[Cactoise]

freelander2, on 06 September 2016 - 09:20 AM, said:

http://www.derbyshir...eites-1-8107190

You couldn't make it up

[Forever a Spireite]

I haven't posted much recently and have laid off Turnipe to be fair ! I thought it was reasonable to see if Zorro could move things forwards. Things are moving backwards and we still have Turnipe in charge of this shambles. I dread to think what is going to happen next to this once reputable football club.

[shaun1866]

Forever a Spireite, on 06 September 2016 - 11:02 AM, said:

I haven't posted much recently and have laid off Turnipe to be fair ! I thought it was reasonable to see if Zorro could move things forwards. Things are moving backwards and we still have Turnipe in charge of this shambles. I dread to think what is going to happen next to this once reputable football club.

See if he is as quick to reply or like my last tweet asking if it is going to happen as patience is wearing thin

[Zorro]

freelander2, on 06 September 2016 - 09:20 AM, said:

http://www.derbyshir...eites-1-8107190

I was unaware of this until it was posted in the forum but I don't like it when fans try to trip CFC up and the DT publish something without checking thoroughly. I'm all for exposing scandals and bad practices but I have made a few phone calls over the CCJ which still shows on the Experian reports.

Fans can believe what they want and who to believe, but having spoken to AC (who is on holiday abroad atm) I can report the following from Ashley

CFC have NO debts.
CFC are financially healthy atm and can pay any suppliers.
The CCJ relates to the PPP & NOT CFC (2001) Ltd.
The CCJ is an old debt which related to a van hire company that was based in Chesterfield.
An agreement was made between the PPP & the hire company to pay the debt off in instalments and payments were made regularly to pay the debt off.
Shorts, the accountants have replied that the debt was paid in full and is not outstanding.
The hire company office closed in Chesterfield but the payments were kept up.
AC and Shorts are stating that it is an administration error by the hire company and the CCJ is not justified.
The club have requested that the CCJ is immediately removed.

However, I still think that mistakes were made by CFC & CT regarding the portrayed relationship between CFC & the PPP.
AC and the club have put procedures in place at CFC and still maintain that there is no connection other than through association with branding between both companies.

CT resigned from both of the companies that were created by LS.
AC is in the process of changing email contact details which link the PPP with CFC.
AC is regularly monitoring the state of affairs at the PPP as he now as a vested interest via his personal loan that he loaned the PPP.

I still think that the way the staff at the PPP were treated & the young ones was disgraceful and the least that should come out of it is an apology to all concerned. As all of us know, especially those that run businesses, cash flow is paramount. The PPP had no cash and I would guess that LS buried his end in the sand and didn't seek any help or advise.
I know there are several questions that fans want to ask regarding the PPP so at this moment in time I think that somebody needs to stay on the right side of the line and hopefully all can be asked and answers can be revealed.

There are still other issues that surround CFC that may come out into the public as I am aware of several other issues within, but I do know that the club are following a certain line of enquiries within CFC and historical activities.

Changes have been made within CFC, other directors are now taking a keener interest within certain projects & issues.
No matter how much you shout and demand, CT & DA are going nowhere until somebody comes along with enough cash to take control.

The more the fans shout and bleat above DA, the more we will alienate him. I am trying to get a meeting together between parties and the fans, it is harder than you think to fix a date. AC & CT are having to get the approval of DA for the meeting and at this moment in time DA does NOT want the meeting to take place but I am very hopeful that the meeting will take place in the future, but it doesn't help when suggestions are put forward and fans criticise the set up, moaning about a tenner and chuffing pie & peas.

I just want to go back to enjoying football, Wimbledon wasn't enjoyable, especially the 9 hours travelling. The club does need the fans and the team need the vocal backing. The comparison between the backing at Oxford & Wimbledon was strange. It's true that the fans can make the 12th man but alas we did not have much to cheer about. Town fans away from home have usually all been in good voice, let's try to put it right at Oldham.

Z

[azul]

Zorro, on 06 September 2016 - 12:25 PM, said:

I was unaware of this until it was posted in the forum but I don't like it when fans try to trip CFC up and the DT publish something without checking thoroughly. I'm all for exposing scandals and bad practices but I have made a few phone calls over the CCJ which still shows on the Experian reports.

