[sophocles]

60s 70s Spireite, on 11 January 2016 - 06:07 PM, said:

Tony McShane throwing the shirts up at Lincoln, and the players playing in the position of the shirt they picked up.

Did that include the keeper?

[dtp]

Sammy Spireite, on 11 January 2016 - 12:27 PM, said:

All this debate is made irrelevant by this bit " in the opinion of the referee" as he obviously felt he was involved in active play.

"In the opinion of the referee" it was a goal - then, after joining the Rochdale Debating Society the referee changed his "opinion" after about 3 minutes.

Similarly, "in the opinion of the linesman" it was a goal - then, after joining the Rochdale Debating Society the linesman changed his "opinion" in agreement with the referee after about 3 minutes.

I think that explains how the "opinion of the referee" works.

By the way the same referee was capable of flashing a yellow card in a split-second because in "his opinion" Ariyibi dived twice yet you can replay the two incidents over and over again and still be unsure of "your opinion".

Probably, the words "in the opinion of the referee" should be removed from the rule book because he can clearly use his "opinion" to suit his own ends.

This post has been edited by dtp: 11 January 2016 - 07:21 PM

[dtp]

60s 70s Spireite, on 11 January 2016 - 06:07 PM, said:

Tony McShane throwing the shirts up at Lincoln, and the players playing in the position of the shirt they picked up.

I believe we won that game as well.

[Goku]

You lot do a lot of crying about refs don't you

[clarevoyant.]

Goku, on 11 January 2016 - 07:56 PM, said:

You lot do a lot of crying about refs don't you

I suppose we will eventually get to the point whereby we have to stoop so low has to start using sexual innuendo and no doubt this will then increase the size of our niche little circle

[Goku]

Here's one for you;

The referees who you cry about use your tears as lube to toss themselves off with

"Waaaah the referees are all against Chesterfield FC" like they give two tosses about our club lol, get a grip

[clarevoyant.]

Goku, on 12 January 2016 - 07:23 AM, said:

Here's one for you;

The referees who you cry about use your tears as lube to toss themselves off with

"Waaaah the referees are all against Chesterfield FC" like they give two tosses about our club lol, get a grip

In the words of Eric Idle
"Say no more"

[Mr Mercury]

Goku, on 12 January 2016 - 07:23 AM, said:

Here's one for you;

The referees who you cry about use your tears as lube to toss themselves off with

"Waaaah the referees are all against Chesterfield FC" like they give two tosses about our club lol, get a grip

Of course it's ridiculous to think the ref was against Chesterfield in a blatant cheating sort of way, but he hardly adhered himself to our fans with the disallowed second goal and the booking of Tommy for kicking the ball away after their second goal. The ball would easily have been retrieved in time for the re start. The Gardener booking was correct as was the disallowed first goal. Also from what I saw Ariyibi made it very easy for the ref to send him off. No conspiracy, but some poor decisions!

[Stoptalkingbol]

Goku, on 11 January 2016 - 07:56 PM, said:

You lot do a lot of crying about refs don't you

Although not much crying about the ref who gave us two dodgy pens against Shrewsbury? Anyone would think fans only cry about these things when they go against them?

[Goku]

clarevoyant., on 10 January 2016 - 10:44 AM, said:

Our esteemed assessor "Dema" stated on another thread that "cb doesn't appear to like us" well to add weight to that argument why when cautioning a town player does he do it with so much gusto. When he cautioned Tommy he must have expended more energy in his card waving run than he used over the other 90 minutes.

You're how old and you're still posting this? Isn't in time that you learn to accept that refs in general aren't that good, that being a referee is a tough job to do consistently and effectively and that it would be a very rare occasion in England that a referee goes out with the intention to favour one team over another.

At your age, you'll do yourself a mischief if you keep ranting about things like this.

Mr Mercury, on 12 January 2016 - 09:55 AM, said:

Of course it's ridiculous to think the ref was against Chesterfield in a blatant cheating sort of way, but he hardly adhered himself to our fans with the disallowed second goal and the booking of Tommy for kicking the ball away after their second goal. The ball would easily have been retrieved in time for the re start. The Gardener booking was correct as was the disallowed first goal. Also from what I saw Ariyibi made it very easy for the ref to send him off. No conspiracy, but some poor decisions!

I don't doubt the refereeing standard was poor, it's the whole "the refs hate CFC" garbage that I find amusing/slightly worrying that someone would think this.

[DIFH]

Goku, on 12 January 2016 - 11:47 AM, said:

You're how old and you're still posting this? Isn't in time that you learn to accept that refs in general aren't that good, that being a referee is a tough job to do consistently and effectively and that it would be a very rare occasion in England that a referee goes out with the intention to favour one team over another.

At your age, you'll do yourself a mischief if you keep ranting about things like this.



I don't doubt the refereeing standard was poor, it's the whole "the refs hate CFC" garbage that I find amusing/slightly worrying that someone would think this.

Spot on there lad.

[clarevoyant.]

