[Gabriel]

A bit late to post this but I've done a write-up on your 7-1 win over Shrewsbury - http://www.TheFootba...rry-shrewsbury/

Thought it could have been a different game had Salop taken a couple of their chances but your lot were clinical, thought Novak and Ariyibi were superb. Reckon Danny Wilson is the right appointment?

[Tha Knows...]

I think it's a fair report, and how lovely that Lawrence should suffer his worst experience against us.

[Westbars Spireite]

 Spire-Power, on 08 January 2016 - 12:05 PM, said:

I think it's a fair report, and how lovely that Lawrence should suffer his worst experience against us.

Worse than that penalty miss? That was better!

[sophocles]

 Dema Reborn, on 08 January 2016 - 11:41 AM, said:

After a dismal season where we have only won twice at home the fans thoroughly deserved this treat, i have seen this happen twice before and i cannot wait for it to happen again, ok fair enough i think the Shrews lost two players in first half to injuries and it certainly affected them, but we saw some great goals and was disappointed with some comments from Shrewsbury, why cannot they give credit for once, i thought the first penalty was a bit harsh but we have had some stone wallers denied so we will take it, after the Coventry game we thought we could win this one but by 7 goals no way, somebody pinch me i still think i am dreaming it....

Agree with that, it didn't seem real at the time, and it still doesn't I do think the role of luck in games is often underestimated. Yes last season's team was decimated, and it was always going to be a struggle this season, but quite a few of those games we lost could have gone the other way if we'd had a stroke of luck. In the Shrewsbury game luck turned in our favour; they never looked the same after their enforced substitutions, and IMO both penalties were very soft, certainly much more innocuous challenges than 5 or 6 we've been denied in previous games. Having said that, our energy levels and finishing were excellent, and nobody can quibble at a 7-1 win. Probably the best thing to come out of it, apart from 3 vital points, is the increased confidence which hopefully will see a general improvement in results from now on.

[sophocles]

 Dema Reborn, on 08 January 2016 - 11:41 AM, said:

After a dismal season where we have only won twice at home the fans thoroughly deserved this treat, i have seen this happen twice before and i cannot wait for it to happen again, ok fair enough i think the Shrews lost two players in first half to injuries and it certainly affected them, but we saw some great goals and was disappointed with some comments from Shrewsbury, why cannot they give credit for once, i thought the first penalty was a bit harsh but we have had some stone wallers denied so we will take it, after the Coventry game we thought we could win this one but by 7 goals no way, somebody pinch me i still think i am dreaming it....

Agree with that, it didn't seem real at the time, and it still doesn't I do think the role of luck in games is often underestimated. Yes last season's team was decimated, and it was always going to be a struggle this season, but quite a few of those games we lost could have gone the other way if we'd had a stroke of luck. In the Shrewsbury game luck turned in our favour; they never looked the same after their enforced substitutions, and IMO both penalties were very soft, certainly much more innocuous challenges than 5 or 6 we've been denied in previous games. Having said that, our energy levels and finishing were excellent, and nobody can quibble at a 7-1 win. Probably the best thing to come out of it, apart from 3 vital points, is the increased confidence which hopefully will see a general improvement in results from now on.

[JonB]

 Westbars Spireite, on 08 January 2016 - 12:52 PM, said:

Worse than that penalty miss? That was better!

I watched that in the Hunloke Arms as was on Derby Road when a friend of ours ran it. I laughed quite loudly and said something along the lines of it couldnt happen to a better person only for the table next to us be a family with young kids who were Mansfield fans...young daughter started crying and they didnt look best pleased with me.

[Tha Knows...]

 JonB, on 08 January 2016 - 01:50 PM, said:

I watched that in the Hunloke Arms as was on Derby Road when a friend of ours ran it. I laughed quite loudly and said something along the lines of it couldnt happen to a better person only for the table next to us be a family with young kids who were Mansfield fans...young daughter started crying and they didnt look best pleased with me.

Serves em right for straying on to our land

[Town_Fan]

Simons wasnt an Academy graduate he was signed from the Ilkeston Town first team iirc.

[Westbars Spireite]

 Town_Fan, on 08 January 2016 - 03:46 PM, said:

Simons wasnt an Academy graduate he was signed from the Ilkeston Town first team iirc.

Correct. Although it's Ilkeston FC if we're getting it bang on.

This post has been edited by Westbars Spireite: 08 January 2016 - 05:17 PM

[The Earl of Chesterfield]

 JonB, on 08 January 2016 - 01:50 PM, said:

I watched that in the Hunloke Arms as was on Derby Road when a friend of ours ran it. I laughed quite loudly and said something along the lines of it couldnt happen to a better person only for the table next to us be a family with young kids who were Mansfield fans...young daughter started crying and they didnt look best pleased with me.

