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In my youth, when money was no object, I went all the time. Time and family circumstances meant about 15 years ago I had to choose, watch my team or dedicate time to family. I chose my family, and whilst I still supported the Spireites my commitment started to wane.
Since that time I've been 'take it or leave it' and probably miss half the home games every season on average.
Now, in the last 2 years I'd begun to get the bug again, So much so that I was considering buying a season ticket for the first time in my life. I was taking the boy to matches and he was starting to get really into it. This I thought was my cue to introduce a new generation of Spireite and to become a full-time supporter once more.
However the departure of Paul Cook made me check myself and I decided on balance not to purchase one - I was worried about the future. Now, I'm kinda glad I didn't.
I spoke to the boy about it only the other day and told him about the departure of Tendayi. He shrugged, said he wasn't bothered now that all his favourite players were leaving. The spark has been knocked out of him, and I can't be bothered to gee him up.
So, I return to my status as part-timer, going when I can afford it and when family commitments allow. Booking my holiday last month, the dates covered the start of the season - I never gave it a Second thought. The holiday won! I feel little enthusiasm at the moment and am hopeful but not optimistic - I still support this club, I understand all the counter-arguments but at the end of the day they have lost the opportunity to add 2 new ST-holders.
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Posted 02 August 2015 - 05:33 PM
Dave In Footie Heaven, on 02 August 2015 - 04:51 PM, said:
I agree with all of that but we are not the only club leaving signings until the last minute - there are players/agents holding out until the last minute hoping to feed off of the desperation of clubs just as we are viewing the situation thinking that there are players also desperate to sign because they haven't received any good enough offers.
This apparent cat and mouse game will go on right until the deadline but with the statements from DS it could all blow up in his face because this is football and we all know nothing is straight forward.
This apparent cat and mouse game will go on right until the deadline but with the statements from DS it could all blow up in his face because this is football and we all know nothing is straight forward.
Dave this isn't a cat and mouse game, it was obvious the club wanted players off the books.
Why wouldn't you sort jimmy Ryan's contract out with a year left on it?
Why aren't we sorting Morsy a deal out now?
Same applies to Tendi, why weren't these contracts sorted to keep hold of our assets and make this big promotion push we were sold at the start of the previous season.
The reasons why was because the club couldn't afford it, it needed to balance the books and hence the sales, even after Doyle and Cooper were off the books and all that money coming in from those.
The club can't afford to bring new players in....it's blatantly obvious. Ryan and Roberts have been gone nearly a month, ask yourself, where are their replacements?
The combination of wages of Since 1st July 2014
Out - Richards, Smith, Cooper, Doyle, Roberts, Ryan, Clucas, Tendi
In - Clucas, Jones, SEB and Harrison and numerous youth players.
We must be 20k a week in wages better off ( or roughly about £1million a year, surprise surprise, sorry Cilla) plus an extra minimum of £3millipn quid profit.
If the accounts don't show the clubs debt round about 5.5 million (down from 8 million) then something is seriously wrong.
The club have a choice to gradually bring the debt down with the so called 30percent funds back in the players fund, if so 30 percent is about £950k shopping bag.
Where is this money, why aren't we signing players left right and centre?
It doesn't add up, the 30percent was stated to appease the fans....no money has been spent a week before the season apart from one wage.
It's all spin, support buy outlandish statements such as 'the team will be stronger at the start of the season than last' absolute tosh fed to appease the fans who have bought season tickets.
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Posted 02 August 2015 - 05:44 PM
Tylerdurdencfc, on 02 August 2015 - 05:33 PM, said:
Dave this isn't a cat and mouse game, it was obvious the club wanted players off the books.
Why wouldn't you sort jimmy Ryan's contract out with a year left on it?
Why aren't we sorting Morsy a deal out now?
Same applies to Tendi, why weren't these contracts sorted to keep hold of our assets and make this big promotion push we were sold at the start of the previous season.
The reasons why was because the club couldn't afford it, it needed to balance the books and hence the sales, even after Doyle and Cooper were off the books and all that money coming in from those.
