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#1 User is offline   jack bauer 

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Posted 04 April 2012 - 08:51 PM

Just wanted to throw one up for debate regarding the 2 DM's who in different ways have been cast aside this season. Barring a minor miracle we are in league 2 next season. On the evidence of last season we know both are more than capable of having significant impact in league 2, so was it premature to release Dwayne (given we were up against it from November to beat the drop) and does JS have to swallow some pride and get Morgan back on side for next season. Morgan's level probably is league 2 on evidence of last 2 seasons. As i say one for debate, obviously Mattis isn't coming back but Morgan... well i'd be tempted to offer another year. (don't think he will though)
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Posted 04 April 2012 - 08:58 PM

Even if we were to offer Morgan a new deal, do you think he'd sign it, given whats happened this season??
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Posted 04 April 2012 - 08:59 PM

View Postjack bauer, on 04 April 2012 - 08:51 PM, said:

Just wanted to throw one up for debate regarding the 2 DM's who in different ways have been cast aside this season. Barring a minor miracle we are in league 2 next season. On the evidence of last season we know both are more than capable of having significant impact in league 2, so was it premature to release Dwayne (given we were up against it from November to beat the drop) and does JS have to swallow some pride and get Morgan back on side for next season. Morgan's level probably is league 2 on evidence of last 2 seasons. As i say one for debate, obviously Mattis isn't coming back but Morgan... well i'd be tempted to offer another year. (don't think he will though)


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Posted 04 April 2012 - 09:00 PM

The only thing I'd offer Morgan is a one way ticket out .. He's spent a hell of a lot of his time here injured, as a reserve player, seemingly winding people up with his social networking and at loggerheads (???) withbthe management team .. If Shezza is staying then Deano has to go and wreak havoc elsewhere ..
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Posted 04 April 2012 - 09:00 PM

I've no idea what went wrong with Mattis but he look shot when I saw him this season. As for Morgan, it's not going to happen.

Just looked and Mattis hasn't played since scoring on debut for Macc. What's happen to him?

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Posted 04 April 2012 - 09:01 PM

Why are we all so quick to blame JS in the feud between him and Morgan? Deano hasnt been at oxford a month yet the fans have already clicked on to his attitude and work rate issues and he's been on the bench for some games which considering there striking injury crisis says a lot. Or is Chris Wilder to blame too and Morgan the innocent party?
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Posted 04 April 2012 - 09:02 PM

View PostSammy Spireite, on 04 April 2012 - 08:58 PM, said:

Even if we were to offer Morgan a new deal, do you think he'd sign it, given whats happened this season??

you know what i think he might, i think he likes it here, CFC has a way of doing this to people and the thought that he could be part of a team again where he is the key would appeal to him. I also think deep down he knows his level which i reckon explains his performances this season and all the surrounding stuff, he knows he can't do it at league one level and as we have seen there is a significant step up from lg 2 to 1 and he knows he can do it at league two level.
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Posted 04 April 2012 - 09:02 PM

View PostHeavy_Soul, on 04 April 2012 - 08:59 PM, said:

No no no to Morgan.

Agreed man, it's over. Sometimes it's best to accept such things. I know I've been frustrated by him, as most of us have this season, but I honestly do wish Morgs the best, wherever he ends up - I cannot see him in a town shirt again though.
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Posted 04 April 2012 - 09:03 PM

View Postjack bauer, on 04 April 2012 - 09:02 PM, said:

you know what i think he might, i think he likes it here, CFC has a way of doing this to people and the thought that he could be part of a team again where he is the key would appeal to him. I also think deep down he knows his level which i reckon explains his performances this season and all the surrounding stuff, he knows he can't do it at league one level and as we have seen there is a significant step up from lg 2 to 1 and he knows he can do it at league two level.

