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#181 User is online   The Earl of Chesterfield 

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Posted 19 November 2016 - 11:29 AM

View PostWooly, on 18 November 2016 - 08:51 PM, said:

Radford has stated a few times it's his desire to get Mansfield Town into The Championship. Steve Evans mentioned that our Chairman wants this in his press conference and said it was being part of this exciting project that persuaded him to join us. Also theres plenty of funds in the kitty for players in January cos unlike CFC we're OK finanially ..So get ya head around it Westie lad - we're going up Westie- if not this year then next.

Who knows we might be able to help you out when it comes to the inevitable fire sale of your better players.


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Allen 'stated a few times it's his desire to get his club into the Championship'. Came a damn sight nearer than Mr Mid Life Crisis, too. Both placed a moratorium on further investment, though; your man 'cos Mansfield folk would rather watch Forest in the pub, ours' 'cos of a CEO who struggles with numbers. It appears.

Evans talks knackers.

And 'plenty of funds'?

Huh, yeah, right...


View Poststagmanrob, on 19 November 2016 - 02:02 AM, said:

With your impending relegation, I'm interested as to how many fans you think will be shaved off of your current average?

The new stadium attracted thousands that weren't there in the Saltergate days, and it coincided with one of, if not the best, entertaining sides you've had in recent history, which convinced those new fans to stay on.
Even when you had a mini-disaster under Sheridan's management, it didn't affect attendances much after relegation because there was a promise of investment to bounce back, so fan optimism was high that it would be a successful League 2 campaign.

This time around you'll be relegated and broke, unless a buyer can be found which looks highly unlikely. Do you think a lot of the new breed of supporter who came along with the new stadium are now considered die hards? Or do you think they will disappear from whence they came without any prospect of success on the horizon?

I live in town so remember the huge difference between Saltergate attendances and the new ground. It was also much rarer during the Saltergate era to see kids walking around town in Chesterfield shirts, but there are loads now. So you've certainly done a good job in terms of attracting a new generation of supporters with the combination of the new ground and (at the time) entertaining and successful football.


To paraphrase the political adage: 'It's about results, stupid'.

We win folk turn up; we lose they drift away.

Same with every club, really...unless it's Mansfield Town, of course, who couldn't get many more than three thousand despite a 'dream come true' promotion on the back of a record breaking run.

By the way, as a reasonable poster, do you honestly think Evans is a positive appointment?

We're all aware of his behaviour at Boston - prosecuted and banned as a result. Your small band of fellow Staggies are always calling us over the events of sixteen years ago - so isn't it gross hypocrisy to embrace a character with similar stains on his record?

He then jumped ship from Crawley given the prospect of spending Tony Stewart's millions at Rotherham. The cynical and suspicious might also say he'd spent Crawley up and knew he couldn't work on a budget.

Either way he furthered his reputation as an ugly character, on every level, always adding a needless insult or bombastic jibe. Increasing is collection of touchline bans, too. Until Stewart joined the Crawley supremo by reigning in the finances, at which point Fat Boy conveniently forgot all the sneering taunts he'd aimed at Leeds to takeover there.

Didn't exactly cover himsen' with glory, did he.

And now he's wobbled through the Field Mill door.

Steve Evans has been successful - but only when allowed a regular turnover of players whom he's bullied and cast aside. Allegedly. Will Radford perform a U-turn and re-open the 'One Call' account to fund that? Bearing in mind the historical indifference of the Mansfield public? If so your future may be bright; if not...well, don't be surprised if Evans exits fairly promptly after dragging your name into the gutter alongside his.
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Posted 19 November 2016 - 12:50 PM

View PostMDCCCLXVI, on 19 November 2016 - 11:29 AM, said:

Allen 'stated a few times it's his desire to get his club into the Championship'. Came a damn sight nearer than Mr Mid Life Crisis, too. Both placed a moratorium on further investment, though; your man 'cos Mansfield folk would rather watch Forest in the pub, ours' 'cos of a CEO who struggles with numbers. It appears.

Evans talks knackers.

And 'plenty of funds'?

Huh, yeah, right...




To paraphrase the political adage: 'It's about results, stupid'.

We win folk turn up; we lose they drift away.

Same with every club, really...unless it's Mansfield Town, of course, who couldn't get many more than three thousand despite a 'dream come true' promotion on the back of a record breaking run.