The club can't afford to bring new players in....it's blatantly obvious. Ryan and Roberts have been gone nearly a month, ask yourself, where are their replacements?
The combination of wages of Since 1st July 2014
Out - Richards, Smith, Cooper, Doyle, Roberts, Ryan, Clucas, Tendi
In - Clucas, Jones, SEB and Harrison and numerous youth players.
We must be 20k a week in wages better off ( or roughly about £1million a year, surprise surprise, sorry Cilla) plus an extra minimum of £3millipn quid profit.
If the accounts don't show the clubs debt round about 5.5 million (down from 8 million) then something is seriously wrong.
The club have a choice to gradually bring the debt down with the so called 30percent funds back in the players fund, if so 30 percent is about £950k shopping bag.
Where is this money, why aren't we signing players left right and centre?
It doesn't add up, the 30percent was stated to appease the fans....no money has been spent a week before the season apart from one wage.
It's all spin, support buy outlandish statements such as 'the team will be stronger at the start of the season than last' absolute tosh fed to appease the fans who have bought season tickets.
Why wouldn't you sort jimmy Ryan's contract out with a year left on it?
Why aren't we sorting Morsy a deal out now?
Same applies to Tendi, why weren't these contracts sorted to keep hold of our assets and make this big promotion push we were sold at the start of the previous season.
The reasons why was because the club couldn't afford it, it needed to balance the books and hence the sales, even after Doyle and Cooper were off the books and all that money coming in from those.
The club can't afford to bring new players in....it's blatantly obvious. Ryan and Roberts have been gone nearly a month, ask yourself, where are their replacements?
The combination of wages of Since 1st July 2014
Out - Richards, Smith, Cooper, Doyle, Roberts, Ryan, Clucas, Tendi
In - Clucas, Jones, SEB and Harrison and numerous youth players.
We must be 20k a week in wages better off ( or roughly about £1million a year, surprise surprise, sorry Cilla) plus an extra minimum of £3millipn quid profit.
If the accounts don't show the clubs debt round about 5.5 million (down from 8 million) then something is seriously wrong.
The club have a choice to gradually bring the debt down with the so called 30percent funds back in the players fund, if so 30 percent is about £950k shopping bag.
Where is this money, why aren't we signing players left right and centre?
It doesn't add up, the 30percent was stated to appease the fans....no money has been spent a week before the season apart from one wage.
It's all spin, support buy outlandish statements such as 'the team will be stronger at the start of the season than last' absolute tosh fed to appease the fans who have bought season tickets.
I fully agree about spin but you are offering figures which you cannot substanciate. You do not know the full running costs of the club; you don't know the full debt situation and you certainly don't know the proportion of the income that is going into the new reserve players, the cylinders ground which is rumoured to be back on the adgenda. We've saved salaries by not signing abyone in July.
In the main the players that have gone wanted it to happen, we'll never know how hard we tried to keep them but the chairmans choice of wanting some funds back has to be addressed.
Never mind the statement that the budget is the same, it well may be but it is being spread over a wider area and an increase in playing staff.
You've got it in one - SPIN SPIN SPIN.
God I hate this league.
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Posted 02 August 2015 - 05:45 PM
The Richards and Smith wages were swallowed up with the wage rises for the rest of the squad following promotion. The Cooper money covered the short fall and gave us the chance to sign boly and maybe clucas. Harrison came in I assume to cover the then soon to depart Doyle and some of that money brought in lavery and some useless lonanees as well as covering some losses. That might explain some of it I suppose
Here we go again!
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Posted 02 August 2015 - 05:45 PM
Tylerdurdencfc, on 02 August 2015 - 05:33 PM, said:
Dave this isn't a cat and mouse game, it was obvious the club wanted players off the books.
Why wouldn't you sort jimmy Ryan's contract out with a year left on it?
Why aren't we sorting Morsy a deal out now?
Same applies to Tendi, why weren't these contracts sorted to keep hold of our assets and make this big promotion push we were sold at the start of the previous season.