The only thought the Club will be giving Morgan's future is, thankgoodness we only offered him 12 months.
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Posted 04 April 2012 - 09:08 PM

View PostColoquix, on 04 April 2012 - 09:02 PM, said:

Agreed man, it's over. Sometimes it's best to accept such things. I know I've been frustrated by him, as most of us have this season, but I honestly do wish Morgs the best, wherever he ends up - I cannot see him in a town shirt again though.

Saturday is Morgans last game at Oxford before he returns to us (unless his deal gets extended), stranger things have happened!
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Posted 04 April 2012 - 09:09 PM

Just been on oxfords forum they can't wait to get rid of him.
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Posted 04 April 2012 - 09:13 PM

View Postblue blood, on 04 April 2012 - 09:09 PM, said:

Just been on oxfords forum they can't wait to get rid of him.


Can you blame them?

Mind you when he reads it on their messageboard the Oxford fans will know f*** all according to his twitter.
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Posted 04 April 2012 - 09:16 PM

View PostHeavy_Soul, on 04 April 2012 - 09:13 PM, said:

Can you blame them?

Mind you when he reads it on their messageboard the Oxford fans will know f*** all according to his twitter.



No mate i don't. Dean Morgan is his own worst enemy.
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Posted 04 April 2012 - 09:18 PM

View Postblue blood, on 04 April 2012 - 09:16 PM, said:

No mate i don't. Dean Morgan is his own worst enemy.


Never a truer word said mate.

What is it that twitter thing does - @blueblood knows f--- all haha
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Posted 04 April 2012 - 09:28 PM

View PostHeavy_Soul, on 04 April 2012 - 09:18 PM, said:

Never a truer word said mate.

What is it that twitter thing does - @blueblood knows f--- all haha

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Posted 04 April 2012 - 09:38 PM

View PostWestbars Spireite, on 04 April 2012 - 09:00 PM, said:

I've no idea what went wrong with Mattis but he look shot when I saw him this season. As for Morgan, it's not going to happen.

Just looked and Mattis hasn't played since scoring on debut for Macc. What's happen to him?



ankle injury out for the rest of the season
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Posted 04 April 2012 - 09:39 PM

View PostColoquix, on 04 April 2012 - 09:02 PM, said:

Agreed man, it's over. Sometimes it's best to accept such things. I know I've been frustrated by him, as most of us have this season, but I honestly do wish Morgs the best, wherever he ends up - I cannot see him in a town shirt again though.

To he/she who negged me, genuine question...is it the assumption that Morgs will not play for us again or the fact that I wish him well that offends? :D Seriously though, he annoyed me massively with his digs at town, but I also respect those moments when he did shine. Basically, I dont hope that he ends up at Mansfield as I wouldn't wish that on anyone (and stranger things have certainly happened).
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Posted 04 April 2012 - 09:47 PM

Morgan will be shipped out amd mattis along with a lot of the squad we have got just isnt good enough. The only thing I would offer Morgan is a one way ticket out of town (a wasted Talent) a legend in his own head such a shame but we need passion and a will to put on the Blue shirt he as neither
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Posted 04 April 2012 - 09:51 PM

View Postmartatcross, on 04 April 2012 - 09:47 PM, said:

Morgan will be shipped out amd mattis along with a lot of the squad we have got just isnt good enough. The only thing I would offer Morgan is a one way ticket out of town (a wasted Talent) a legend in his own head such a shame but we need passion and a will to put on the Blue shirt he as neither



That pretty much what the oxford fans are saying. But a yellow shirt..
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Posted 04 April 2012 - 09:57 PM

quality player (morgan) but I personally got it wrong on here recently it seems sticking up for him. i made my submissions on that post that i did regret my support for him and felt a bit disappointed to be honest.

I would like him here and winning fans over with 10+ goals and 15+ assists in that division. he is capable of it at a canter. but has maybe talked or acted his way out of the opportunity. And i cant help but feel more disappointment in him than i do with myself for that.

Big fan of his abilities....always will be. but it cant come at a cost.
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