[Half Full]

Easy to be cynical and maybe there is reason to be. All I know from visiting last night is that the fans were really friendly, interested in us before the game and wished us well after. Tremendous support for their team. Street "stewards" really helpful when I was looking for parking, clearly ensuring club and community work together by making sure parking not encouraged where in appropriate. All in all a really enjoyable visit to a club where all the fans really seem to want everyone to have a good experience. Tremendous ethos if you ask me.

[Search & Destroy]

Half Full, on 10 November 2015 - 07:51 AM, said:

Easy to be cynical and maybe there is reason to be. All I know from visiting last night is that the fans were really friendly, interested in us before the game and wished us well after. Tremendous support for their team. Street "stewards" really helpful when I was looking for parking, clearly ensuring club and community work together by making sure parking not encouraged where in appropriate. All in all a really enjoyable visit to a club where all the fans really seem to want everyone to have a good experience. Tremendous ethos if you ask me.

Their support is better than anything I've seen or heard in the FL, Portsmouth were good mind.

[Johnnyspireite7]

Search and Destroy, on 10 November 2015 - 07:39 AM, said:

Now you're just showing your ignorance.

Irony!!!!

[Search & Destroy]

Johnnyspireite7, on 10 November 2015 - 08:09 AM, said:

Irony!!!!

Like bronzy, or goldy, but made of iron?

[NOFX]

They need to form a split off from this team the popular front for the liberation of football..... What have the fa ever done for us.?

[LuSiVe]

And the lovely stewards didn't make us ladies use the portaloos but instead let us through to use the toilets in the main stand!
Discrimination I have no problem with

[Wooden Spoon]

Westbars Spireite, on 10 November 2015 - 07:20 AM, said:

They have. AFC Liverpool.

http://www.afcliverp...-afc-liverpool/

[Goku]

LuSiVe, on 10 November 2015 - 09:24 AM, said:

And the lovely stewards didn't make us ladies use the portaloos but instead let us through to use the toilets in the main stand!
Discrimination I have no problem with

Can't believe they didn't have real toilets. Those type of portaloos are good for one thing only.

[bifocart]

Half Full, on 10 November 2015 - 07:51 AM, said:

Easy to be cynical and maybe there is reason to be. All I know from visiting last night is that the fans were really friendly, interested in us before the game and wished us well after. Tremendous support for their team. Street "stewards" really helpful when I was looking for parking, clearly ensuring club and community work together by making sure parking not encouraged where in appropriate. All in all a really enjoyable visit to a club where all the fans really seem to want everyone to have a good experience. Tremendous ethos if you ask me.

bit of a gobfull coming but here goes...
Yeah, FCUM'S fans and directors strike me as a decent lot. I saw em in the first season when they were bring massive crowds to grounds smaller than Staveley and they were righteous,funny,and a bit mad. But the newness is wearing off, momentum is slowing and they are gradually becoming just another small club. Theyve had the same manager all along,and the no-sponsor thing is still going on, and these are good things but when ( and sadly it is "when") that changes what will be left? I saw a banner in the crowd: Rochdale Rebels and a few things occurred to me; if youd been an out-of-town Manchester United supporter and really wanted to rebel against the wider culture represented by the Glaziers then why not just watch your home town club, and put the brass you spend on a saturday into your local economy? Clearly theres a lot of people in the NW/Greater Manchester who have been priced out of the highest level of the game, but they arent showing up at Bury, Rochdale, Oldham etc either, because they dont identify with those clubs. Theres a lack of interest and an unwillingness to jump completely off the red and white glorywagon. FCUM have done well to not only continue to attract 2000+ of the dissaffected and their grassroots work has been impressive , but they arent building on it anymore and ultimately the legacy of the original rebellion is as much in evidence at Salford City as at Broadhurst Park.
FCUM have their integrity and their punkrock indie credentials, but their little pond has been invaded and rather than BT etc their real worry should be the residual glamour of the class of 92
Through their hard won successes FCUM have provided Gigsy, Butty Scholsey etc (and whoever does the real work at Salford)with several years worth of free market research on how to present yourself to the media as some sort of Artisan Alternative, position yourself as a selfless community asset to locals and gather support from the refuseniks and the priced-out on Utd’s doorstep . The fast tracking of Salford into cuddly non league flavour of the month is the result.
I hope its just a media event, that the Salford adventure fades and the club is returned to the handfull of original supporters who actually like thier football at small scale. Its been a laugh hearing Nevilley going on about how football at this level is the real thing, how you can stand on a grassbank and drink pints etc when you know damn well that their plan is to concrete over that grass bank as soon as possible.
For all their recent piety, FCUM are a genuine grassroots phenomena, and good luck to em. Its just difficult to see them advancing further without compromise , particularly in the face of the media offensive coming out of Salford. and even if they do make the league I wonder how attractive a mid table side in the fourth tier will be to the Rochdale Rebels? Travelling to pay League prices to watch the very thing they used to travel to Old Trafford to avoid.