Isn't that a form of child abuse?

No, not making a little girl cry, but the parents introducing them to MTFC in the first place.

This post has been edited by MDCCCLXVI: 08 January 2016 - 05:19 PM

[Happ Hazzard]

It was a great win, but if we lose tomorrow it means nothing. Better to win one game 1-0 and draw the next 0-0 than to win one game 7-1 and lose the next 1-0. We need to start winning scrappy games that we don't necessarily deserve to win. That's what matters over the course of a season.

This post has been edited by Happ Hazzard: 08 January 2016 - 10:34 PM

[Doughnut]

 Happ Hazzard, on 08 January 2016 - 10:34 PM, said:

It was a great win, but if we lose tomorrow it means nothing. Better to win one game 1-0 and draw the next 0-0 than to win one game 7-1 and lose the next 1-0. We need to start winning scrappy games that we don't necessarily deserve to win. That's what matters over the course of a season.

I disagree - even if we lose tomorrow we still got 3 points from the Shrews game so are 2/3 points better off than had we not won. Are you suggesting that unless you follow up a win with a positive result the win was pointless?

[Stoptalkingbol]

 Happ Hazzard, on 08 January 2016 - 10:34 PM, said:

It was a great win, but if we lose tomorrow it means nothing. Better to win one game 1-0 and draw the next 0-0 than to win one game 7-1 and lose the next 1-0. We need to start winning scrappy games that we don't necessarily deserve to win. That's what matters over the course of a season.

Thick as pudding.

[Tha Knows...]

Basically we need 8 wins from 21 games or points equivalent so losing tomorrow isn't the end of the world but it would be nice to get a run going and have a cushion between us and the bottom 4.

[dim view]

 Spire-Power, on 08 January 2016 - 11:57 PM, said:

Basically we need 8 wins from 21 games or points equivalent so losing tomorrow isn't the end of the world but it would be nice to get a run going and have a cushion between us and the bottom 4.

We have the joint most losses in the league reflecting the fact that we have probably the most unsettled defence. This is the key area and it must continue the consistency shown in the last 2 matches otherwise Danny will have to better his overall career success record in order to keep us up. We are approaching the stage where we will have to win most of our home matches. In my opinion then, the performance of the current CB pairing is crucial, starting today.

[Ernie Ernie Ernie]

 Happ Hazzard, on 08 January 2016 - 10:34 PM, said:

It was a great win, but if we lose tomorrow it means nothing. Better to win one game 1-0 and draw the next 0-0 than to win one game 7-1 and lose the next 1-0. We need to start winning scrappy games that we don't necessarily deserve to win. That's what matters over the course of a season.

It means 3 points, ending the dismal run and a confidence boost which in itself will help us gain additional points in future games as the run is broken, players will be less anxious and they should play with more freedom.

[60s 70s Spireite]

 dim view, on 09 January 2016 - 09:38 AM, said:

We have the joint most losses in the league reflecting the fact that we have probably the most unsettled defence. This is the key area and it must continue the consistency shown in the last 2 matches otherwise Danny will have to better his overall career success record in order to keep us up. We are approaching the stage where we will have to win most of our home matches. In my opinion then, the performance of the current CB pairing is crucial, starting today.

But not the keeper, the full backs, the defensive midfielders, the attacking midfielders and the strikers (keeping the ball at the other end of the pitch) then?

[Tha Knows...]

 dim view, on 09 January 2016 - 09:38 AM, said:

We have the joint most losses in the league reflecting the fact that we have probably the most unsettled defence. This is the key area and it must continue the consistency shown in the last 2 matches otherwise Danny will have to better his overall career success record in order to keep us up. We are approaching the stage where we will have to win most of our home matches. In my opinion then, the performance of the current CB pairing is crucial, starting today.

Permutations for a minimum of 50 points include:
Win 8 Draw 0 Lose 13
Win 7 Draw 2 Lose 12
Win 6 Draw 5 Lose 10
Win 5 Draw 8 Lose 8

[Happ Hazzard]

 Stoptalkingbol, on 08 January 2016 - 11:56 PM, said:

Thick as pudding.

Have they changed the rules then, or is it still three point for a win, one for a draw and one for a loss. 7-1 is three points. 1-0 is three points. A single 7-1 win in a season isn't going to keep us up if we keep losing games we should draw and drawing games we should be winning.

I'd trade a 1-0 win with the goal coming from a first minute goalmouth scramble and parking the bus for the next 89 minutes followed by a 0-0 draw with no shots on target over a 7-1 win and an "exciting" 5-4 defeat the next game. As would any genuine supporter. A big win is ephermeral. It's what the league table says at the end of the season that matters in the long run.