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Dave In Footie Heaven, on 10 January 2016 - 09:43 AM, said:

http://questforthe92.weebly.com/

An independent assessment of the game here.

Not really independent Dave, as he seems to follow Rochdale. But looks like he has tried to be impartial.

[clarevoyant.]

Mr Mercury, on 10 January 2016 - 08:39 AM, said:

That's the thing though, the Lino didn't rule it off, left his flag down by his side.both ref and Lino had given the goal, it's only when a cpl of Rochdale players moaned that they decided to change their minds!

Spot on Mr M

If there hadn't been a deflection (poor touch) by a dale player IMO the shot would have been saved. What would the outcome have been if the deflection had gone wide of the post? a corner would have been awarded no questions. The officials(sic) were happy to award the goal until the keeper did what all keepers do and look for an excuse by appealing for something, they bought it and a got another big decision wrong. If that had happened a few weeks ago we would have capitulated. Oh well a positive we now have character.

Carl f'in Boyeson

Watching the football league show last week cb awarded a penalty after a terrible dive, at the time I thought when he sees that again somebody can get ready next week'. When entering the ground and finding out he was in charge(?) my thoughts went back to Accrington 2 years ago when entering the ground there I was told by Dema that Mathieson was the ref "well lets go home now"

A few minutes before Bolis 2nd yellow a dale player was penalised with cb clearly showing the reason, for throwing his arm into Donohues face(now imagine if this had been Morsy on a Bradford player parkin would have had fleets of paramedic helicopters landing before the ref had got the whistle to his mouth ) this was a clear cautionable offence, what happened ? nowt Why when a CFC player were deemed to have offended did they get a verbal putting them under pressure re re-offending again, but his didn't happen the other way. On one occasion there were 3 attempts to foul Boli before success did he go back and reprimand did he f88k. Sam Morsy was fouled several times with cb trying to play advantage with his arms akimbo trying to impress the assessor with no clear advantage visible, did he go back and speak to the dale players and put them under the same pressure? No, much to the disgust of SM and thus winding him up.

Our esteemed assessor "Dema" stated on another thread that "cb doesn't appear to like us" well to add weight to that argument why when cautioning a town player does he do it with so much gusto. When he cautioned Tommy he must have expended more energy in his card waving run than he used over the other 90 minutes.

A decent ref (considering the state of the game) would (if he had doubt as to whether there was a foul and there had to be doubt) have waved the penalty away indicating the player had tripped himself and then having a discreet but stern word. However cb had probably had a bit of earache from Boli for the disallowed goal balls up (akin to Doyle at Bristol) and was looking for vengeance and still embarrassed by his cock up the previous week saw the perfect opportunity.

He's a bafoon

[Mr Mercury]

clarevoyant., on 10 January 2016 - 10:44 AM, said:

Spot on Mr M

If there hadn't been a deflection (poor touch) by a dale player IMO the shot would have been saved. What would the outcome have been if the deflection had gone wide of the post? a corner would have been awarded no questions. The officials(sic) were happy to award the goal until the keeper did what all keepers do and look for an excuse by appealing for something, they bought it and a got another big decision wrong. If that had happened a few weeks ago we would have capitulated. Oh well a positive we now have character.

Carl f'in Boyeson

Watching the football league show last week cb awarded a penalty after a terrible dive, at the time I thought when he sees that again somebody can get ready next week'. When entering the ground and finding out he was in charge(?) my thoughts went back to Accrington 2 years ago when entering the ground there I was told by Dema that Mathieson was the ref "well lets go home now"

A few minutes before Bolis 2nd yellow a dale player was penalised with cb clearly showing the reason, for throwing his arm into Donohues face(now imagine if this had been Morsy on a Bradford player parkin would have had fleets of paramedic helicopters landing before the ref had got the whistle to his mouth ) this was a clear cautionable offence, what happened ? nowt Why when a CFC player were deemed to have offended did they get a verbal putting them under pressure re re-offending again, but his didn't happen the other way. On one occasion there were 3 attempts to foul Boli before success did he go back and reprimand did he f88k. Sam Morsy was fouled several times with cb trying to play advantage with his arms akimbo trying to impress the assessor with no clear advantage visible, did he go back and speak to the dale players and put them under the same pressure? No, much to the disgust of SM and thus winding him up.

