[Norton Blue]

starsky72, on 21 July 2014 - 12:53 PM, said:

But then you are guessing at the budgets to make it sound like it makes sense, I don't recall anyone from the club saying his years budget was X% more than last year.

In short we get what most fans will see as conflicting messages coming out of the club...

And you are not? You are guessing that the original budget for this year is exactly the same as it was last year.

Even if the budget was £0.01 more this year than last, the two statements from CT and DA would be true.

How can it be conflicting if, by your own admission, you dont have information on which to make this judgement ??

Not most fans, just those that only see what they want to see.

[Norton Blue]

starsky72, on 21 July 2014 - 01:09 PM, said:

Apologies....

No worries

[Town_Fan]

Maybe it's just me but I read that as it's been trimmed from what it was expected / wanted to be and that the revised figure is the same as last season.

Looking at the teams in League 1 I'm still fairly confident that the budget would still be mid table. There are a lot of clubs there worse off than us...

Port Vale
Crewe
Oldham
Rochdale
Yeovil
Gillingham
Colchester
Crawley (maybe, FFP and all that?)

...off the top of my head. Then there are the teams like Coventry, Swindon, Notts County who seem to be all over the place financially.

There are the teams we beat last season who will have to adhere to FFP limits and no-one else has really lit up the division with their signings.

Whilst I'm not enamoured with the situation, it's by no means a done deal for relegation either. It is what it is and you crack on with it. All this doom and gloom is a slap in the face to the players who played last season. How many times did we say "too good for league 2"? Well now it's time to show it.

[azul]

@tomhilton6, on 21 July 2014 - 01:07 PM, said:

Here's the Interview:

http://www.peakfm.co...ll-for-support/

Cheers,

Tom

Blaming the fans again, and apparently

10,000 CFC fans turned up against Fleetwood

And only 3000 turned up for the PATP

Why can't he just get his figures right

[Skywalker]

Town_Fan, on 21 July 2014 - 01:16 PM, said:

Maybe it's just me but I read that as it's been trimmed from what it was expected / wanted to be and that the revised figure is the same as last season.

Looking at the teams in League 1 I'm still fairly confident that the budget would still be mid table. There are a lot of clubs there worse off than us...

Port Vale
Crewe
Oldham
Rochdale
Yeovil
Gillingham
Colchester
Crawley (maybe, FFP and all that?)

...off the top of my head. Then there are the teams like Coventry, Swindon, Notts County who seem to be all over the place financially.

There are the teams we beat last season who will have to adhere to FFP limits and no-one else has really lit up the division with their signings.

Whilst I'm not enamoured with the situation, it's by no means a done deal for relegation either. It is what it is and you crack on with it. All this doom and gloom is a slap in the face to the players who played last season. How many times did we say "too good for league 2"? Well now it's time to show it.

Well said.

[semi130497]

Town_Fan, on 21 July 2014 - 01:16 PM, said:

Maybe it's just me but I read that as it's been trimmed from what it was expected / wanted to be and that the revised figure is the same as last season.

Looking at the teams in League 1 I'm still fairly confident that the budget would still be mid table. There are a lot of clubs there worse off than us...

Port Vale
Crewe
Oldham
Rochdale
Yeovil
Gillingham
Colchester
Crawley (maybe, FFP and all that?)

...off the top of my head. Then there are the teams like Coventry, Swindon, Notts County who seem to be all over the place financially.

There are the teams we beat last season who will have to adhere to FFP limits and no-one else has really lit up the division with their signings.

Whilst I'm not enamoured with the situation, it's by no means a done deal for relegation either. It is what it is and you crack on with it. All this doom and gloom is a slap in the face to the players who played last season. How many times did we say "too good for league 2"? Well now it's time to show it.

That's true, but as I am sure you realise we need a striker urgently. We struggled to break teams down in league 2 with a squad of players who were the best in league 2 outside of the striker department. It will be worse at this level.

[starsky72]

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How many times did we say "too good for league 2"? Well now it's time to show it.

Agreed and those supporters that came week in, week out will still be there....

BUT, attracting those additional home fans will be dependant on performances on the pitch, I just hope we can get the attendance figures we need.

