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#1 User is offline   RikShaw 

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Posted 17 February 2015 - 10:37 PM

Hubbard sacked McFarland and appointed Lee Richardson.

Our best chance in 35 years to prove to the people of Chesterfield that this club is serious, and what do they do.... Sell their prize asset for peanuts.

So all these young fans we have managed to get wearing town shirts with pride and who believed in CFC, we risk losing them again as once more It looks like we are slipping into football's quiet backwaters, reverting to type, as a small town team with no ambition.

Are we really about to embark on another period of the 'wilderness years', well it seems so to me.

Forget packing the Proact Dave, people needed something to trust and believe in but shortermism has once more, robbed us of that belief. It's going to be a long end to the season and I just hope we can hold on.
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Posted 17 February 2015 - 10:40 PM

View PostMaverick, on 17 February 2015 - 10:37 PM, said:

Hubbard sacked McFarland and appointed Lee Richardson.

Our best chance in 35 years to prove to the people of Chesterfield that this club is serious, and what do they do.... Sell their prize asset for peanuts.

So all these young fans we have managed to get wearing town shirts with pride and who believed in CFC, we risk losing them again as once more It looks like we are slipping into football's quiet backwaters, reverting to type, as a small town team with no ambition.

Are we really about to embark on another period of the 'wilderness years', well it seems so to me.

Forget packing the Proact Dave, people needed something to trust and believe in but shortermism has once more, robbed us of that belief. It's going to be a long end to the season and I just hope we can hold on.


We'll be lower still when PC starts looking for an escape route
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Posted 17 February 2015 - 10:43 PM

View Postazul, on 17 February 2015 - 10:40 PM, said:

We'll be lower still when PC starts looking for an escape route

I meant to include that in my post above. I'm sure now that Cooky will be evaluating his options....
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Posted 17 February 2015 - 10:44 PM

View PostMaverick, on 17 February 2015 - 10:37 PM, said:

Hubbard sacked McFarland and appointed Lee Richardson.

Our best chance in 35 years to prove to the people of Chesterfield that this club is serious, and what do they do.... Sell their prize asset for peanuts.

So all these young fans we have managed to get wearing town shirts with pride and who believed in CFC, we risk losing them again as once more It looks like we are slipping into football's quiet backwaters, reverting to type, as a small town team with no ambition.

Are we really about to embark on another period of the 'wilderness years', well it seems so to me.

Forget packing the Proact Dave, people needed something to trust and believe in but shortermism has once more, robbed us of that belief. It's going to be a long end to the season and I just hope we can hold on.


It certainly is..My fear is one a return to the dark days. The away support tonight looked pitiful compared with recent outings...can';t blame folk for not turning up. every time at chesterfield, something like this happens...no season ticket next year.
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Posted 17 February 2015 - 10:49 PM

There's time yet, strikers don't always hit the ground running, they need time to get an understanding of what's what, and to be fair they aren't getting good supply. It would be good if they figured it out pretty sharpish mind.

Cook jumping ship wouldn't be a good career move, a chairman might get twitchy at employing someone with that trait. This dip in form will make PC stronger if he can stop the rot and get us pushing forward again. We're not sunk yet, every team has a bad spell, it's how we react that matters.
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Posted 17 February 2015 - 11:22 PM

View PostMaverick, on 17 February 2015 - 10:37 PM, said:

Hubbard sacked McFarland and appointed Lee Richardson.

Our best chance in 35 years to prove to the people of Chesterfield that this club is serious, and what do they do.... Sell their prize asset for peanuts.

So all these young fans we have managed to get wearing town shirts with pride and who believed in CFC, we risk losing them again as once more It looks like we are slipping into football's quiet backwaters, reverting to type, as a small town team with no ambition.

Are we really about to embark on another period of the 'wilderness years', well it seems so to me.

Forget packing the Proact Dave, people needed something to trust and believe in but shortermism has once more, robbed us of that belief. It's going to be a long end to the season and I just hope we can hold on.

D.A will be looking for a crowd of 7000+ against Fleetwood to balance the books.
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Posted 17 February 2015 - 11:25 PM

View Postbullseyerob, on 17 February 2015 - 11:22 PM, said:

D.A will be looking for a crowd of 7000+ against Fleetwood to balance the books.


he'll be lucky to get 5,000
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Posted 17 February 2015 - 11:33 PM

You reap what you sow
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Posted 18 February 2015 - 12:06 AM

outstanding businessman..............so I'm told...
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Posted 18 February 2015 - 12:14 AM

View PostMisnomer, on 18 February 2015 - 12:06 AM, said:

outstanding businessman..............so I'm told...


We've tried Armand, we've tried Lavery, we've tried Harrison

Time for Dieseruvwe?
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Posted 18 February 2015 - 12:21 AM

View Postazul, on 17 February 2015 - 10:40 PM, said:

We'll be lower still when PC starts looking for an escape route

Maybe. There are only 92 league clubs, and not that many above us who offer both better prospects for PC and would look at PC as the new man.
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Posted 18 February 2015 - 12:34 AM

View Posta kick in the balls, on 18 February 2015 - 12:21 AM, said:

Maybe. There are only 92 league clubs, and not that many above us who offer both better prospects for PC and would look at PC as the new man.


When crowds start falling away as we consolidate year in year out that might change

While we are on the subject, I deleted the details of our bet, can you send me them again, I think you might have to pay out the full whack!
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Posted 18 February 2015 - 07:02 AM

View Posta kick in the balls, on 18 February 2015 - 12:21 AM, said:

Maybe. There are only 92 league clubs, and not that many above us who offer both better prospects for PC and would look at PC as the new man.

