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Plan B better than plan A?

#1 User is offline   ELTON 2020 

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Posted 26 July 2015 - 10:23 AM

Superb second half - should we have that as plan A or stick with original plan A
..........bearing in mind if plan doesn't work - we are only allowed so many substitutions!!!
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Posted 26 July 2015 - 10:34 AM

View PostElton John 1866, on 26 July 2015 - 10:23 AM, said:

Superb second half - should we have that as plan A or stick with original plan A
..........bearing in mind if plan doesn't work - we are only allowed so many substitutions!!!

From what I saw yesterday, with the players DS has available atm, I wouldn't shy out of dropping Banks, Gardner and O'Shea and giving some of the kids a start and see what happens. They transformed the tempo and movement of our game without a shadow of a doubt.
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Posted 26 July 2015 - 11:08 AM

View PostSpire-Power, on 26 July 2015 - 10:34 AM, said:

From what I saw yesterday, with the players DS has available atm, I wouldn't shy out of dropping Banks, Gardner and O'Shea and giving some of the kids a start and see what happens. They transformed the tempo and movement of our game without a shadow of a doubt.

Those three haven't done themselves any favours whatsoever
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Posted 26 July 2015 - 11:14 AM

View PostSpire-Power, on 26 July 2015 - 10:34 AM, said:

From what I saw yesterday, with the players DS has available atm, I wouldn't shy out of dropping Banks, Gardner and O'Shea and giving some of the kids a start and see what happens. They transformed the tempo and movement of our game without a shadow of a doubt.


Will we see Armand and Ewbanks-Blake start a game saturday. Boly certainly has got the bit between his teeth and do you know what no-one has commented about missing Clucas.
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Posted 26 July 2015 - 11:16 AM

View Postazul, on 26 July 2015 - 11:08 AM, said:

Those three haven't done themselves any favours whatsoever


Just in the interest of balance, Banks had a higher completed pass rate than Morsy on Tuesday night........
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Posted 26 July 2015 - 11:22 AM

View PostDave In Footie Heaven, on 26 July 2015 - 11:14 AM, said:

Will we see Armand and Ewbanks-Blake start a game saturday. Boly certainly has got the bit between his teeth and do you know what no-one has commented about missing Clucas.

:unsure: The subs showed they were well up for it.Even taking into account the Burnley seemed to be flagging the lads took them apart.It will be interesting to see how Ewbanks benefits from the type of service that was offered in the second half yesterday,certainly didn't get much for his time on the pitch.He certainly needs a big guy at the side of him.Saunders knows he has to bolster midfield and it'll be a priority to get someone in. ^_^
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Posted 26 July 2015 - 11:38 AM

View Postvalemadness, on 26 July 2015 - 11:16 AM, said:

Just in the interest of balance, Banks had a higher completed pass rate than Morsy on Tuesday night........


It's not surprising when making safe passes back to Evo and Hird every time.
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Posted 26 July 2015 - 11:42 AM

Spire-Power said:

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From what I saw yesterday, with the players DS has available atm, I wouldn't shy out of dropping Banks, Gardner and O'Shea and giving some of the kids a start and see what happens. They transformed the tempo and movement of our game without a shadow of a doubt.


It will be interesting to who DS now brings in, and how plan "A" looks once we have a settled 11

azul said:

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Those three haven't done themselves any favours whatsoever


I wonder if JOS fancies a move as well?
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Posted 26 July 2015 - 11:43 AM

Great comeback but don't lets get too carried away Burnley will still be classed as a premier league side and players will raise there game in such games which was evident yesterday...if they can carry that performance into the games such as the Burys,Crewes and Shrewsburys then we aint got nothing to worry about.
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Posted 26 July 2015 - 11:44 AM

View Posta kick in the balls, on 26 July 2015 - 11:42 AM, said:

It will be interesting to who DS now brings in, and how plan "A" looks once we have a settled 11



I wonder if JOS fancies a move as well?


What makes you say this, any reason
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Posted 26 July 2015 - 11:57 AM

Dave In Footie Heaven said:

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What makes you say this, any reason


A while ago, someone spoke to JOS and said he was unhappy,


Dema I think, and I see little reason for this to have changed. JOS is a great footballer, he's one of those frustrating at times players who you know could and should be doing it, and has a couple of stinkers. Then he blows you away with a couple of games whee you see the players full ability. I like him a lot, he's great to watch.