[60s 70s Spireite]

Town_Fan, on 21 July 2014 - 01:16 PM, said:

Maybe it's just me but I read that as it's been trimmed from what it was expected / wanted to be and that the revised figure is the same as last season.

Looking at the teams in League 1 I'm still fairly confident that the budget would still be mid table. There are a lot of clubs there worse off than us...

Port Vale
Crewe
Oldham
Rochdale
Yeovil
Gillingham
Colchester
Crawley (maybe, FFP and all that?)

...off the top of my head. Then there are the teams like Coventry, Swindon, Notts County who seem to be all over the place financially.

There are the teams we beat last season who will have to adhere to FFP limits and no-one else has really lit up the division with their signings.

Whilst I'm not enamoured with the situation, it's by no means a done deal for relegation either. It is what it is and you crack on with it. All this doom and gloom is a slap in the face to the players who played last season. How many times did we say "too good for league 2"? Well now it's time to show it.

Exactly. All disappointing, but we have no given right to demand DA keep funding the club, even he is to be blamed for getting our hopes up. Some of us recall what happened the last time we paid serious money to gain promotion (1979-80, 1980-1). Ultimately failure and an extremely serious financial situation that it took the club years to recover from.

We and Cook will have to play the ball from where it has landed.

[brianclose]

Town_Fan, on 21 July 2014 - 01:16 PM, said:

Maybe it's just me but I read that as it's been trimmed from what it was expected / wanted to be and that the revised figure is the same as last season.

Looking at the teams in League 1 I'm still fairly confident that the budget would still be mid table. There are a lot of clubs there worse off than us...

Port Vale
Crewe
Oldham
Rochdale
Yeovil
Gillingham
Colchester
Crawley (maybe, FFP and all that?)

...off the top of my head. Then there are the teams like Coventry, Swindon, Notts County who seem to be all over the place financially.

There are the teams we beat last season who will have to adhere to FFP limits and no-one else has really lit up the division with their signings.

Whilst I'm not enamoured with the situation, it's by no means a done deal for relegation either. It is what it is and you crack on with it. All this doom and gloom is a slap in the face to the players who played last season. How many times did we say "too good for league 2"? Well now it's time to show it.

No way that Yeovil will be worse off than us - theyve made decent money on a few of their players and didnt overspend to get to the Championship.

Cov still have a decent budget and Swindons chairman publicly announced a budget of £1.8 million the other week - 50% higher than ours.

I would guess a couple of teams will have lower budgets than us (Rochdale/Walsall?) and perhaps half a dozen similar. I guess the crux of the matter is - how many of these teams already have competent L1 strikers on their books?

[Spireite_UK]

If everyone was singing from the same hymn sheet, I might have a bit more confidence in what was going on. Some cracks appearing in what I thought was a pretty solid setup. Something doesn't feel right

This post has been edited by Spireite_UK: 21 July 2014 - 01:28 PM

[Town_Fan]

semi130497, on 21 July 2014 - 01:22 PM, said:

That's true, but as I am sure you realise we need a striker urgently. We struggled to break teams down in league 2 with a squad of players who were the best in league 2 outside of the striker department. It will be worse at this level.

I see what your saying and to an extent I agree yet we were still top scorers in the league. It's a head scratcher as to how to explain that juxtaposition i.e. seemingly unable to break down teams yet top scorers. The good thing is that we had goals from all over the park last season.

I still think a striker will sign at some point, it just won't be Cook's first choice.

brianclose, on 21 July 2014 - 01:25 PM, said:

No way that Yeovil will be worse off than us - theyve made decent money on a few of their players and didnt overspend to get to the Championship.

Cov still have a decent budget and Swindons chairman publicly announced a budget of £1.8 million the other week - 50% higher than ours.

I would guess a couple of teams will have lower budgets than us (Rochdale/Walsall?) and perhaps half a dozen similar. I guess the crux of the matter is - how many of these teams already have competent L1 strikers on their books?

Have a look at some of the attendances in League 1 and then come back to me. You are being a miserable **** for the sake of effect.