Fans can believe what they want and who to believe, but having spoken to AC (who is on holiday abroad atm) I can report the following from Ashley

CFC have NO debts.
CFC are financially healthy atm and can pay any suppliers.
The CCJ relates to the PPP & NOT CFC (2001) Ltd.
The CCJ is an old debt which related to a van hire company that was based in Chesterfield.
An agreement was made between the PPP & the hire company to pay the debt off in instalments and payments were made regularly to pay the debt off.
Shorts, the accountants have replied that the debt was paid in full and is not outstanding.
The hire company office closed in Chesterfield but the payments were kept up.
AC and Shorts are stating that it is an administration error by the hire company and the CCJ is not justified.
The club have requested that the CCJ is immediately removed.

However, I still think that mistakes were made by CFC & CT regarding the portrayed relationship between CFC & the PPP.
AC and the club have put procedures in place at CFC and still maintain that there is no connection other than through association with branding between both companies.

CT resigned from both of the companies that were created by LS.
AC is in the process of changing email contact details which link the PPP with CFC.
AC is regularly monitoring the state of affairs at the PPP as he now as a vested interest via his personal loan that he loaned the PPP.

I still think that the way the staff at the PPP were treated & the young ones was disgraceful and the least that should come out of it is an apology to all concerned. As all of us know, especially those that run businesses, cash flow is paramount. The PPP had no cash and I would guess that LS buried his end in the sand and didn't seek any help or advise.
I know there are several questions that fans want to ask regarding the PPP so at this moment in time I think that somebody needs to stay on the right side of the line and hopefully all can be asked and answers can be revealed.

There are still other issues that surround CFC that may come out into the public as I am aware of several other issues within, but I do know that the club are following a certain line of enquiries within CFC and historical activities.

Changes have been made within CFC, other directors are now taking a keener interest within certain projects & issues.
No matter how much you shout and demand, CT & DA are going nowhere until somebody comes along with enough cash to take control.

The more the fans shout and bleat above DA, the more we will alienate him. I am trying to get a meeting together between parties and the fans, it is harder than you think to fix a date. AC & CT are having to get the approval of DA for the meeting and at this moment in time DA does NOT want the meeting to take place but I am very hopeful that the meeting will take place in the future, but it doesn't help when suggestions are put forward and fans criticise the set up, moaning about a tenner and chuffing pie & peas.

I just want to go back to enjoying football, Wimbledon wasn't enjoyable, especially the 9 hours travelling. The club does need the fans and the team need the vocal backing. The comparison between the backing at Oxford & Wimbledon was strange. It's true that the fans can make the 12th man but alas we did not have much to cheer about. Town fans away from home have usually all been in good voice, let's try to put it right at Oldham.

Z

That article sounds factually correct

As for CFC being tripped up, they are tripping over their own feet

[mr. smith]

Zorro, on 06 September 2016 - 12:25 PM, said:

I was unaware of this until it was posted in the forum but I don't like it when fans try to trip CFC up and the DT publish something without checking thoroughly. I'm all for exposing scandals and bad practices but I have made a few phone calls over the CCJ which still shows on the Experian reports.

Fans can believe what they want and who to believe, but having spoken to AC (who is on holiday abroad atm) I can report the following from Ashley

CFC have NO debts.
CFC are financially healthy atm and can pay any suppliers.
The CCJ relates to the PPP & NOT CFC (2001) Ltd.
The CCJ is an old debt which related to a van hire company that was based in Chesterfield.
An agreement was made between the PPP & the hire company to pay the debt off in instalments and payments were made regularly to pay the debt off.
Shorts, the accountants have replied that the debt was paid in full and is not outstanding.
The hire company office closed in Chesterfield but the payments were kept up.
AC and Shorts are stating that it is an administration error by the hire company and the CCJ is not justified.
The club have requested that the CCJ is immediately removed.

However, I still think that mistakes were made by CFC & CT regarding the portrayed relationship between CFC & the PPP.
AC and the club have put procedures in place at CFC and still maintain that there is no connection other than through association with branding between both companies.

CT resigned from both of the companies that were created by LS.
AC is in the process of changing email contact details which link the PPP with CFC.
AC is regularly monitoring the state of affairs at the PPP as he now as a vested interest via his personal loan that he loaned the PPP.

I still think that the way the staff at the PPP were treated & the young ones was disgraceful and the least that should come out of it is an apology to all concerned. As all of us know, especially those that run businesses, cash flow is paramount. The PPP had no cash and I would guess that LS buried his end in the sand and didn't seek any help or advise.
I know there are several questions that fans want to ask regarding the PPP so at this moment in time I think that somebody needs to stay on the right side of the line and hopefully all can be asked and answers can be revealed.