By the way, as a reasonable poster, do you honestly think Evans is a positive appointment?

We're all aware of his behaviour at Boston - prosecuted and banned as a result. Your small band of fellow Staggies are always calling us over the events of sixteen years ago - so isn't it gross hypocrisy to embrace a character with similar stains on his record?

He then jumped ship from Crawley given the prospect of spending Tony Stewart's millions at Rotherham. The cynical and suspicious might also say he'd spent Crawley up and knew he couldn't work on a budget.

Either way he furthered his reputation as an ugly character, on every level, always adding a needless insult or bombastic jibe. Increasing is collection of touchline bans, too. Until Stewart joined the Crawley supremo by reigning in the finances, at which point Fat Boy conveniently forgot all the sneering taunts he'd aimed at Leeds to takeover there.

Didn't exactly cover himsen' with glory, did he.

And now he's wobbled through the Field Mill door.

Steve Evans has been successful - but only when allowed a regular turnover of players whom he's bullied and cast aside. Allegedly. Will Radford perform a U-turn and re-open the 'One Call' account to fund that? Bearing in mind the historical indifference of the Mansfield public? If so your future may be bright; if not...well, don't be surprised if Evans exits fairly promptly after dragging your name into the gutter alongside his.

Don't forget the flashing incident at Bradford Chris.
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Posted 19 November 2016 - 12:58 PM

View PostWooly, on 19 November 2016 - 11:15 AM, said:

Fair comment Westie. I dont think any Mansfield fans want you to go out of business, but at the same time we remember the great delight a lot of you took on here from us being taken to the cleaners by Haslam and being relegated out of the league.

You're not quite there just yet but I think some of you are beginning to understand what that feels like now the Adidas F50 is on the other foot.

Maybe before long you'll all realise that our two clubs and towns *are* similar in size... but what it all comes down to at the end of the day is who's running them, how deep their pockets are, and their true intentions. And it really is as simple as that.


I have no problem with Mansfield fans enjoying our plight. It would be the same the other way around.
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Posted 19 November 2016 - 01:04 PM

View Postfishini, on 02 April 2014 - 07:45 PM, said:

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Some are saying on scabsnet it isn't bad because we are in more debt than them. Head in the sand moment

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Posted 19 November 2016 - 04:11 PM

Maybe I'm missing your point, but...

..aren't MTFC still several million in debt to their owner?

The same owner who placed an embargo upon further investment because locals prefer Forest in the pub to the short trip to a three sided Field Mill?

And wasn't there some sort of coup where breakaway directors were forced to accept some sort of deal a season or so ago?

Meanwhile as things stand whose stadium is connected to the club and whose isn't?

Who has the greater chance of at some point re-paying debt given respective crowds and facilities?

Things are looking grim for us, very grim.

However reports of our death are, as yet, greatly exaggerated.
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Posted 19 November 2016 - 05:13 PM

"Mansfield is my home town, I was born here, I went to school here and I love Mansfield Town." - Sir John Radford

He owns the ground and we pay no rent whereas before The Dark Lord was charging us £100,000 a season. He also owns a business that has an annual turnover of £50 million and has stated that he'd never ask for any of his money back that he's put into the club

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£1.2m debt wiped off the club’s books
mansfieldtown.net, 21st January 2016

Mansfield Town are pleased to announce that a debt of £1.2m has been written off the club’s books.

Documents have been signed to turn a total sum of £1.2m, which derived as loans from chairman John Radford and directors Steve Hymas and Steve Middleton, into preference shares.

Read more at http://www.mansfield...vGcdEG2OJOi7.99

The paperwork was signed after the club's Annual General Meeting, which took place at One Call Stadium this afternoon.

Company secretary Laura Bathgate (pictured) was present on behalf of Steve Middleton.

Speaking to http://www.mansfieldtown.net, Mr Radford said: “We want to improve the balance sheets of the football club. It’s not good for anyone or any business to have debts and these loans will now come off the club’s books.

“Myself, Steve Middleton and Steve Hymas have never had, nor will have, any intention of taking money out of the club and by turning these loans into preference shares it makes the club’s finances much healthier.”

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Posted 19 November 2016 - 05:31 PM

Wow.

Just...wow.

Our little neighbours finally win one and you run home, as fast as your legs will carry you, to post on our forum.