[SpireRam]

azul, on 21 July 2014 - 01:22 PM, said:

Blaming the fans again, and apparently

10,000 CFC fans turned up against Fleetwood

And only 3000 turned up for the PATP

Why can't he just get his figures right

I'm sick of this blaming the fans crap now.

If we'd have had 7,000 fans this, if we'd have had 7,000 fans that.

I'm sorry but if you take into account Saltergate attendances.
A lot of the dull performances last year.

I think our average attendance last season was brilliant. I'm proud of that attendance as a Chesterfield fan. The only way we're gonna smash that is being top end league one and we're not gonna get there without investment.

If they don't like our fan base that much B****Y take over at another club with a bigger fan base because I for one am proud to see Chesterfield FC drawing over 6,000 fans on average, weekly.

[azul]

starsky72, on 21 July 2014 - 01:22 PM, said:

Agreed and those supporters that came week in, week out will still be there....

BUT, attracting those additional home fans will be dependant on performances on the pitch, I just hope we can get the attendance figures we need.

I think that logic is beyond him

[semi130497]

[quote name='Town_Fan' timestamp='1405949473' post='1023209']
I see what your saying and to an extent I agree yet we were still top scorers in the league. It's a head scratcher as to how to explain that juxtaposition i.e. seemingly unable to break down teams yet top scorers. The good thing is that we had goals from all over the park last season.

I still think a striker will sign at some point, it just won't be Cook's first choice.



It is very puzzling indeed. It's like when we were good we were very very good, but when we were bad we were horrid.

It is all very confusing. I pity any budget striker we do happen to sign, the pressure will be on them to deliver especially if Higdon makes an impact somewhere else.

This post has been edited by semi130497: 21 July 2014 - 01:39 PM

[Town_Fan]

semi130497, on 21 July 2014 - 01:39 PM, said:

It's like when we were good we were very very good, but when we were bad we were horrid.

I pity any budget striker we do happen to sign, the pressure will be on them to deliver especially if Higdon makes an impact somewhere else.

Agree x 2.

[brianclose]

Town_Fan, on 21 July 2014 - 01:31 PM, said:

I see what your saying and to an extent I agree yet we were still top scorers in the league. It's a head scratcher as to how to explain that juxtaposition i.e. seemingly unable to break down teams yet top scorers. The good thing is that we had goals from all over the park last season.

I still think a striker will sign at some point, it just won't be Cook's first choice.



Have a look at some of the attendances in League 1 and then come back to me. You are being a miserable **** for the sake of effect.

Attendances are only part of the story. We were 4th highest in L2 last year and have ended the season apparently without a pot to **** in. Fleetwood average 2,500 and have money to burn. There will be a fair few teams with lower average attendances than us but higher budgets.

Ive said we'll have a bottom 8 budget. And with no proven striker thats also where we'll finish in the league.

This post has been edited by brianclose: 21 July 2014 - 01:45 PM

[starsky72]

As it stands right now... I'd take 17th

[BurySpireite]

Spireite_UK, on 21 July 2014 - 01:27 PM, said:

If everyone was singing from the same hymn sheet, I might have a bit more confidence in what was going on. Some cracks appearing in what I thought was a pretty solid setup. Something doesn't feel right

Considering just forgetting about everything Chesterfield FC until the 9th of August and just taking stock of where we are at that point.

[Tha Knows...]

re the good news...Not sure if the budget is any different from the one PC was unhappy with a few days ago

[BLUE SINCE 62]

semi130497, on 21 July 2014 - 12:58 PM, said:

It's one thing one minute and another the next depending on who is talking and I'm sick of trying to figure it all out. It's all so vague and open to interpretation For example "The squad will stay intact. No players need to be sold" may only apply if we don't try to bring in any new ones (as we must do up front to stay up!), but may not apply if we do ...

Its just all so chaotic. I would like to know what skills/qualifications Christ Turner has to be chief executive

Re CT

I suppose being a big mate of DA's is all the qualifications you need, jobs for the boy's as they say. My I say waste of good money the guy has done naff all since he's been here apart from spout crap, I'd like to see his wage used somewhere else in the club to better effect.