There are still other issues that surround CFC that may come out into the public as I am aware of several other issues within, but I do know that the club are following a certain line of enquiries within CFC and historical activities.

Changes have been made within CFC, other directors are now taking a keener interest within certain projects & issues.
No matter how much you shout and demand, CT & DA are going nowhere until somebody comes along with enough cash to take control.

The more the fans shout and bleat above DA, the more we will alienate him. I am trying to get a meeting together between parties and the fans, it is harder than you think to fix a date. AC & CT are having to get the approval of DA for the meeting and at this moment in time DA does NOT want the meeting to take place but I am very hopeful that the meeting will take place in the future, but it doesn't help when suggestions are put forward and fans criticise the set up, moaning about a tenner and chuffing pie & peas.

I just want to go back to enjoying football, Wimbledon wasn't enjoyable, especially the 9 hours travelling. The club does need the fans and the team need the vocal backing. The comparison between the backing at Oxford & Wimbledon was strange. It's true that the fans can make the 12th man but alas we did not have much to cheer about. Town fans away from home have usually all been in good voice, let's try to put it right at Oldham.

Z

if dave allen doesn't want the meeting to take place then why bother trying to set a date?

[Forever a Spireite]

Ad I've said before Goid Luck with the meeting. We know we are stuck with Allen and I for one have only one problem with him his continuing support for Turnipe. Why oh why do we have to be stuck with him. Doesn't the Chairman realise he is the root problem and that until he has gone things will just deteriorate. It's NOT the fans fault. I will still attend all home league games with my lad but one thing is for sure Turnipes continuing involvement will result in more scandals, cock ups, losses and dwindling crowds and interest in the club. Apart from tickets CFC have not had a penny more off me. That will continue to cost them about £15 a game. I'm sure others are taking this stance.

[baldyblu]

Zorro, on 06 September 2016 - 12:25 PM, said:

I was unaware of this until it was posted in the forum but I don't like it when fans try to trip CFC up and the DT publish something without checking thoroughly. I'm all for exposing scandals and bad practices but I have made a few phone calls over the CCJ which still shows on the Experian reports.

Fans can believe what they want and who to believe, but having spoken to AC (who is on holiday abroad atm) I can report the following from Ashley

CFC have NO debts.
CFC are financially healthy atm and can pay any suppliers.
The CCJ relates to the PPP & NOT CFC (2001) Ltd.
The CCJ is an old debt which related to a van hire company that was based in Chesterfield.
An agreement was made between the PPP & the hire company to pay the debt off in instalments and payments were made regularly to pay the debt off.
Shorts, the accountants have replied that the debt was paid in full and is not outstanding.
The hire company office closed in Chesterfield but the payments were kept up.
AC and Shorts are stating that it is an administration error by the hire company and the CCJ is not justified.
The club have requested that the CCJ is immediately removed.

However, I still think that mistakes were made by CFC & CT regarding the portrayed relationship between CFC & the PPP.
AC and the club have put procedures in place at CFC and still maintain that there is no connection other than through association with branding between both companies.

CT resigned from both of the companies that were created by LS.
AC is in the process of changing email contact details which link the PPP with CFC.
AC is regularly monitoring the state of affairs at the PPP as he now as a vested interest via his personal loan that he loaned the PPP.

I still think that the way the staff at the PPP were treated & the young ones was disgraceful and the least that should come out of it is an apology to all concerned. As all of us know, especially those that run businesses, cash flow is paramount. The PPP had no cash and I would guess that LS buried his end in the sand and didn't seek any help or advise.
I know there are several questions that fans want to ask regarding the PPP so at this moment in time I think that somebody needs to stay on the right side of the line and hopefully all can be asked and answers can be revealed.

There are still other issues that surround CFC that may come out into the public as I am aware of several other issues within, but I do know that the club are following a certain line of enquiries within CFC and historical activities.

Changes have been made within CFC, other directors are now taking a keener interest within certain projects & issues.
No matter how much you shout and demand, CT & DA are going nowhere until somebody comes along with enough cash to take control.

The more the fans shout and bleat above DA, the more we will alienate him. I am trying to get a meeting together between parties and the fans, it is harder than you think to fix a date. AC & CT are having to get the approval of DA for the meeting and at this moment in time DA does NOT want the meeting to take place but I am very hopeful that the meeting will take place in the future, but it doesn't help when suggestions are put forward and fans criticise the set up, moaning about a tenner and chuffing pie & peas.