The reasons why was because the club couldn't afford it, it needed to balance the books and hence the sales, even after Doyle and Cooper were off the books and all that money coming in from those.
The club can't afford to bring new players in....it's blatantly obvious. Ryan and Roberts have been gone nearly a month, ask yourself, where are their replacements?
The combination of wages of Since 1st July 2014
Out - Richards, Smith, Cooper, Doyle, Roberts, Ryan, Clucas, Tendi
In - Clucas, Jones, SEB and Harrison and numerous youth players.
We must be 20k a week in wages better off ( or roughly about £1million a year, surprise surprise, sorry Cilla) plus an extra minimum of £3millipn quid profit.
If the accounts don't show the clubs debt round about 5.5 million (down from 8 million) then something is seriously wrong.
The club have a choice to gradually bring the debt down with the so called 30percent funds back in the players fund, if so 30 percent is about £950k shopping bag.
Where is this money, why aren't we signing players left right and centre?
It doesn't add up, the 30percent was stated to appease the fans....no money has been spent a week before the season apart from one wage.
It's all spin, support buy outlandish statements such as 'the team will be stronger at the start of the season than last' absolute tosh fed to appease the fans who have bought season tickets.
Why wouldn't you sort jimmy Ryan's contract out with a year left on it?
Why aren't we sorting Morsy a deal out now?
Same applies to Tendi, why weren't these contracts sorted to keep hold of our assets and make this big promotion push we were sold at the start of the previous season.
The reasons why was because the club couldn't afford it, it needed to balance the books and hence the sales, even after Doyle and Cooper were off the books and all that money coming in from those.
The club can't afford to bring new players in....it's blatantly obvious. Ryan and Roberts have been gone nearly a month, ask yourself, where are their replacements?
The combination of wages of Since 1st July 2014
Out - Richards, Smith, Cooper, Doyle, Roberts, Ryan, Clucas, Tendi
In - Clucas, Jones, SEB and Harrison and numerous youth players.
We must be 20k a week in wages better off ( or roughly about £1million a year, surprise surprise, sorry Cilla) plus an extra minimum of £3millipn quid profit.
If the accounts don't show the clubs debt round about 5.5 million (down from 8 million) then something is seriously wrong.
The club have a choice to gradually bring the debt down with the so called 30percent funds back in the players fund, if so 30 percent is about £950k shopping bag.
Where is this money, why aren't we signing players left right and centre?
It doesn't add up, the 30percent was stated to appease the fans....no money has been spent a week before the season apart from one wage.
It's all spin, support buy outlandish statements such as 'the team will be stronger at the start of the season than last' absolute tosh fed to appease the fans who have bought season tickets.
Yep, and if you don't trot out the company line, or question the integrity then, well, you're not a "fan"
I refuse to continue to put my hand in pocket amidst the smokescreen and lies.
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Posted 02 August 2015 - 05:47 PM
Stokespireite, on 02 August 2015 - 12:39 PM, said:
Fair enough the club doesnt need so called 'supporters' like you ...... dont bother coming back on the bandwagon in future years when we doing really well and in jpt finals and promotions/play offs etc.......
The club needs every fan it can pull in fickle or otherwise, casual or regular.
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Posted 02 August 2015 - 06:09 PM
The Peoples Champion, on 02 August 2015 - 03:09 PM, said:
If we all had your commitment we would be........
Playing in a rented hell hole
Or
Still at Saltergate
Or
Playing Non League
Or
No club at all
Thankfully we have fans that will go irrespective of the goings on off the field.
Playing in a rented hell hole
Or
Still at Saltergate
Or
Playing Non League
Or
No club at all
Thankfully we have fans that will go irrespective of the goings on off the field.
I'm same as Lindave , I'll go no matter what but don't you think we are the reason why clubs fleece football fans on the regular? They can charge what they want , not show ambition etc because they know no matter what happens we will always pay our money. Not talking about our club btw , just in general like.