This post has been edited by bifocart: 11 November 2015 - 12:05 AM

[Wooden Spoon]

bifocart said:

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bit of a gobfull coming but here goes...
Yeah, FCUM'S fans and directors strike me as a decent lot. I saw em in the first season when they were bring massive crowds to grounds smaller than Staveley and they were righteous,funny,and a bit mad. But the newness is wearing off, momentum is slowing and they are gradually becoming just another small club. Theyve had the same manager all along,and the no-sponsor thing is still going on, and these are good things but when ( and sadly it is "when") that changes what will be left? I saw a banner in the crowd: Rochdale Rebels and a few things occurred to me; if youd been an out-of-town Manchester United supporter and really wanted to rebel against the wider culture represented by the Glaziers then why not just watch your home town club, and put the brass you spend on a saturday into your local economy? Clearly theres a lot of people in the NW/Greater Manchester who have been priced out of the highest level of the game, but they arent showing up at Bury, Rochdale, Oldham etc either, because they dont identify with those clubs. Theres a lack of interest and an unwillingness to jump completely off the red and white glorywagon. FCUM have done well to not only continue to attract 2000+ of the dissaffected and their grassroots work has been impressive , but they arent building on it anymore and ultimately the legacy of the original rebellion is as much in evidence at Salford City as at Broadhurst Park.
FCUM have their integrity and their punkrock indie credentials, but their little pond has been invaded and rather than BT etc their real worry should be the residual glamour of the class of 92
Through their hard won successes FCUM have provided Gigsy, Butty Scholsey etc (and whoever does the real work at Salford)with several years worth of free market research on how to present yourself to the media as some sort of Artisan Alternative, position yourself as a selfless community asset to locals and gather support from the refuseniks and the priced-out on Utd’s doorstep . The fast tracking of Salford into cuddly non league flavour of the month is the result.
I hope its just a media event, that the Salford adventure fades and the club is returned to the handfull of original supporters who actually like thier football at small scale. Its been a laugh hearing Nevilley going on about how football at this level is the real thing, how you can stand on a grassbank and drink pints etc when you know damn well that their plan is to concrete over that grass bank as soon as possible.
For all their recent piety, FCUM are a genuine grassroots phenomena, and good luck to em. Its just difficult to see them advancing further without compromise , particularly in the face of the media offensive coming out of Salford. and even if they do make the league I wonder how attractive a mid table side in the fourth tier will be to the Rochdale Rebels? Travelling to pay League prices to watch the very thing they used to travel to Old Trafford to avoid.

Great post, I enjoyed reading that

[bifocart]

a kick in the balls, on 11 November 2015 - 04:37 AM, said:

Great post, I enjoyed reading that

Cheers youth,nice of you.

[azul]

bifocart, on 10 November 2015 - 11:52 PM, said:

bit of a gobfull coming but here goes...
Yeah, FCUM'S fans and directors strike me as a decent lot. I saw em in the first season when they were bring massive crowds to grounds smaller than Staveley and they were righteous,funny,and a bit mad. But the newness is wearing off, momentum is slowing and they are gradually becoming just another small club. Theyve had the same manager all along,and the no-sponsor thing is still going on, and these are good things but when ( and sadly it is "when") that changes what will be left? I saw a banner in the crowd: Rochdale Rebels and a few things occurred to me; if youd been an out-of-town Manchester United supporter and really wanted to rebel against the wider culture represented by the Glaziers then why not just watch your home town club, and put the brass you spend on a saturday into your local economy? Clearly theres a lot of people in the NW/Greater Manchester who have been priced out of the highest level of the game, but they arent showing up at Bury, Rochdale, Oldham etc either, because they dont identify with those clubs. Theres a lack of interest and an unwillingness to jump completely off the red and white glorywagon. FCUM have done well to not only continue to attract 2000+ of the dissaffected and their grassroots work has been impressive , but they arent building on it anymore and ultimately the legacy of the original rebellion is as much in evidence at Salford City as at Broadhurst Park.
FCUM have their integrity and their punkrock indie credentials, but their little pond has been invaded and rather than BT etc their real worry should be the residual glamour of the class of 92
Through their hard won successes FCUM have provided Gigsy, Butty Scholsey etc (and whoever does the real work at Salford)with several years worth of free market research on how to present yourself to the media as some sort of Artisan Alternative, position yourself as a selfless community asset to locals and gather support from the refuseniks and the priced-out on Utd’s doorstep . The fast tracking of Salford into cuddly non league flavour of the month is the result.
I hope its just a media event, that the Salford adventure fades and the club is returned to the handfull of original supporters who actually like thier football at small scale. Its been a laugh hearing Nevilley going on about how football at this level is the real thing, how you can stand on a grassbank and drink pints etc when you know damn well that their plan is to concrete over that grass bank as soon as possible.
For all their recent piety, FCUM are a genuine grassroots phenomena, and good luck to em. Its just difficult to see them advancing further without compromise , particularly in the face of the media offensive coming out of Salford. and even if they do make the league I wonder how attractive a mid table side in the fourth tier will be to the Rochdale Rebels? Travelling to pay League prices to watch the very thing they used to travel to Old Trafford to avoid.

