[RPL42YEARS]

.... many more years will we need to live to witness it?

What changes need to be made to the game to put an end to "XX/XXX years of pain"?

[Tylerdurdencfc]

RPL42YEARS, on 13 February 2012 - 09:34 PM, said:

.... many more years will we need to live to witness it?

What changes need to be made to the game to put an end to "XX/XXX years of pain"?

Probably only sensible post you have written

[martatcross]

RPL42YEARS, on 13 February 2012 - 09:34 PM, said:

.... many more years will we need to live to witness it?

What changes need to be made to the game to put an end to "XX/XXX years of pain"?

Dont thing very many who are old enough to read or write on this message board will see It mate

[Westbars Spireite]

Can't say I'm that bothered really.

More interested in Chesterfield FC.

[SpireiteFitzy]

As soon as they see sense and put tommy in net then our wait will be over

[Elmer Fudd's Thick Lip]

SpireiteFitzy, on 13 February 2012 - 11:03 PM, said:

As soon as they see sense and put tommy in net then our wait will be over

Give over man. Joe Hart would walk into most national teams. He along with Rooney and Gerrard are our only true world class players IMO.

The problems lie elsewhere. Mainly the grassroots game.

[SpireiteFitzy]

Dave Wallers, on 14 February 2012 - 12:46 AM, said:

Give over man. Joe Hart would walk into most national teams. He along with Rooney and Gerrard are our only true world class players IMO.

The problems lie elsewhere. Mainly the grassroots game.

Your forgetting ashley cole, one of the best left backs in the world

[Wooden Spoon]

RPL42YEARS, on 13 February 2012 - 09:34 PM, said:

.... many more years will we need to live to witness it?

What changes need to be made to the game to put an end to "XX/XXX years of pain"?

same as greece/denmark did. play to your strengths- IMO organised defesively strong back to the wall, counter attack, defensive gutsy football based on playing the %. Think the Old trafford semi final.


Play for corners free kicks long throwins to get 1 goal, or 1 goal on the counter then a resolutses battling display to keep em out.


Try to ppay the `eurogame` and we will do what we always do - reach the 1/4 final at best and lose to the first good side we meet.

This post has been edited by Spinach chin: 14 February 2012 - 02:17 AM

[Oscar Tone]

We've got to the topof the pile at both cricket & rugby in recent years.. Largely through hard work. Afraid thats the secret really.

[Paul Fisher]

SpireiteFitzy, on 14 February 2012 - 02:12 AM, said:

Your forgetting ashley cole, one of the best left backs in the world

Yes he's certainly one of the best left backs, but not the best anymore.

[Andy Spireite]

Spire Writer, on 14 February 2012 - 10:10 AM, said:

Yes he's certainly one of the best left backs, but not the best anymore.

He's also somebody who it is extremely easy to dislike, which is the same for far too many England players for one reason or another.

[newbold ken]

We only lost on pens 1998 2004 2006 two of them with ten men can't be that bad .
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[jamie_bolsover]

newbold ken, on 14 February 2012 - 10:37 AM, said:

We only lost on pens 1998 2004 2006 two of them with ten men can't be that bad .

The word lost says it all.

The word win hasnt been heard since 66'.

[newboldsteve]

never while ever we try to play there style of football make every game fast like in most prem games we would have a chance

This post has been edited by newboldsteve: 14 February 2012 - 11:48 AM

[jamie_bolsover]

newboldsteve, on 14 February 2012 - 11:48 AM, said:

never while ever we try to play there style of football make every game fast like in most prem games we would have a chance

My sentiments exactly, impose a English game on them and at least were playing our game and not theirs.

[Town_Fan]

RPL42YEARS, on 13 February 2012 - 09:34 PM, said:

.... many more years will we need to live to witness it?

What changes need to be made to the game to put an end to "XX/XXX years of pain"?

Bring Griffiths, Randall and Smalley into the England squad and it's a done deal.

[Stallion Blue]

Spire Writer, on 14 February 2012 - 10:10 AM, said:

Yes he's certainly one of the best left backs, but not the best anymore.

who's better than ashley.. i would like to know.. not many thats for sure.

[FORZA AZZURRI]

http://www.wirralglo...8/?type=display

Hes the only man for England ! ha

[Cookie0124]

Spinach chin, on 14 February 2012 - 02:16 AM, said:

same as greece/denmark did. play to your strengths- IMO organised defesively strong back to the wall, counter attack, defensive gutsy football based on playing the %. Think the Old trafford semi final.


Play for corners free kicks long throwins to get 1 goal, or 1 goal on the counter then a resolutses battling display to keep em out.


Try to ppay the `eurogame` and we will do what we always do - reach the 1/4 final at best and lose to the first good side we meet.

So, play like we did against Spain in the friendly?

[SalvadorDarley]

CookieBlue0124, on 14 February 2012 - 03:02 PM, said:

So, play like we did against Spain in the friendly?

England have never won a knockout match against a major football nation in either a WC or EC outside Wembley. The idea that we can suddenly string 2 or 3 of these results together to win a tournament is fanciful.

To address this we need a totally different football culture which invests in the long term infrastructure of the game to enable us to produce enough young lads who can play football properly. As long as the Premier League hoovers up all the cash whilst schoolkids play on dire pitches without proper facilities and coaching nothing will get better.

If you go to even the smallest town in places like Germany and Holland you will see publicly available sporting facilities that are far superior to what many professional clubs in the UK have.

And to follow up re coaching, countries like Germany and Spain have 8-10 times more Uefa qualified coaches than we have. This is being addressed but progress is slow.