Goku, on 12 January 2016 - 11:47 AM, said:

You're how old and you're still posting this? Isn't in time that you learn to accept that refs in general aren't that good, that being a referee is a tough job to do consistently and effectively and that it would be a very rare occasion in England that a referee goes out with the intention to favour one team over another.

At your age, you'll do yourself a mischief if you keep ranting about things like this.



I don't doubt the refereeing standard was poor, it's the whole "the refs hate CFC" garbage that I find amusing/slightly worrying that someone would think this.

I'm sure we all realise that refs in general aren't very good one of my theories for this is the promotion and assessing system in place but that's another debate.
If you read my contributions as claiming I think refs have an agenda against Cfc then read again. I point out the incredible ratio of "match changing decisions" that go against us as opposed to going for us.

And the quote you highlight check the the attribution (and the jest) however boyeson enthusiasm to book Tommy was beyond belief

[Mr Mercury]

clarevoyant., on 12 January 2016 - 01:47 PM, said:

I'm sure we all realise that refs in general aren't very good one of my theories for this is the promotion and assessing system in place but that's another debate.
If you read my contributions as claiming I think refs have an agenda against Cfc then read again. I point out the incredible ratio of "match changing decisions" that go against us as opposed to going for us.

And the quote you highlight check the the attribution (and the jest) however boyeson enthusiasm to book Tommy was beyond belief

The Tommy Lee booking was ridiculous. He booted the ball high in the air out of frustration for conceding late on again, nothing more nothing less. As I've said earlier the ball would have been back on the centre spot still before the Rochdale players, yet the ref nearly beat Usain Bolts 100m recorded racing to Tommy, stupid decision, and totally different from Gardeners deliberate kick away to stall a corner kick.

[DIFH]

Mr Mercury, on 12 January 2016 - 01:59 PM, said:

The Tommy Lee booking was ridiculous. He booted the ball high in the air out of frustration for conceding late on again, nothing more nothing less. As I've said earlier the ball would have been back on the centre spot still before the Rochdale players, yet the ref nearly beat Usain Bolts 100m recorded racing to Tommy, stupid decision, and totally different from Gardeners deliberate kick away to stall a corner kick.

You have to accept that the ref was on a role and responding to the baying home fans.
It's the daft things that players do that are frustrating as a fan. Kicking the ball away 6 ft; remonstrating with officials to make a change in decisions etc. Obviously Dale profited on Saturday. Tommy won't be affected by yellow cards though.

[JonB]

Dave In Footie Heaven, on 12 January 2016 - 03:11 PM, said:

You have to accept that the ref was on a role and responding to the baying home fans.
It's the daft things that players do that are frustrating as a fan. Kicking the ball away 6 ft; remonstrating with officials to make a change in decisions etc. Obviously Dale profited on Saturday. Tommy won't be affected by yellow cards though.

Silly thing is had they scored to make it 3-2 with 10/15mins left the ref wouldnt have booked him for doing the same thing. How often do you see keepers get the hurry up hand signal from refs time after time without anything happening.

[Snowflake McBedwetter]

Referees as a rule are influenced by home support. Bedwetters who think referees conspire against their team don't take into account all the decisions that go their own way.

Fans who laugh at opposing team members carrying a few extra pounds weep with inner rage when it's pointed out their own player might be a bit overweight. They scream 'CHEAT' at the top of their lungs when opposing players dive but wet their britchers when their own players get booked for diving.

In short, it's football. Often poor refereeing, often 'pressure' on the ref. Fans are partisan, refs are influenced by this, as they are human. Get over it. We won.

[DIFH]

JonB, on 12 January 2016 - 03:27 PM, said:

Silly thing is had they scored to make it 3-2 with 10/15mins left the ref wouldnt have booked him for doing the same thing. How often do you see keepers get the hurry up hand signal from refs time after time without anything happening.

We have witnessed many an incredible display of time wasting both home and away.
The ref has the tools to add the time on but as we all know it never reflects the actual time wasted.

[brianclose]

Dave In Footie Heaven, on 12 January 2016 - 03:55 PM, said:

We have witnessed many an incredible display of time wasting both home and away.
The ref has the tools to add the time on but as we all know it never reflects the actual time wasted.

End of the day if you're winning by the odd goal you'll waste time if you're losing by the odd goal you'll complain about others wasting time.

[Goku]

clarevoyant., on 12 January 2016 - 01:47 PM, said:

If you read my contributions as claiming I think refs have an agenda against Cfc then read again. I point out the incredible ratio of "match changing decisions" that go against us as opposed to going for us.

But surely as a CFC fan (and therefore inherently biased towards CFC) you realise that you may well not be noticing the decisions that go for us and that your opinion on "correct" fouls won by CFC players may also be skewed?

[clarevoyant.]

Goku, on 12 January 2016 - 04:17 PM, said:

But surely as a CFC fan (and therefore inherently biased towards CFC) you realise that you may well not be noticing the decisions that go for us and that your opinion on "correct" fouls won by CFC players may also be skewed?

Your assumption is totally wrong