Agree with what you say about FCUM and especially Salford

[DerbySpireite59]

bifocart, on 10 November 2015 - 11:52 PM, said:

bit of a gobfull coming but here goes...
Yeah, FCUM'S fans and directors strike me as a decent lot. I saw em in the first season when they were bring massive crowds to grounds smaller than Staveley and they were righteous,funny,and a bit mad. But the newness is wearing off, momentum is slowing and they are gradually becoming just another small club. Theyve had the same manager all along,and the no-sponsor thing is still going on, and these are good things but when ( and sadly it is "when") that changes what will be left? I saw a banner in the crowd: Rochdale Rebels and a few things occurred to me; if youd been an out-of-town Manchester United supporter and really wanted to rebel against the wider culture represented by the Glaziers then why not just watch your home town club, and put the brass you spend on a saturday into your local economy? Clearly theres a lot of people in the NW/Greater Manchester who have been priced out of the highest level of the game, but they arent showing up at Bury, Rochdale, Oldham etc either, because they dont identify with those clubs. Theres a lack of interest and an unwillingness to jump completely off the red and white glorywagon. FCUM have done well to not only continue to attract 2000+ of the dissaffected and their grassroots work has been impressive , but they arent building on it anymore and ultimately the legacy of the original rebellion is as much in evidence at Salford City as at Broadhurst Park.
FCUM have their integrity and their punkrock indie credentials, but their little pond has been invaded and rather than BT etc their real worry should be the residual glamour of the class of 92
Through their hard won successes FCUM have provided Gigsy, Butty Scholsey etc (and whoever does the real work at Salford)with several years worth of free market research on how to present yourself to the media as some sort of Artisan Alternative, position yourself as a selfless community asset to locals and gather support from the refuseniks and the priced-out on Utd’s doorstep . The fast tracking of Salford into cuddly non league flavour of the month is the result.
I hope its just a media event, that the Salford adventure fades and the club is returned to the handfull of original supporters who actually like thier football at small scale. Its been a laugh hearing Nevilley going on about how football at this level is the real thing, how you can stand on a grassbank and drink pints etc when you know damn well that their plan is to concrete over that grass bank as soon as possible.
For all their recent piety, FCUM are a genuine grassroots phenomena, and good luck to em. Its just difficult to see them advancing further without compromise , particularly in the face of the media offensive coming out of Salford. and even if they do make the league I wonder how attractive a mid table side in the fourth tier will be to the Rochdale Rebels? Travelling to pay League prices to watch the very thing they used to travel to Old Trafford to avoid.

https://en.wikipedia...ater_Manchester This lists all of those tier 9-10 clubs that are based in either Trafford (Man Utd) or Manchester itself (FC Utd of Moston) that these fans could have gone and supported, invested in and perhaps even governed.I think that's what I would do, if say Town were to ever fold completely, but one never knows 'til it happens eh? Let's hope we never find out. That, or Town get bought by a multi-billionaire from the USA, which we'd all hate. Wouldn't we?

[timshorts]

Whilst I hope (due to their Man U connections) that FCUM lose every game between now and the end of eternity (unless they play AFC Liverpool), I wholly agree with their views re the reporter on the touchline thing. I do not want to see what is going on in the dressing room at half time. I do not want the managers etc to be questioned while the game is going on. It's not that I'm not a bit interested but just let them get on with their jobs FFS and get the reporters get back behind the Fing barrier. Sooner or later there's going to be a set-to when one of the managers gets interrupted when shouting out tactics or when something important happens and he misses it, then the manager will probably end up getting an FA charge for what he says/does.

It felt like we were being shown a video of a funeral following the body going into the burning chamber interviewing some of the crying mourners, or at a battlescene inappropriately asking some guy bleeding to death for a close up of the blood and then asking if it hurt.