Those decades of inferiority really have taken their toll, haven't they.

Anyway, will the appointment of someone universally loathed (and hey; the hypocrisy of embracing someone guilty of everything you've accused CFC of?) and a win or two see four thousand at Field Mill?

Only if we're in town, son, only if we're in town...
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Posted 19 November 2016 - 06:36 PM

View PostMDCCCLXVI, on 19 November 2016 - 05:31 PM, said:

Wow.

Just...wow.

Our little neighbours finally win one and you run home, as fast as your legs will carry you, to post on our forum.

Those decades of inferiority really have taken their toll, haven't they.

Anyway, will the appointment of someone universally loathed (and hey; the hypocrisy of embracing someone guilty of everything you've accused CFC of?) and a win or two see four thousand at Field Mill?

Only if we're in town, son, only if we're in town...


And even then it's only just, primarily due to Town fans buying tickets in the other two stands.
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Posted 19 November 2016 - 06:36 PM

View PostMDCCCLXVI, on 19 November 2016 - 05:31 PM, said:

Wow.

Just...wow.

Our little neighbours finally win one and you run home, as fast as your legs will carry you, to post on our forum.

Those decades of inferiority really have taken their toll, haven't they.

Anyway, will the appointment of someone universally loathed (and hey; the hypocrisy of embracing someone guilty of everything you've accused CFC of?) and a win or two see four thousand at Field Mill?

Only if we're in town, son, only if we're in town...


And even then it's only just, primarily due to Town fans buying tickets in the other two stands.
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Posted 19 November 2016 - 07:03 PM

The appointment of fat boy has clearly re-ignited the enthusiasm of the Mansfailed population. They nearly broke the 3000 barrier today.
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Posted 19 November 2016 - 07:52 PM

i heard if you had a wage bill of £0 that youd still need to get 7000 in just to break even?


Your club is a complete shambles. Now that *is* a fact.
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Posted 19 November 2016 - 07:58 PM

View PostMDCCCLXVI, on 19 November 2016 - 11:29 AM, said:


By the way, as a reasonable poster, do you honestly think Evans is a positive appointment?

We're all aware of his behaviour at Boston - prosecuted and banned as a result. Your small band of fellow Staggies are always calling us over the events of sixteen years ago - so isn't it gross hypocrisy to embrace a character with similar stains on his record?

He then jumped ship from Crawley given the prospect of spending Tony Stewart's millions at Rotherham. The cynical and suspicious might also say he'd spent Crawley up and knew he couldn't work on a budget.

Either way he furthered his reputation as an ugly character, on every level, always adding a needless insult or bombastic jibe. Increasing is collection of touchline bans, too. Until Stewart joined the Crawley supremo by reigning in the finances, at which point Fat Boy conveniently forgot all the sneering taunts he'd aimed at Leeds to takeover there.

Didn't exactly cover himsen' with glory, did he.

And now he's wobbled through the Field Mill door.

Steve Evans has been successful - but only when allowed a regular turnover of players whom he's bullied and cast aside. Allegedly. Will Radford perform a U-turn and re-open the 'One Call' account to fund that? Bearing in mind the historical indifference of the Mansfield public? If so your future may be bright; if not...well, don't be surprised if Evans exits fairly promptly after dragging your name into the gutter alongside his.


To not seemingly repeat myself constantly, if you saw my posts on Stagsnet regarding the appointment of Evans, they pretty much mirror what you've said there, and I've been lambasted abd criticised by virtually every other poster on there for them.

If he is here beyond his two and a half year contract there'll be nobody more surprised than me.
When you back something, you tend to study the form. The form book with Evans seems to show a correlation of immediate deterioration upon his exit. He has an extremely good knack of knowing when to abandon ship to preserve his successful looking CV.

Boston, need I say more. Crawley are now skint, loaning a striker from us who couldn't get a game even under Murray, and can't play for longer than half an hour without blowing out of his rectum.....and on today's evidence they are shocking.
Rotherham, rock bottom, and the only club who look less likely than yourselves at the moment of getting three points.

There's only Leeds where he's done a reasonable firefighting job and not had a ridiculous amount of cash to play with, and he wasn't wanted once his deal expired.

I'm very sceptical and cautious to say the least. Even more so after seeing what being two games away from the Championship has done for you, whilst knowing you more than double our attendances.
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