I just want to go back to enjoying football, Wimbledon wasn't enjoyable, especially the 9 hours travelling. The club does need the fans and the team need the vocal backing. The comparison between the backing at Oxford & Wimbledon was strange. It's true that the fans can make the 12th man but alas we did not have much to cheer about. Town fans away from home have usually all been in good voice, let's try to put it right at Oldham.

Z

Whoah,just a minute....did we not hear from a very good source recently,that PPP is healthy and trading at a profit! mmmmm,where is that good source?

[Zorro]

baldyblu, on 06 September 2016 - 01:10 PM, said:

Whoah,just a minute....did we not hear from a very good source recently,that PPP is healthy and trading at a profit! mmmmm,where is that good source?

Sorry, I don't understand your question here in reply to my message.
I have no idea of the current financial situation at the PPP, the CCJ is for an old debt from last year when the PPP hired mini-buses from a hire company that had their offices at the the old Royal Hospital in Town (if that helps).

Z

[valemadness]

shaun1866, on 06 September 2016 - 11:57 AM, said:

See if he is as quick to reply or like my last tweet asking if it is going to happen as patience is wearing thin

Not this month.....

[Heart of a Niven]

Zorro, on 06 September 2016 - 01:17 PM, said:

Sorry, I don't understand your question here in reply to my message.
I have no idea of the current financial situation at the PPP, the CCJ is for an old debt from last year when the PPP hired mini-buses from a hire company that had their offices at the the old Royal Hospital in Town (if that helps).

Z

For the love of everyon'e sanity, give it up, man! Stop trying to defend the indefensible. No one blames you for trying.

[dazcarrlegend]

Zorro, on 06 September 2016 - 12:25 PM, said:

I was unaware of this until it was posted in the forum but I don't like it when fans try to trip CFC up and the DT publish something without checking thoroughly. I'm all for exposing scandals and bad practices but I have made a few phone calls over the CCJ which still shows on the Experian reports.

Fans can believe what they want and who to believe, but having spoken to AC (who is on holiday abroad atm) I can report the following from Ashley

CFC have NO debts.
CFC are financially healthy atm and can pay any suppliers.
The CCJ relates to the PPP & NOT CFC (2001) Ltd.
The CCJ is an old debt which related to a van hire company that was based in Chesterfield.
An agreement was made between the PPP & the hire company to pay the debt off in instalments and payments were made regularly to pay the debt off.
Shorts, the accountants have replied that the debt was paid in full and is not outstanding.
The hire company office closed in Chesterfield but the payments were kept up.
AC and Shorts are stating that it is an administration error by the hire company and the CCJ is not justified.
The club have requested that the CCJ is immediately removed.

However, I still think that mistakes were made by CFC & CT regarding the portrayed relationship between CFC & the PPP.
AC and the club have put procedures in place at CFC and still maintain that there is no connection other than through association with branding between both companies.

CT resigned from both of the companies that were created by LS.
AC is in the process of changing email contact details which link the PPP with CFC.
AC is regularly monitoring the state of affairs at the PPP as he now as a vested interest via his personal loan that he loaned the PPP.

I still think that the way the staff at the PPP were treated & the young ones was disgraceful and the least that should come out of it is an apology to all concerned. As all of us know, especially those that run businesses, cash flow is paramount. The PPP had no cash and I would guess that LS buried his end in the sand and didn't seek any help or advise.
I know there are several questions that fans want to ask regarding the PPP so at this moment in time I think that somebody needs to stay on the right side of the line and hopefully all can be asked and answers can be revealed.

There are still other issues that surround CFC that may come out into the public as I am aware of several other issues within, but I do know that the club are following a certain line of enquiries within CFC and historical activities.

Changes have been made within CFC, other directors are now taking a keener interest within certain projects & issues.
No matter how much you shout and demand, CT & DA are going nowhere until somebody comes along with enough cash to take control.

The more the fans shout and bleat above DA, the more we will alienate him. I am trying to get a meeting together between parties and the fans, it is harder than you think to fix a date. AC & CT are having to get the approval of DA for the meeting and at this moment in time DA does NOT want the meeting to take place but I am very hopeful that the meeting will take place in the future, but it doesn't help when suggestions are put forward and fans criticise the set up, moaning about a tenner and chuffing pie & peas.

I just want to go back to enjoying football, Wimbledon wasn't enjoyable, especially the 9 hours travelling. The club does need the fans and the team need the vocal backing. The comparison between the backing at Oxford & Wimbledon was strange. It's true that the fans can make the 12th man but alas we did not have much to cheer about. Town fans away from home have usually all been in good voice, let's try to put it right at Oldham.

