[Blue95]

despise everything about the club, isnt their chief exec on the FA board?

[martatcross]

fiddler2003, on 28 October 2012 - 06:48 PM, said:

Went to Wembley in 1958 and saw Bolton cheat Man U out of an FA Cup win.Yes ,it made me cry ! Went to the European Cup final in '68 -GREAT night -

SO....can somebody explain to me - like I'm a five year old - why I now dislike so much and have no respect for Manchester United here in 2012?

Is it owners who pay for their purchase with the clubs income .Is it the manager and his awful attitude - "I think Johnny caught him but he should have carried on ". (Can you imagine Ferguson having the same dignity as Di Matteo after a result like that ?) Is it the players - Evans -(laughing) -" Torres kicked me " - Or is it the supporters ?

Just what is it?

HELP !!

cant Blame Manchester United for disgracful Refereeing
Chelsea player gets sent off for clipping the Forwards heels no common sense used Red Card
Then almost exactly the same incident happens and Torres is sent off for diving
and then he allows a goal which was clearly offside. Now I have no allegence to either of these teams but believe I have had my Sunday view ruined because another Referee thinks we want to see them not a football match there is loads and loads of imcompetant refereeing.

[martatcross]

Dema Reborn, on 28 October 2012 - 06:58 PM, said:

I have seen worse challenges than the Torres one today and they haven't even been punished....

I dont have any bad feeling for either of these two teams I just think that referees have to be more accountable and use common sense Battenberg (sic) was very very poor and let some bad challenges go on both teams and then red carded two where is his common sense and I bet he thinks he was good I would give him 1/10 they say it even its self out and I suppose thats true but people pay a lot of money to see football not some idiot in a black shirt

[dim view]

fiddler2003, on 28 October 2012 - 06:48 PM, said:

SO....can somebody explain to me - like I'm a five year old - why I now dislike so much and have no respect for Manchester United here in 2012?

Is it owners who pay for their purchase with the clubs income .Is it the manager and his awful attitude - "I think Johnny caught him but he should have carried on ". (Can you imagine Ferguson having the same dignity as Di Matteo after a result like that ?)

It's maybe because AF has been knighted even though he's a thug. He's not interlectually capable of giving a balanced view that would benefit the game as a whole.

Why didn't he compare Torres's ability to 'carry on' with Young's ability to 'carry on'?.

A lot of these Knights of the Realm should be de-Knighted. I blame Blair and Campbell.

This post has been edited by dim view: 28 October 2012 - 07:20 PM

[Spire2001]

It's because they think they have God given right to win everything.
Best team in the world.? They're not even the best team in Manchester.

Q Dema.

[Tylerdurdencfc]

I think people dislike them because of the managers antics, always moaning about time, moaning about the decisions, moaning about everything that doesn't go their way. Plus the fact he will never give credit to other teams performances, its always someone elses fault they lost....he comes across as arrogant and unlikeable.

The players also seem to think they are untouchable from refs, if decisions go against them they surround the ref, again an unlikeable bunch personality wise.

The fans are very similar to Liverpool fans, Liverpools fans always see themselves as the victims...the Manchester fans again are pretty arrogant (not all but most etc)

Other fans are jealous of them as well,

The FA seem to set one rule for them another for other teams etc...


However credit were credit is due, they play football the correct way, are entertaining and have deserved their achievements and AF is the best manager in the world. However, I just wsh they would be likeable as it is they aren't.

The most likeable team and manager of the big clubs is Everton and David Moyes....Moyes is an excellent manager on a small budget, is sociable, tells it as it is and the club are very workman like and a community club....I don't think anyone can really accuse Everton as a club that is arrogant, or unlikeable.

[Blue95]

Dema Reborn, on 28 October 2012 - 07:21 PM, said:

I can't answer that i am afraid,United did very little wrong tonight,i think the decisions even affected United's performance.....i have learned over the years you will never win with match officials and there officiating....

too right they affected united's performance.
Slightly easier to play against 9 men when you have 12.

[Spire2001]

Dema Reborn, on 28 October 2012 - 07:25 PM, said:

Andy pal your upset

Upset.
I'm sat in a dark room drinking vodka and gently rocking back and forth.

[dim view]

Dema Reborn, on 28 October 2012 - 07:25 PM, said:

Andy pal your upset,the sending offs affected the game big time,first one was clear,second not so clear,diving is a big issue .......

.....and Young the worst exponent. Why was he less able than Torres to carry on?.

[Spire2001]

Dema Reborn, on 28 October 2012 - 08:02 PM, said:

I am losing the will to live......

Come and sit in my dark room. I have vodka.

[Heavy_Soul]

For me it's not just Manchester u tied - its any of the big clubs. People all over the country "support" them without ever actually going to see them.

It really does my head in - I don't go drinking in town much anymore but you used to see them all on a Sunday when a big premier league clash was going off- in the barracuda in their "teams" shirts watching the match.man u shirts, Chelsea shirts, Liverpool shirts yet how many of them actually have been to watch any of their matches?

Their is also the common reasoning of "my family supports them so I do"

I'm from chesterfield - I support chesterfield. No other team and that's how it should be.