Add to that the reduced budget Cooky has had to work with this season and then the Board invite offers for our best match winner, because that's what CT did in my opinion, ie talking openly about offers received, trying to start a bidding war, that ultimately failed.. Then as a manager I would have to think long and hard, if this club has the same ambition as mine.
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Posted 18 February 2015 - 07:22 AM

View PostMaverick, on 18 February 2015 - 07:02 AM, said:

Add to that the reduced budget Cooky has had to work with this season and then the Board invite offers for our best match winner, because that's what CT did in my opinion, ie talking openly about offers received, trying to start a bidding war, that ultimately failed.. Then as a manager I would have to think long and hard, if this club has the same ambition as mine.

it seems to me that the sale of doyle was planned,so is cook not slightly to blame for the players that they decided to bring in,it has been stated that harrison has been on the radar for a while, well on what i have seen they must have been wearing jam jar bottom glasses when they scouted him,cook has also put faith in armand who from day one has been batting well out his league the guy is simply not good enough ,add into the mix that in reality if you play 4231 you dont really need big players you need mobile players,we have gone against everything that made us so good by signing the wrong type of player.
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Posted 18 February 2015 - 07:28 AM

View PostMaverick, on 17 February 2015 - 10:37 PM, said:

Hubbard sacked McFarland and appointed Lee Richardson.

Our best chance in 35 years to prove to the people of Chesterfield that this club is serious, and what do they do.... Sell their prize asset for peanuts.

So all these young fans we have managed to get wearing town shirts with pride and who believed in CFC, we risk losing them again as once more It looks like we are slipping into football's quiet backwaters, reverting to type, as a small town team with no ambition.

Are we really about to embark on another period of the 'wilderness years', well it seems so to me.

Forget packing the Proact Dave, people needed something to trust and believe in but shortermism has once more, robbed us of that belief. It's going to be a long end to the season and I just hope we can hold on.

Get a grip, a season is 46 games, not 3, it was bound to be difficult bringing in new players mid-season
We should still finish mid-table and overall that is progress
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Posted 18 February 2015 - 07:39 AM

This is all very childish stuff. You all need to step out of the fan box and look at the business from the outside. Firstly I reckon we'd have lost the last three with Doyle too. Secondly Doyle was off like a shot to secure 3x or 4x Wages. The club had no option. Thirdly the business model and main priority is to get the debt down thru player development and selling on. That's why Cookie is in the job because that's what he's good at. He's done it with Cooper from nothing, he's done it with Doyle from nothing, he'll do it with Raglan, Morsy, Carter, Harrison, Mani etc etc from nothing. Promotion to Championship is not an option until the debt is much lower as the club just wouldn't be able to afford the players required at that level to compete without a big risk of going bankrupt when they get relegated. I'd much rather be in league one with a club being prudently managed than say Rotherham who are blowing the budget. If in 4 years time we are ready I reckon the business will be sustainable for long term stay at Championship level. Of course this remains to be seen but that's the plan as far as I can see. Fans have to buy into this, support the business plan, enjoy some competitive football, watch some good young talent along the way, maybe a bit of joy in cups and get on with it.
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Posted 18 February 2015 - 07:43 AM

View PostSixYardBox, on 18 February 2015 - 07:39 AM, said:

This is all very childish stuff. You all need to step out of the fan box and look at the business from the outside. Firstly I reckon we'd have lost the last three with Doyle too. Secondly Doyle was off like a shot to secure 3x or 4x Wages. The club had no option. Thirdly the business model and main priority is to get the debt down thru player development and selling on. That's why Cookie is in the job because that's what he's good at. He's done it with Cooper from nothing, he's done it with Doyle from nothing, he'll do it with Raglan, Morsy, Carter, Harrison, Mani etc etc from nothing. Promotion to Championship is not an option until the debt is much lower as the club just wouldn't be able to afford the players required at that level to compete without a big risk of going bankrupt when they get relegated. I'd much rather be in league one with a club being prudently managed than say Rotherham who are blowing the budget. If in 4 years time we are ready I reckon the business will be sustainable for long term stay at Championship level. Of course this remains to be seen but that's the plan as far as I can see. Fans have to buy into this, support the business plan, enjoy some competitive football, watch some good young talent along the way, maybe a bit of joy in cups and get on with it.

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Posted 18 February 2015 - 07:48 AM

Doyle was off 'like a shot' as we accepted an offer. If we hadn't he would have been at home watching telly.
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Posted 18 February 2015 - 07:55 AM

View PostWestbars Spireite, on 18 February 2015 - 07:48 AM, said:

Doyle was off 'like a shot' as we accepted an offer. If we hadn't he would have been at home watching telly.

doyle was on a chesterfield contract,we could have increased that contract over a short period if we wanted,we had already sold a player for 700k this season,we had given the club the crowds they projected we had been on a cup run,we were in a play off position ,the need to sell because we would not have been able to look doyle in the eye is rubbish,he was our player on a contract he signed and in the summer he would have been bought in a far more fluid market.
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Posted 18 February 2015 - 08:02 AM

A little foresight from someone with CFC in their blood would have predicted this possible turn of events and the long term effects of it. The 'same of Chesterfield' tag is more damaging financially in the long run than turning down a mediocre offer for a player who could have been sold in the summer.
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