[ELTON 2020]

Goku, on 23 November 2015 - 10:43 PM, said:

Was actually gonna make a thread about this earlier today but forgot.

What is the case of Liam O'Neill? He looks, erm, a bit rubbish from what I've seen so far. Why did we sign him? Is he gonna come good?

I demand an answer damn it.

No problem developing him as a player - if he's on big money, then I have a problem!!!

[ELTON 2020]

Goku, on 23 November 2015 - 10:43 PM, said:

Was actually gonna make a thread about this earlier today but forgot.

What is the case of Liam O'Neill? He looks, erm, a bit rubbish from what I've seen so far. Why did we sign him? Is he gonna come good?

I demand an answer damn it.

[brianclose]

Elton John 1866, on 24 November 2015 - 01:39 PM, said:

No problem developing him as a player - if he's on big money, then I have a problem!!!

Well we paid a fee for him and were told at the time there were a few others chasing him so I doubt he's on peanuts.

So far he appears to have no discernible attributes apart from occasionally controlling the ball and picking a short pass.

[brianclose]

Elton John 1866, on 24 November 2015 - 01:39 PM, said:

No problem developing him as a player - if he's on big money, then I have a problem!!!

Well we paid a fee for him and were told at the time there were a few others chasing him so I doubt he's on peanuts.

So far he appears to have no discernible attributes apart from occasionally controlling the ball and picking a short pass.

[hilly81]

brianclose, on 24 November 2015 - 02:11 PM, said:

Well we paid a fee for him and were told at the time there were a few others chasing him so I doubt he's on peanuts.

So far he appears to have no discernible attributes apart from occasionally controlling the ball and picking a short pass.

He's the most disappointing signing by a mile for me.

[dim view]

brianclose, on 24 November 2015 - 02:07 PM, said:

Well we paid a fee for him and were told at the time there were a few others chasing him so I doubt he's on peanuts.

So far he appears to have no discernible attributes apart from occasionally controlling the ball and picking a short pass.

No fee, big sell on. Source: DS Q and A session.

[Westbars Spireite]

Mr Mercury, on 24 November 2015 - 01:22 PM, said:

No he did stress that they work on the silly mistakes in training, he was quite categoric on that, hence that's why he feels they will iron themselves out.

Can you clarify whether that's making them or avoiding them.

[Westbars Spireite]

brianclose, on 24 November 2015 - 02:07 PM, said:

Well we paid a fee for him and were told at the time there were a few others chasing him so I doubt he's on peanuts.

So far he appears to have no discernible attributes apart from occasionally controlling the ball and picking a short pass.

It was hinting we'd paid a fee for him but I think it's been subsequently said we didn't.

Based on what I've seen so far that's just as well.

[dim view]

60s 70s Spireite, on 24 November 2015 - 10:23 AM, said:

DV, what is the reference to VAT you referred to? is it to do with the Trust?

Freelander asked about the high VAT payment after we had mused about it on here several weeks ago after receiving the accounts. I think I suggested at the time that the Trust might have a VAT problem. Anyway, that was rubbish and the auditor said the payment was down to transfer fees.

[azul]

jack bauer, on 24 November 2015 - 12:16 PM, said:

took a look but can't stomach 32minutes of this guy droning on

Trouble without listening to them is it right to criticise him for his inaccuracies and inconsistent and general incoherance

Nobody says listening to him guff for 30 minutes is easy but it has to be done. I have even found myself rewinding to check, did he really say that!!

[Westbars Spireite]

azul, on 24 November 2015 - 02:36 PM, said:

Trouble without listening to them is it right to criticise him for his inaccuracies and inconsistent and general incoherance

Nobody says listening to him guff for 30 minutes is easy but it has to be done. I have even found myself rewinding to check, did he really say that!!

If you've done the listening and can confirm the above I'm quite happy with that.

[azul]

Westbars Spireite, on 24 November 2015 - 02:38 PM, said:

If you've done the listening and can confirm the above I'm quite happy with that.

Oh yes I can

I don't blame for not being too bright but I do blame him for thinking all football fans are as stupid as he is. I

[Westbars Spireite]

azul, on 24 November 2015 - 02:46 PM, said:

Oh yes I can

I don't blame for not being too bright but I do blame him for thinking all football fans are as stupid as he is. I

No. But I think he's that special kind of stupid where he has no concept of his own stupidity. Non-malicious in that respect and probably not his own fault.

[azul]

Westbars Spireite, on 24 November 2015 - 02:57 PM, said:

No. But I think he's that special kind of stupid where he has no concept of his own stupidity. Non-malicious in that respect and probably not his own fault.

Someone should tell him

[dtp]

dim view, on 24 November 2015 - 08:47 AM, said:

The problem (I think) is that CFC paid the Directors their interest after deducting the tax, but then did not pass the tax on to the Tax Man.

That is exactly it. There is a special tax form (possibly a CT61) which the tax office send out and has to be completed on a quarterly basis and the appropriate tax paid over.

[Westbars Spireite]

azul, on 24 November 2015 - 03:07 PM, said:

Someone should tell him

He wouldn't understand.

[dtp]

dim view, on 24 November 2015 - 10:13 AM, said:

This is wor I think.

The Trust does provide income streams to CFC but they are so indirect or historical or small that DA/CT don't recognise them.

Contrary to my belief, having read stories about companies taking out 25 year leases and all the space being allocated, the Trust is not thriving and had to ask CFC to pay the wages and to forego the lease payments.

There is inadequate contractual paperwork which has resulted in disputes.

Somebody, probably John Croot, should make a clear statement about the current situation and the future of the Trust. To me, it has clear beneficial objectives and should be able to thrive if it's terms of reference are agreed with CFC.

John Croot was there last night but said absolutely nothing and preferring to let others field all related questions!!!

[dtp]

dim view, on 24 November 2015 - 10:13 AM, said:

This is wor I think.

The Trust does provide income streams to CFC but they are so indirect or historical or small that DA/CT don't recognise them.

Contrary to my belief, having read stories about companies taking out 25 year leases and all the space being allocated, the Trust is not thriving and had to ask CFC to pay the wages and to forego the lease payments.

There is inadequate contractual paperwork which has resulted in disputes.

Somebody, probably John Croot, should make a clear statement about the current situation and the future of the Trust. To me, it has clear beneficial objectives and should be able to thrive if it's terms of reference are agreed with CFC.

John Croot was there last night but said absolutely nothing and preferring to let others field all related questions!!!

[dtp]

Mr Mercury, on 24 November 2015 - 10:54 AM, said:

I thought CT said 4 in his last 18 games last night, but happy to be corrected.

Can't remember him saying that Mr Mercury.

I do remember Doyle having a bit of a dry spell then a flourish in his last 2 or 3 games for us but I don't think CT mentioned 18 games.

Must say though, for all the flack CT gets, I thought he did ok last night. Yes he might have made a few mistakes but it isn't easy trying to answer questions from the floor when you don't know what is coming at you next and you haven't got a ready made note to help. He isn't a politician avoiding the question and answering questions not asked instead - he tried to answer the questions which were asked.

[dtp]

Mr Mercury, on 24 November 2015 - 11:07 AM, said:

So he scored 3 in his last 2 games for us and TEN in his last 18, that better than a goal every two games, and Cook was on the verge of dropping him!... Oh dear dear CT, what to think now!

And 2 in his previous 6 games.