Z

It is not quite as simple as that. Even if a CCJ is issued in error, and the persons owed the debt agree that it has been issued in error, it still has to go through court to be annulled. And this will be at the cost of CFC...

[Mrhappy]

Heart of a Niven, on 06 September 2016 - 01:26 PM, said:

For the love of everyon'e sanity, give it up, man! Stop trying to defend the indefensible. No one blames you for trying.

I've got to be honest and say that's my thinking. DA doesn't want the meeting, you said it yourself mate. We have all waited patiently, and a few less so, but nonetheless the majority were willing to grab the apparent olive branch offered by AC. You seem a decent chap Rob, don't take any more flak for them. There's only one thing that drives people like that........££££££££££.

[The Earl of Chesterfield]

Zorro, on 06 September 2016 - 12:25 PM, said:

I was unaware of this until it was posted in the forum but I don't like it when fans try to trip CFC up and the DT publish something without checking thoroughly. I'm all for exposing scandals and bad practices but I have made a few phone calls over the CCJ which still shows on the Experian reports.

Fans can believe what they want and who to believe, but having spoken to AC (who is on holiday abroad atm) I can report the following from Ashley

CFC have NO debts.
CFC are financially healthy atm and can pay any suppliers.
The CCJ relates to the PPP & NOT CFC (2001) Ltd.
The CCJ is an old debt which related to a van hire company that was based in Chesterfield.
An agreement was made between the PPP & the hire company to pay the debt off in instalments and payments were made regularly to pay the debt off.
Shorts, the accountants have replied that the debt was paid in full and is not outstanding.
The hire company office closed in Chesterfield but the payments were kept up.
AC and Shorts are stating that it is an administration error by the hire company and the CCJ is not justified.
The club have requested that the CCJ is immediately removed.

However, I still think that mistakes were made by CFC & CT regarding the portrayed relationship between CFC & the PPP.
AC and the club have put procedures in place at CFC and still maintain that there is no connection other than through association with branding between both companies.

CT resigned from both of the companies that were created by LS.
AC is in the process of changing email contact details which link the PPP with CFC.
AC is regularly monitoring the state of affairs at the PPP as he now as a vested interest via his personal loan that he loaned the PPP.

I still think that the way the staff at the PPP were treated & the young ones was disgraceful and the least that should come out of it is an apology to all concerned. As all of us know, especially those that run businesses, cash flow is paramount. The PPP had no cash and I would guess that LS buried his end in the sand and didn't seek any help or advise.
I know there are several questions that fans want to ask regarding the PPP so at this moment in time I think that somebody needs to stay on the right side of the line and hopefully all can be asked and answers can be revealed.

There are still other issues that surround CFC that may come out into the public as I am aware of several other issues within, but I do know that the club are following a certain line of enquiries within CFC and historical activities.

Changes have been made within CFC, other directors are now taking a keener interest within certain projects & issues.
No matter how much you shout and demand, CT & DA are going nowhere until somebody comes along with enough cash to take control.

The more the fans shout and bleat above DA, the more we will alienate him. I am trying to get a meeting together between parties and the fans, it is harder than you think to fix a date. AC & CT are having to get the approval of DA for the meeting and at this moment in time DA does NOT want the meeting to take place but I am very hopeful that the meeting will take place in the future, but it doesn't help when suggestions are put forward and fans criticise the set up, moaning about a tenner and chuffing pie & peas.

I just want to go back to enjoying football, Wimbledon wasn't enjoyable, especially the 9 hours travelling. The club does need the fans and the team need the vocal backing. The comparison between the backing at Oxford & Wimbledon was strange. It's true that the fans can make the 12th man but alas we did not have much to cheer about. Town fans away from home have usually all been in good voice, let's try to put it right at Oldham.

Z

Rob, mate, please; the Club have an official spokesman so whilst I understand you seeking to cultivate a civil relationship maybe you should leave this kinda stuff to him - yeah?

And your inference fans are somehow at fault for not warning the Club and/or the DT have been unprofessional...well, I'm genuinely staggered.

We should do favours for extremely well rewarded folk responsible for a catalogue of gaffes and scandals but yet to offer a single word of apology?

Who've met the litany of reports like this with contradiction, misinformation and evasion?

Who've treat parents, employees and supporters with disdain bordering contempt?

You as much as anyone should be aware of what I'm referring to.