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Posted 02 August 2015 - 06:12 PM
Dave In Footie Heaven, on 02 August 2015 - 05:44 PM, said:
I fully agree about spin but you are offering figures which you cannot substanciate. You do not know the full running costs of the club; you don't know the full debt situation and you certainly don't know the proportion of the income that is going into the new reserve players, the cylinders ground which is rumoured to be back on the adgenda. We've saved salaries by not signing abyone in July.
In the main the players that have gone wanted it to happen, we'll never know how hard we tried to keep them but the chairmans choice of wanting some funds back has to be addressed.
Never mind the statement that the budget is the same, it well may be but it is being spread over a wider area and an increase in playing staff.
You've got it in one - SPIN SPIN SPIN.
In the main the players that have gone wanted it to happen, we'll never know how hard we tried to keep them but the chairmans choice of wanting some funds back has to be addressed.
Never mind the statement that the budget is the same, it well may be but it is being spread over a wider area and an increase in playing staff.
You've got it in one - SPIN SPIN SPIN.
Dave, the club lost one million pound, the debt is around 8 million both facts.
The accounts show the running costs of the club, expenditure outweighed income by 1 million pounds fact.
Doyle left for £850,000 plus add ons... The CEO didn't even know the figure as he contridicted himself at was that figure then said it was the first million pound sale.
Clucas left for £1.3 million fact
Cooper left for £750k fact, add to that Roberts and Tendi the club has a minimum of £3m over the past year in additional income, fact.
Roberts, Ryan, Tendi, Clucas, Richards, Smith, Doyle and Cooper, eight big earners with wage rises increased must have been on more than £20k between them plus Tommy, Drew, Cook and back room staff compo and streamlining of back room staff must mean around 20k a week savings, anyone who doesn't think it's around that figure must be naive. The club needed to save a million quid, that's where the saving has been made, getting rid of our best players on huge contracted bonuses for promotion to meet this cutback at huge profits.
The club cannot afford to spend much more on new recruits without making a loss.
The wages were unsustainable....come on people need to wake up. Why do you think a genuine fan who was in the know told us the future was bleak and some still believe it's all roses even now.
I can imagine now the club is running roughly on an break-even level.
Hopefully the youngster like mani and like can push on have good seasons and keep us up and develop for a push next season. It's going to be a season of frustration, declining attendances and mediocracy, unless Dean can wave some magic wand and we end up totally beyond our wildest expectations and reach the play-offs again.
The debt needs to come down, the players we have sold have been great sales for the club and helped to reduce this, anyone thinking we are going to push the boat out and spend nearly a million pound by end of August (30percent of sales) is totally deluded with a capital D.
The club just need to stop the spin as the season tickets have already been sold no need to now.
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Posted 02 August 2015 - 06:19 PM
Search and Destroy, on 02 August 2015 - 11:25 AM, said:
Is DA having of mine, with him AC and CT at the helm, I'm out. The club is a shambles.
A rudderless, leaderless shambles.
A rudderless, leaderless shambles.
How I feel but I will keep giving them mine in feint hope that one day things will change and we become really professional the club that is ran properly. Hope to live long enough to see it
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Posted 02 August 2015 - 06:27 PM
Tylerdurdencfc, on 02 August 2015 - 06:12 PM, said:
Dave, the club lost one million pound, the debt is around 8 million both facts.
The accounts show the running costs of the club, expenditure outweighed income by 1 million pounds fact.
Doyle left for £850,000 plus add ons... The CEO didn't even know the figure as he contridicted himself at was that figure then said it was the first million pound sale.
Clucas left for £1.3 million fact
Cooper left for £750k fact, add to that Roberts and Tendi the club has a minimum of £3m over the past year in additional income, fact.
Roberts, Ryan, Tendi, Clucas, Richards, Smith, Doyle and Cooper, eight big earners with wage rises increased must have been on more than £20k between them plus Tommy, Drew, Cook and back room staff compo and streamlining of back room staff must mean around 20k a week savings, anyone who doesn't think it's around that figure must be naive. The club needed to save a million quid, that's where the saving has been made, getting rid of our best players on huge contracted bonuses for promotion to meet this cutback at huge profits.