The reporting was Bo11ocks, teams being described as "Step 7", which they clearly aren't as they wouldn't be in FA Cup in the first place if they were. and GET THAT IAN WRIGHT OFF THE TV. If he is going to be that blatantly biased (in favour of Salford City in this instance), then he shouldn't be interviewed. He just winds everybody up. Even Sky have stopped Phil Thompson watching the Liverpool matches. It's embarrassing.

This post has been edited by timshorts: 11 November 2015 - 02:01 PM

[Misnomer]

timshorts, on 11 November 2015 - 02:00 PM, said:

Whilst I hope (due to their Man U connections) that FCUM lose every game between now and the end of eternity (unless they play AFC Liverpool), I wholly agree with their views re the reporter on the touchline thing. I do not want to see what is going on in the dressing room at half time. I do not want the managers etc to be questioned while the game is going on. It's not that I'm not a bit interested but just let them get on with their jobs FFS and get the reporters get back behind the Fing barrier. Sooner or later there's going to be a set-to when one of the managers gets interrupted when shouting out tactics or when something important happens and he misses it, then the manager will probably end up getting an FA charge for what he says/does.

It felt like we were being shown a video of a funeral following the body going into the burning chamber interviewing some of the crying mourners, or at a battlescene inappropriately asking some guy bleeding to death for a close up of the blood and then asking if it hurt.

The reporting was Bo11ocks, teams being described as "Step 7", which they clearly aren't as they wouldn't be in FA Cup in the first place if they were. and GET THAT IAN WRIGHT OFF THE TV. If he is going to be that blatantly biased (in favour of Salford City in this instance), then he shouldn't be interviewed. He just winds everybody up. Even Sky have stopped Phil Thompson watching the Liverpool matches. It's embarrassing.

What about Trevor Sinclair giving advice to Danny Webber; not biased in the slightest lol

[azul]

derbyspireite52, on 11 November 2015 - 01:58 PM, said:

https://en.wikipedia...ater_Manchester This lists all of those tier 9-10 clubs that are based in either Trafford (Man Utd) or Manchester itself (FC Utd of Moston) that these fans could have gone and supported, invested in and perhaps even governed.I think that's what I would do, if say Town were to ever fold completely, but one never knows 'til it happens eh? Let's hope we never find out. That, or Town get bought by a multi-billionaire from the USA, which we'd all hate. Wouldn't we?

If CFC folded they would reform as phoenix club with no debt and would probably be a 'fan owned' club with an IPS structure like FCUM or CFSS

Surely that would be worthwhile

[Cartman]

azul, on 11 November 2015 - 02:15 PM, said:

If CFC folded they would reform as phoenix club with no debt and would probably be a 'fan owned' club with an IPS structure like FCUM or CFSS

Surely that would be worthwhile

if we folded then probably, yes

Man U didn't fold

The hypocrites were quite happy with the capitalist nature of football when it brought them the treble and that famous night in Barcelona

Yet someone buys them and they spit the dummy, despite that persons business plan meaning he had to keep the club successful

Bunch of attention seeking idiots, nothing more

[bifocart]

derbyspireite52, on 11 November 2015 - 01:58 PM, said:

https://en.wikipedia...ater_Manchester This lists all of those tier 9-10 clubs that are based in either Trafford (Man Utd) or Manchester itself (FC Utd of Moston) that these fans could have gone and supported, invested in and perhaps even governed.I think that's what I would do, if say Town were to ever fold completely, but one never knows 'til it happens eh? Let's hope we never find out. That, or Town get bought by a multi-billionaire from the USA, which we'd all hate. Wouldn't we?

yep, that kind of good fortune only brings a different kind of instability.

[azul]

Cartman, on 11 November 2015 - 02:19 PM, said:

if we folded then probably, yes

Man U didn't fold

The hypocrites were quite happy with the capitalist nature of football when it brought them the treble and that famous night in Barcelona

Yet someone buys them and they spit the dummy, despite that persons business plan meaning he had to keep the club successful

Bunch of attention seeking idiots, nothing more

Thought we had moved on from FCUM's situation actually but obviously not

As you are still at your attention seeking best and still banging on about it, didn't these fans eventually reject the owners and commercialisation and set up a grass roots club. I don't see how that is hypocritical unless they watch Manure when FCUM are away (unlikely) or subscribe to Sky Sports (more likely)

[Cartman]

azul, on 11 November 2015 - 03:52 PM, said:

Thought we had moved on from FCUM's situation actually but obviously not

As you are still at your attention seeking best and still banging on about it, didn't these fans eventually reject the owners and commercialisation and set up a grass roots club. I don't see how that is hypocritical unless they watch Manure when FCUM are away (unlikely) or subscribe to Sky Sports (more likely)

hark at her!

plenty of the fcum morons still follow 'Big' United