Then as has been pointed out elsewhere by individuals with knowledge of such matters, the idea no one at either CFC or PPP knew anything about this simply defies legal procedure.

My interpretation is pretty simple: whatever the truth behind this latest humiliation it's yet another result of tolerating characters with a history of questionable competence and candour.

Whilstever that's the case I don't think fans can be blamed for doubting the official account.

[Mrhappy]

Rob, I've sent you a pm

[moondog]

The meeting was supposed to be about the PPP and therefore nothing to do with Dave Allen....

[dim view]

Zorro, on 06 September 2016 - 12:25 PM, said:

I was unaware of this until it was posted in the forum but I don't like it when fans try to trip CFC up and the DT publish something without checking thoroughly. I'm all for exposing scandals and bad practices but I have made a few phone calls over the CCJ which still shows on the Experian reports.

Fans can believe what they want and who to believe, but having spoken to AC (who is on holiday abroad atm) I can report the following from Ashley

CFC have NO debts.
CFC are financially healthy atm and can pay any suppliers.
The CCJ relates to the PPP & NOT CFC (2001) Ltd.
The CCJ is an old debt which related to a van hire company that was based in Chesterfield.
An agreement was made between the PPP & the hire company to pay the debt off in instalments and payments were made regularly to pay the debt off.
Shorts, the accountants have replied that the debt was paid in full and is not outstanding.
The hire company office closed in Chesterfield but the payments were kept up.
AC and Shorts are stating that it is an administration error by the hire company and the CCJ is not justified.
The club have requested that the CCJ is immediately removed.

However, I still think that mistakes were made by CFC & CT regarding the portrayed relationship between CFC & the PPP.
AC and the club have put procedures in place at CFC and still maintain that there is no connection other than through association with branding between both companies.

CT resigned from both of the companies that were created by LS.
AC is in the process of changing email contact details which link the PPP with CFC.
AC is regularly monitoring the state of affairs at the PPP as he now as a vested interest via his personal loan that he loaned the PPP.

I still think that the way the staff at the PPP were treated & the young ones was disgraceful and the least that should come out of it is an apology to all concerned. As all of us know, especially those that run businesses, cash flow is paramount. The PPP had no cash and I would guess that LS buried his end in the sand and didn't seek any help or advise.
I know there are several questions that fans want to ask regarding the PPP so at this moment in time I think that somebody needs to stay on the right side of the line and hopefully all can be asked and answers can be revealed.

There are still other issues that surround CFC that may come out into the public as I am aware of several other issues within, but I do know that the club are following a certain line of enquiries within CFC and historical activities.

Changes have been made within CFC, other directors are now taking a keener interest within certain projects & issues.
No matter how much you shout and demand, CT & DA are going nowhere until somebody comes along with enough cash to take control.

The more the fans shout and bleat above DA, the more we will alienate him. I am trying to get a meeting together between parties and the fans, it is harder than you think to fix a date. AC & CT are having to get the approval of DA for the meeting and at this moment in time DA does NOT want the meeting to take place but I am very hopeful that the meeting will take place in the future, but it doesn't help when suggestions are put forward and fans criticise the set up, moaning about a tenner and chuffing pie & peas.

I just want to go back to enjoying football, Wimbledon wasn't enjoyable, especially the 9 hours travelling. The club does need the fans and the team need the vocal backing. The comparison between the backing at Oxford & Wimbledon was strange. It's true that the fans can make the 12th man but alas we did not have much to cheer about. Town fans away from home have usually all been in good voice, let's try to put it right at Oldham.

Z

What makes you think the DT did not check thoroughly?
I doubt very much that they published before asking for comments. It looks like you got more detail from Malta than they got from Whitt Moor.

[Zorro]

moondog, on 06 September 2016 - 04:08 PM, said:

The meeting was supposed to be about the PPP and therefore nothing to do with Dave Allen....

Mark, you could also say that AC & CT have nothing to do with the PPP so why should they attend?

Rob

[Sammy Spireite]

Zorro, on 06 September 2016 - 04:25 PM, said:

Mark, you could also say that AC & CT have nothing to do with the PPP so why should they attend?

Rob

except for the huge sums of money both have recently invested, aimed at 'sorting the mess out'

[dim view]

Zorro, on 06 September 2016 - 04:25 PM, said:

Mark, you could also say that AC & CT have nothing to do with the PPP so why should they attend?

Rob

I'm perfectly at ease with those two submitting their apologies. Let's have the meeting.