The club cannot afford to spend much more on new recruits without making a loss.
The wages were unsustainable....come on people need to wake up. Why do you think a genuine fan who was in the know told us the future was bleak and some still believe it's all roses even now.
I can imagine now the club is running roughly on an break-even level.
Hopefully the youngster like mani and like can push on have good seasons and keep us up and develop for a push next season. It's going to be a season of frustration, declining attendances and mediocracy, unless Dean can wave some magic wand and we end up totally beyond our wildest expectations and reach the play-offs again.
The debt needs to come down, the players we have sold have been great sales for the club and helped to reduce this, anyone thinking we are going to push the boat out and spend nearly a million pound by end of August (30percent of sales) is totally deluded with a capital D.
The club just need to stop the spin as the season tickets have already been sold no need to now.
The accounts show the running costs of the club, expenditure outweighed income by 1 million pounds fact.
Doyle left for £850,000 plus add ons... The CEO didn't even know the figure as he contridicted himself at was that figure then said it was the first million pound sale.
Clucas left for £1.3 million fact
Cooper left for £750k fact, add to that Roberts and Tendi the club has a minimum of £3m over the past year in additional income, fact.
Roberts, Ryan, Tendi, Clucas, Richards, Smith, Doyle and Cooper, eight big earners with wage rises increased must have been on more than £20k between them plus Tommy, Drew, Cook and back room staff compo and streamlining of back room staff must mean around 20k a week savings, anyone who doesn't think it's around that figure must be naive. The club needed to save a million quid, that's where the saving has been made, getting rid of our best players on huge contracted bonuses for promotion to meet this cutback at huge profits.
The club cannot afford to spend much more on new recruits without making a loss.
The wages were unsustainable....come on people need to wake up. Why do you think a genuine fan who was in the know told us the future was bleak and some still believe it's all roses even now.
I can imagine now the club is running roughly on an break-even level.
Hopefully the youngster like mani and like can push on have good seasons and keep us up and develop for a push next season. It's going to be a season of frustration, declining attendances and mediocracy, unless Dean can wave some magic wand and we end up totally beyond our wildest expectations and reach the play-offs again.
The debt needs to come down, the players we have sold have been great sales for the club and helped to reduce this, anyone thinking we are going to push the boat out and spend nearly a million pound by end of August (30percent of sales) is totally deluded with a capital D.
The club just need to stop the spin as the season tickets have already been sold no need to now.
Im convinced, stop torturing yourself.
God I hate this league.
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Posted 02 August 2015 - 06:33 PM
NOKIN, on 02 August 2015 - 05:47 PM, said:
The club needs every fan it can pull in fickle or otherwise, casual or regular.
That's true. But if you're the casual that Uncle Dave has been trying to snare for the last few years and you hear of half the starting outfielders being sold or moving on, you're hardly going to want to see the "remains" play are you?
The next Q&A will be interesting to witness - sadly not by me. With the chairman selling off prize assets, how will he be able to justify telling/asking the regulars bringing in a casual or two?
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Posted 02 August 2015 - 06:43 PM
Search and Destroy, on 02 August 2015 - 02:58 PM, said:
70 % debt reduction
30% to fund transfers/wages
Spin or lies?
30% to fund transfers/wages
Spin or lies?
maybe the 30% wages fund from doyles sale went straight into covering the running losses/wage overspend from last season, so technically they would be true to their word.
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Posted 02 August 2015 - 07:39 PM
IMO we should lay off Chris Turnip at least - he managed to broker an agreement whereby our right winger played for minimum wage and told him to work at Jacksons to supplement his dogsh** income 😂😂😂
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Posted 02 August 2015 - 07:54 PM
Mr Mercury, on 02 August 2015 - 07:52 PM, said:
Don't be silly, if DA leaves with a loss then where do you think that leaves us?
He'd have to sell all the saleable assets and leave us with a squad full of kids.
Perish the thought.