I also think he is a confidence player, and needs a certain type of manager to give him a hug now and then and say don't worry about doing "X" you concentrate on your game etc etc. I don't see DS as being so forgiving. He will demand players cover defensive duties as doing the flair thing as well.


I spoke to a lad in Doncaster this morning, seeing as we can now shop at mark and sparks so ask what players DS likes, he said good players but ones who are also "workmen"


I don't see JOS being happy with that at all.

Just my opinion mind, I haven't heard anything to say he asked for a move or anything.
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Posted 26 July 2015 - 12:06 PM

View Postbullseyerob, on 26 July 2015 - 11:43 AM, said:

Great comeback but don't lets get too carried away Burnley will still be classed as a premier league side and players will raise there game in such games which was evident yesterday...if they can carry that performance into the games such as the Burys,Crewes and Shrewsburys then we aint got nothing to worry about.

? The first half team didn't raise its game in fact it looked as if they were going to get a cricket score at one time. On that second half performance we should do well but only if DS has the confidence to run with plan B.
Plan A looks pedestrian at times and personally I wasn't over impressed with SEB in either game. I doubt he could keep up with the pace of the youngsters unless he loses some more weight and gets fitter.
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Posted 26 July 2015 - 12:53 PM

View PostSpire-Power, on 26 July 2015 - 10:34 AM, said:

From what I saw yesterday, with the players DS has available atm, I wouldn't shy out of dropping Banks, Gardner and O'Shea and giving some of the kids a start and see what happens. They transformed the tempo and movement of our game without a shadow of a doubt.

i agree fully, theres no way id have either Gardener or Banks in the starting line up.
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Posted 26 July 2015 - 12:57 PM

View PostBigBlue, on 26 July 2015 - 12:53 PM, said:

i agree fully, theres no way id have either Gardener or Banks in the starting line up.


Surely they have to be included whilst everyone is getting upto scratch.
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Posted 26 July 2015 - 12:59 PM

View PostDave In Footie Heaven, on 26 July 2015 - 12:57 PM, said:

Surely they have to be included whilst everyone is getting upto scratch.

Gboly over Gardener anytime for me and hopefully a new signing in for Banks. personally when seasons underway i'd ship em out on loan.
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Posted 26 July 2015 - 01:05 PM

View Posta kick in the balls, on 26 July 2015 - 11:57 AM, said:

A while ago, someone spoke to JOS and said he was unhappy,

Dema I think



Wouldn't you be unhappy if Dema spoke to you?
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Posted 26 July 2015 - 01:18 PM

View PostSpireite-Karl, on 26 July 2015 - 01:05 PM, said:

Wouldn't you be unhappy if Dema spoke to you?


Didn't PC say the penny had finally dropped for JOS in respect of his diatry and other requirements towards the end of last season. Imo JOS gives us an added dimension to our playing options.
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Posted 26 July 2015 - 01:49 PM

View PostSpire-Power, on 26 July 2015 - 10:34 AM, said:

From what I saw yesterday, with the players DS has available atm, I wouldn't shy out of dropping Banks, Gardner and O'Shea and giving some of the kids a start and see what happens. They transformed the tempo and movement of our game without a shadow of a doubt.

Yeah I was very much of the same opinion based on yesterday apart from the fact I would keep Jay O as he can have flashes of brilliance. The other two can stay on the bench for me as the new lads are MUCH better. A bit of a dilemma for Deano who to partner with Sam, but in light of recent events it is likely to be a new signing. I would be happy to see Gboly on the right wing and a new left footer for the left wing.
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Posted 26 July 2015 - 01:56 PM

View PostBowzer spirey, on 26 July 2015 - 01:49 PM, said:

Yeah I was very much of the same opinion based on yesterday apart from the fact I would keep Jay O as he can have flashes of brilliance. The other two can stay on the bench for me as the new lads are MUCH better. A bit of a dilemma for Deano who to partner with Sam, but in light of recent events it is likely to be a new signing. I would be happy to see Gboly on the right wing and a new left footer for the left wing.



Gboly on the right, new left winger that has pace and let’s play the DS way with pace and power. It looked really promising yesterday (I'm far more optimistic now for the new season than I've been all summer (mind you that wasn't hard, lol). Banks and Gardner out, the strong quick lads in and I don't care IF O'Shea is ditched in favour of pace and power tbh and I really like JayO at that, but if he doesn’t fit he doesn’t fit.
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Posted 26 July 2015 - 02:09 PM

Spireite-Karl said:

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Wouldn't you be unhappy if Dema spoke to you?


He he, that's made me smile.
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