letter words during an exchange with a fan before seeming to celebrate calling a fifteen year old a tw*t simply for 'liking' a critical comment. For the record he claimed his account had been hacked though folk who know far more about social media than myself found that utterly incredible.

I'd also remind everyone of 'Freelander 2' receiving threats to his family following his stance against corruption and mismanagement.

So have lessons been learned?

Well maybe Ashley Carson can tell us how much Rodger Wylde's recent exit cost CFC...

This post has been edited by MDCCCLXVI: 18 July 2017 - 02:49 PM

[Westbars Spireite]

MDCCCLXVI, on 18 July 2017 - 02:11 PM, said:

It's only a few months since Carson was forced to admit at least one bid had been received for the Club despite telling shareholders otherwise.

And that's after discrepancies were found in his account of 'FBT's' takeover of the CFCFDS.

Next he hired what many might describe as a crony for the kit man gig allegedly on better terms than someone with actual experience in that role. Their respective versions of events failed to tally.

Then we discovered that far from arriving on a season long loan as part of Evan's sale, as AC had claimed credit for, Brooks was only coming for six months then not at all.

We've since witnessed what I'm gonna call 'Profanitygate', when the Company Secretary appeared to use the ugliest of four letter words during an exchange with a fan before seeming to celebrate calling a fifteen year old a tw*t simply for 'liking' a critical comment. For the record he claimed his account had been hacked though folk who know far more about social media than myself found that utterly incredible.

I'd also remind everyone of 'Freelander 2' receiving threats to his family following his stance against corruption and mismanagement.

So have lessons been learned?

Well maybe Ashley Carson can tell us how much Rodger Wylde's recent exit cost CFC...

Some people do seem to need this sort of reminder. The likes of the chap on that other general football forum who quite wonderfully believes in everyone's good side. The 'fingers in ears' type as you'd possibly refer to them.

There are plenty of people who know all the above and their choice is to put it all to one side in favour of supporting the side and putting cash into the club. That I'm absolutely fine with.

The other stance is rather bewildering.

[calvin plummers socks]

MDCCCLXVI, on 18 July 2017 - 02:11 PM, said:

It's only a few months since Carson was forced to admit at least one bid had been received for the Club despite telling shareholders otherwise.

And that's after discrepancies were found in his account of 'FBT's' takeover of the CFCFDS.

Next he hired what many might describe as a crony for the kit man gig allegedly on better terms than someone with actual experience in that role. Their respective version of events failed to tally.

Then we discovered that far from arriving on a season long loan as part of the Evans' sale, as AC had claimed credit for, Brooks was only coming for six months then not at all.

We've since witnessed what I'm gonna call 'Profanitygate', when the Company Secretary appeared to use the ugliest of four letter words during an exchange with a fan before seeming to celebrate calling a fifteen year old a tw*t simply for 'liking' a critical comment. For the record he claimed his account had been hacked though folk who know far more about social media than myself found that utterly incredible.

I'd also remind everyone of 'Freelander 2' receiving threats to his family following his stance against corruption and mismanagement.

So have lessons been learned?

Well maybe Ashley Carson can tell us how much Rodger Wylde's recent exit cost CFC...

He must have some serious dirt on DA to still be employed! What other employer would retain such incompetence?

[Westbars Spireite]

calvin plummers socks, on 18 July 2017 - 03:37 PM, said:

He must have some serious dirt on DA to still be employed! What other employer would retain such incompetence?

He doing exactly what DA wants. There's really nothing more to it as I see it. This is not your usual employer/employee relationship.

[Dreamweaver]

Westbars Spireite, on 18 July 2017 - 04:27 PM, said:

He doing exactly what DA wants. There's really nothing more to it as I see it. This is not your usual employer/employee relationship.

He/s probably Dave Allen's "Love Child".

[The Earl of Chesterfield]

'Moondog'?

Hopefully you can get Ashley to clear-up summat that's never been even remotely explained.

Those former CFCFDS employees who've so often been proven correct also claimed the accountant for that enterprise was at their wits end because they couldn't gain access to all the accounts.

However AC recently told us he'd had full access to those accounts despite being nothing to do with the business.

Could you pass this question onto him, please?

Thanks.

[moondog]

MDCCCLXVI, on 20 July 2017 - 11:23 AM, said:

'Moondog'?

Hopefully you can get Ashley to clear-up summat that's never been even remotely explained.

Those former CFCFDS employees who've so often been proven correct also claimed the accountant for that enterprise was at their wits end because they couldn't gain access to all the accounts.

However AC recently told us he'd had full access to those accounts despite being nothing to do with the business.

Could you pass this question onto him, please?

Thanks.

Do I assume the question is why wasn't access to all of the accounts provided to the companies original accountant ?

[FORZA AZZURRI]

moondog, on 20 July 2017 - 11:34 AM, said:

Do I assume the question is why wasn't access to all of the accounts provided to the companies original accountant ?

I hope you guys are going to the QA... would be good to clear up a few things!