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Posted 02 August 2015 - 08:21 PM
NOKIN, on 02 August 2015 - 05:47 PM, said:
The club needs every fan it can pull in fickle or otherwise, casual or regular.
your bang on here - its ridiculous say go on then support another club.
The club cannot afford to let fans become disillusioned, if they do then it wont be long before gates fall and we struggle to get 5000 home fans.
If DA and CT cant run the club on an average of 7000, what are they going to do if gates drop to 5000/5500?
We need something positive to energise the Chesterfield public. Selling players for a couple of million pounds, losing 6 or 7 top first team players and not replacing them isn't going to do this.
Cook was right, this summer is a big one for CFC.
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Posted 02 August 2015 - 08:55 PM
Wow, such a long time since I messaged on this board. Had to remember my password.
This debate really got me thinking. I gave up on CFC when Paul Cook was made manager. I said to my Girlfirend and I quote "If this cheap option of a manager gets us promotion, I'll buy a season ticket for next year!" (She, unlike me, has faith and a season ticket for this season.) Last season in accordance with my bet I purchased a season ticket, not in a million years expecting to do so. Last season was good, but I wouldn't dream of spending another £400 on Chesterfield FC. Its too much. Between the ages of 22-28 I went everywhere watching Chesterfield, home and away. I went to Brighton when Town won 2-1 thanks to Niven and Folan. I went to Yeovil when Adam Smith broke through and we won 3-1. I went everywhere. But it got boring and it remains boring to me. Even last season, remember the Walsall match at home, I fell asleep!
What do Chesterfield do, get promotion from league 2, and then get relegated from league one. Its a steady business plan, that has kept CFC here. I do not believe Chesterfield FC have any other ambition than that. TD going is brilliant for him I hope he does well, its the same with SC, you cant blame the lad. Paul Cook built a good side and proved me very wrong, but we are no Portsmouth and never will be. We can only dream of their attendances and therefore have to sell players to keep the books balanced. Paul Cook did right by Paul Cook, and to believe a word of the five year plan is simply daft. Our chairman wants to keep you going to pay back his loan interest. If I had a regular 5% coming in on the money he has lent the club, so would I! It's simply the society that we live in.
My point is this, if you want to buy season ticket after season ticket and be the core 4000, good! I did it and its an amazing at times. If you want to go when you can afford it, good, your a fan and that's it. If you go when they are doing well, good, its what being proud of your town is all about. It doesn't matter. I will be there Saturday, only because someone isn't going and I'm on their season ticket...Does it matter...no!
Finally, I had an amazing time at Royal Ascot for two days with my £400 instead, those two days were IMHO better than any of the 23 matches I attended at home last season. There are other things to spend your money on....Up the Spireties!
This debate really got me thinking. I gave up on CFC when Paul Cook was made manager. I said to my Girlfirend and I quote "If this cheap option of a manager gets us promotion, I'll buy a season ticket for next year!" (She, unlike me, has faith and a season ticket for this season.) Last season in accordance with my bet I purchased a season ticket, not in a million years expecting to do so. Last season was good, but I wouldn't dream of spending another £400 on Chesterfield FC. Its too much. Between the ages of 22-28 I went everywhere watching Chesterfield, home and away. I went to Brighton when Town won 2-1 thanks to Niven and Folan. I went to Yeovil when Adam Smith broke through and we won 3-1. I went everywhere. But it got boring and it remains boring to me. Even last season, remember the Walsall match at home, I fell asleep!
What do Chesterfield do, get promotion from league 2, and then get relegated from league one. Its a steady business plan, that has kept CFC here. I do not believe Chesterfield FC have any other ambition than that. TD going is brilliant for him I hope he does well, its the same with SC, you cant blame the lad. Paul Cook built a good side and proved me very wrong, but we are no Portsmouth and never will be. We can only dream of their attendances and therefore have to sell players to keep the books balanced. Paul Cook did right by Paul Cook, and to believe a word of the five year plan is simply daft. Our chairman wants to keep you going to pay back his loan interest. If I had a regular 5% coming in on the money he has lent the club, so would I! It's simply the society that we live in.