Our esteemed assessor "Dema" stated on another thread that "cb doesn't appear to like us" well to add weight to that argument why when cautioning a town player does he do it with so much gusto. When he cautioned Tommy he must have expended more energy in his card waving run than he used over the other 90 minutes.

A decent ref (considering the state of the game) would (if he had doubt as to whether there was a foul and there had to be doubt) have waved the penalty away indicating the player had tripped himself and then having a discreet but stern word. However cb had probably had a bit of earache from Boli for the disallowed goal balls up (akin to Doyle at Bristol) and was looking for vengeance and still embarrassed by his cock up the previous week saw the perfect opportunity.

He's a bafoon

Pretty fair assessment although I still think Gboly was a bit of a chat from DW for giving the ref the chance to send him off. Like you I was screaming at the ref to book their player for the flailing arm, he demonstrated clearly the reason for the foul yet didn't take action. Same with the attempts to hack Gboly down on one run.
I'm not one who knows the poor refs etc , but I'll be looking out for this idiot again!

[DIFH]

clarevoyant., on 10 January 2016 - 10:44 AM, said:

Spot on Mr M

If there hadn't been a deflection (poor touch) by a dale player IMO the shot would have been saved. What would the outcome have been if the deflection had gone wide of the post? a corner would have been awarded no questions. The officials(sic) were happy to award the goal until the keeper did what all keepers do and look for an excuse by appealing for something, they bought it and a got another big decision wrong. If that had happened a few weeks ago we would have capitulated. Oh well a positive we now have character.

Carl f'in Boyeson

Watching the football league show last week cb awarded a penalty after a terrible dive, at the time I thought when he sees that again somebody can get ready next week'. When entering the ground and finding out he was in charge(?) my thoughts went back to Accrington 2 years ago when entering the ground there I was told by Dema that Mathieson was the ref "well lets go home now"

A few minutes before Bolis 2nd yellow a dale player was penalised with cb clearly showing the reason, for throwing his arm into Donohues face(now imagine if this had been Morsy on a Bradford player parkin would have had fleets of paramedic helicopters landing before the ref had got the whistle to his mouth ) this was a clear cautionable offence, what happened ? nowt Why when a CFC player were deemed to have offended did they get a verbal putting them under pressure re re-offending again, but his didn't happen the other way. On one occasion there were 3 attempts to foul Boli before success did he go back and reprimand did he f88k. Sam Morsy was fouled several times with cb trying to play advantage with his arms akimbo trying to impress the assessor with no clear advantage visible, did he go back and speak to the dale players and put them under the same pressure? No, much to the disgust of SM and thus winding him up.

Our esteemed assessor "Dema" stated on another thread that "cb doesn't appear to like us" well to add weight to that argument why when cautioning a town player does he do it with so much gusto. When he cautioned Tommy he must have expended more energy in his card waving run than he used over the other 90 minutes.

A decent ref (considering the state of the game) would (if he had doubt as to whether there was a foul and there had to be doubt) have waved the penalty away indicating the player had tripped himself and then having a discreet but stern word. However cb had probably had a bit of earache from Boli for the disallowed goal balls up (akin to Doyle at Bristol) and was looking for vengeance and still embarrassed by his cock up the previous week saw the perfect opportunity.

He's a bafoon

The ref responded to all the desperate pleas of the home crowd on every occasion.
His only plus mark was not carding Herd early on for an obvious yellow card.

[h again]

Mr Mercury, on 09 January 2016 - 11:48 PM, said:

He certainly gave the ref a decision to make with the second "dive" ! for gods sake at 3-1 up with 5 mins to play and a yellow already for diving stay on your feet unless you're hacked down! Come on DW have a quiet word with the lad!

Quite right, but the advice should stand at whatever stage of any game. Diving might get the odd cheating goal, but it's main effect is to get a player a reputation for doing it, and then refs are reluctant to give legitimate claims.
We all know Jack wasn't above going down a bit too easily, but whether it did any good is doubtful. There were plenty of occasions when he was fouled quite obviously in the area but nothing given.