My point is this, if you want to buy season ticket after season ticket and be the core 4000, good! I did it and its an amazing at times. If you want to go when you can afford it, good, your a fan and that's it. If you go when they are doing well, good, its what being proud of your town is all about. It doesn't matter. I will be there Saturday, only because someone isn't going and I'm on their season ticket...Does it matter...no!
Finally, I had an amazing time at Royal Ascot for two days with my £400 instead, those two days were IMHO better than any of the 23 matches I attended at home last season. There are other things to spend your money on....Up the Spireties!
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Posted 02 August 2015 - 09:21 PM
Tylerdurdencfc, on 02 August 2015 - 05:33 PM, said:
Dave this isn't a cat and mouse game, it was obvious the club wanted players off the books.
Why wouldn't you sort jimmy Ryan's contract out with a year left on it?
Why aren't we sorting Morsy a deal out now?
Same applies to Tendi, why weren't these contracts sorted to keep hold of our assets and make this big promotion push we were sold at the start of the previous season.
The reasons why was because the club couldn't afford it, it needed to balance the books and hence the sales, even after Doyle and Cooper were off the books and all that money coming in from those.
The club can't afford to bring new players in....it's blatantly obvious. Ryan and Roberts have been gone nearly a month, ask yourself, where are their replacements?
The combination of wages of Since 1st July 2014
Out - Richards, Smith, Cooper, Doyle, Roberts, Ryan, Clucas, Tendi
In - Clucas, Jones, SEB and Harrison and numerous youth players.
We must be 20k a week in wages better off ( or roughly about £1million a year, surprise surprise, sorry Cilla) plus an extra minimum of £3millipn quid profit.
If the accounts don't show the clubs debt round about 5.5 million (down from 8 million) then something is seriously wrong.
The club have a choice to gradually bring the debt down with the so called 30percent funds back in the players fund, if so 30 percent is about £950k shopping bag.
Where is this money, why aren't we signing players left right and centre?
It doesn't add up, the 30percent was stated to appease the fans....no money has been spent a week before the season apart from one wage.
It's all spin, support buy outlandish statements such as 'the team will be stronger at the start of the season than last' absolute tosh fed to appease the fans who have bought season tickets.
Why wouldn't you sort jimmy Ryan's contract out with a year left on it?
Why aren't we sorting Morsy a deal out now?
Same applies to Tendi, why weren't these contracts sorted to keep hold of our assets and make this big promotion push we were sold at the start of the previous season.
The reasons why was because the club couldn't afford it, it needed to balance the books and hence the sales, even after Doyle and Cooper were off the books and all that money coming in from those.
The club can't afford to bring new players in....it's blatantly obvious. Ryan and Roberts have been gone nearly a month, ask yourself, where are their replacements?
The combination of wages of Since 1st July 2014
Out - Richards, Smith, Cooper, Doyle, Roberts, Ryan, Clucas, Tendi
In - Clucas, Jones, SEB and Harrison and numerous youth players.
We must be 20k a week in wages better off ( or roughly about £1million a year, surprise surprise, sorry Cilla) plus an extra minimum of £3millipn quid profit.
If the accounts don't show the clubs debt round about 5.5 million (down from 8 million) then something is seriously wrong.
The club have a choice to gradually bring the debt down with the so called 30percent funds back in the players fund, if so 30 percent is about £950k shopping bag.
Where is this money, why aren't we signing players left right and centre?
It doesn't add up, the 30percent was stated to appease the fans....no money has been spent a week before the season apart from one wage.
It's all spin, support buy outlandish statements such as 'the team will be stronger at the start of the season than last' absolute tosh fed to appease the fans who have bought season tickets.
A pretty good summary of where the finances are, I would think. Or at least, where they should be.
The big question is how likely do you think it is that the net position is that we've repaid £2.5m of debt? Some are concerned that the sheer number of players offloaded may indicate that there are more hidden losses in the business.
This post has been edited by Torteval: 02 August 2015 - 09:22 PM