This post has been edited by h again: 10 January 2016 - 11:42 AM

[Spire-Heights]

In my opinion, after watching the highlights, both disallowed goals are correct decisions by the linesman. Not 100% sure on Gboly second yellow, not clear from the only footage seen from a distance.

One thing is clear tho, Gboly had a good game and ran them all over the place, long may that continue.

This post has been edited by Spire-Heights: 10 January 2016 - 12:16 PM

[Westbars Spireite]

Dave In Footie Heaven, on 10 January 2016 - 09:43 AM, said:

http://questforthe92.weebly.com/

An independent assessment of the game here.

From a Rochdale fan.

[DIFH]

Westbars Spireite, on 10 January 2016 - 12:17 PM, said:

From a Rochdale fan.

Read the rest of the thread..

[Spire-Heights]

Also, watched the goals back a few times now. Gardner did well with the assist for Novak and how well did SEB do. When Novak headed the ball on, SEB had a lot of ground to make up to even get to the ball first, let alone take it and curl it in T Henry style finish. Didn't realise how good that goal was first time of watching it.

I think SEB also set up the first for O'shea.

This post has been edited by Spire-Heights: 10 January 2016 - 12:29 PM

[sophocles]

Spire-Heights, on 10 January 2016 - 12:27 PM, said:

Also, watched the goals back a few times now. Gardner did well with the assist for Novak and how well did SEB do. When Novak headed the ball on, SEB had a lot of ground to make up to even get to the ball first, let alone take it and curl it in T Henry style finish. Didn't realise how good that goal was first time of watching it.

I think SEB also set up the first for O'shea.

Not bad for an overweight unfit has been 😁

[Westbars Spireite]

Dave In Footie Heaven, on 10 January 2016 - 12:19 PM, said:

Read the rest of the thread..

I know it's a Sunday but I'm not bored enough to want to read match reports on all Rochdale's games this season.

[DIFH]

Westbars Spireite, on 10 January 2016 - 01:30 PM, said:

I know it's a Sunday but I'm not bored enough to want to read match reports on all Rochdale's games this season.

You obviously read the link but I can't believe you didn't read the following few posts, but enough to be pedantic - good lad.

[eddymelt]

Dave In Footie Heaven, on 10 January 2016 - 12:19 PM, said:

Read the rest of the thread..

Very complimentary of us

[moondog]

If Novak was offside for the second disallowed goal, then Rochdale's second should have been chalked off for the same reason as a Rochdale player was stood in front of Tommy as the header went in

[Mr Mercury]

moondog, on 10 January 2016 - 03:33 PM, said:

If Novak was offside for the second disallowed goal, then Rochdale's second should have been chalked off for the same reason as a Rochdale player was stood in front of Tommy as the header went in

But looks like Hird playing him onside.

[Elmer Fudd's Thick Lip]

lindo-spireite, on 09 January 2016 - 10:25 PM, said:

What are you on about? What has Chris Morgan got to do with anything?

Some agenda as evidenced by the anti CM comments in the other thread.

As if Morgan is the one instructing players to dive, and if that was the case why isn't Dema pointing the finger at Danny as well?


I know ,let's all blame the passionate ex Blade who is quite frankly an absolute breath of fresh air, just because of his behaviour in last year's game against United.

Keith, get a grip pal.

This post has been edited by Dave Wallers 'tache: 10 January 2016 - 04:25 PM

[moondog]

Mr Mercury, on 10 January 2016 - 03:48 PM, said:

But looks like Hird playing him onside.

Maybe, only watched it the once, since listened to the post match interview with Danny (Radio Sheffield) where the ref told him it came off Novak, making it a ridiculous decision

[Spire-Heights]

Mr Mercury, on 10 January 2016 - 03:48 PM, said:

But looks like Hird playing him onside.

Correct.

[Mr Mercury]

moondog, on 10 January 2016 - 04:01 PM, said:

Maybe, only watched it the once, since listened to the post match interview with Danny (Radio Sheffield) where the ref told him it came off Novak, making it a ridiculous decision

Yes true

[Westbars Spireite]

Dave In Footie Heaven, on 10 January 2016 - 02:42 PM, said:

You obviously read the link but I can't believe you didn't read the following few posts, but enough to be pedantic - good lad.

You aren't very good at making your point clear these days.