[Sammy Spireite]

metallilad, on 18 September 2011 - 10:04 PM, said:

Maybe he's here till then and big chief money grabber will come back from Barnsley for the rest of the season.

Clarke is here til early December.

Also, can i ask you a question? What do you do for a living?

[60s 70s Spireite]

It just maybe that any average striker (in a previous life, eg Davies, Clarke, Smalley) can score in this side, because of the way we play and the playmakers we have at full back, in midfield and on the wing

[metallilad]

Sammy Spireite, on 18 September 2011 - 10:08 PM, said:

Clarke is here til early December.

Also, can i ask you a question? What do you do for a living?

I'm a manager at a heating company and I've had countless conversations with people about "being offered better money to work somewhere else". It doesn't wash with me.
In my book loyalty is everything.

[Sammy Spireite]

metallilad, on 18 September 2011 - 10:29 PM, said:

I'm a manager at a heating company and I've had countless conversations with people about "being offered better money to work somewhere else". It doesn't wash with me.
In my book loyalty is everything.

Loyalty doesn't pay the bills though does it, and a footballers career is short.

We knew what we were getting when we signed a player on a 1 year deal with more clubs than seasons as a pro.

I don't believe you wouldn't move jobs for the thought of an extra £2k per week, thats £100k extra a year!!

[CFC_SJL]

Spire, i think if you were actually ever offered that it would be alot harder to turn down than just saying it hypothetically now.

Are you seriously telling me that if you were offered more money to work at a bigger company with more chance of success and a much bigger budget for you to gain success and extra bonuses you'd seriously turn it down?

If you say you would turn it down youve obviously never been in that position or you're crackers

[Sammy Spireite]

Spire 12345 (Rotherham 0), on 18 September 2011 - 10:30 PM, said:

Agree, if someone offered me 15k a year more I'd turn it down?? Just saying. Being happy means more.

were not talking about an extra £15k a year are we, its more an extra £15k a month!!

And who says he was happy here last season? His attitude towards the management in some games suggested otherwise.

[azul]

warfey is a spireite, on 17 September 2011 - 09:13 PM, said:

thats what they toldme ,one drunken one said u can have him for a miliion , obviously clouded by a shandy or two lol

They really hate the guy

http://thetownend.co...5;topicseen#new

They seem to have swallowed the Di Canio spin hook, line and sinker.

Normally there would be some balance to the discussion but not in this case. I didn't bother searching for the posts when they signed him but I bet they were creaming themselves.

They seem to think they'll get a fee for him; not if they are paying £6K per week! They'll be lucky if they don't have to pay up some of his contract

[metallilad]

Spire 12345 (Rotherham 0), on 18 September 2011 - 10:30 PM, said:

Agree, if someone offered me 15k a year more I'd turn it down?? Just saying. Being happy means more.

Going by what was reported on here then he was offered 4k a week.
I dont earn anywhere near that and I can manage to pay a mortgage,buy clothes and shoes for my child, run a car, put food on the table, pay bills, go out drinking whenever I want, buy seson tickets for my son and I and still save up.

I'm lucky that I can do all this, because a load of families don't live as comfortable as us.
So don't try telling me that he did what was best for his family, because 4k a week is more than comfortable.
Thats where loyalty comes into it.

[CFC_SJL]

So it was because of the drive that you turned it down not cos of the extra money, therefore your not that much better off with an extra 4 hour drive a day.

However a footballer's got to be prepared to move with his job, he'll probably get put up in a hotel by the club as we have for a few.

£1250 a month is not really that much when your talking about footballers moving for an extra 2\4\6k a week

[metallilad]

Spire 12345 (Rotherham 0), on 18 September 2011 - 10:40 PM, said:

Comparing footballers to normal 9-5 workers is silly IMO due to the expiry date.

Footballers do go into different lines of work when there career is over.

This post has been edited by metallilad: 18 September 2011 - 10:48 PM

[Sammy Spireite]

metallilad, on 18 September 2011 - 10:42 PM, said:

Going by what was reported on here then he was offered 4k a week.
I dont earn anywhere near that and I can manage to pay a mortgage,buy clothes and shoes for my child, run a car, put food on the table, pay bills, go out drinking whenever I want, buy seson tickets for my son and I and still save up.

I'm lucky that I can do all this, because a load of families don't live as comfortable as us.
So don't try telling me that he did what was best for his family, because 4k a week is more than comfortable.
Thats where loyalty comes into it.

and do you think you'll still be able to do your job to the sane standard as now when you are 40? 50?? 60??

Ok, you say loyalty is everything to you, very commendable, pressumably you have worked for the same company all your life??

FWIW, i dont think loyalty is a word that exists much in football anymore.

Spire 12345 (Rotherham 0), on 18 September 2011 - 10:40 PM, said:

Comparing footballers to normal 9-5 workers is silly IMO due to the expiry date.

so why compare it to your own personal situation then??

[CFC_SJL]

metallilad, your career is probably going to last longer than your 33 too.

Footballers at this level have to make their money whilst they can and you live to your means, look at the premiership players wanting more than £100k a week

[CFC_SJL]

I'd guess around 3k but i reckon Jack took a pay cut for the 2 year deal

Pure guess work though

[metallilad]

djs, on 18 September 2011 - 10:47 PM, said:

Can anyone on here say for sure what Jack's on or Davies was on last year?
It's all guess work!!
Nobody knows any of the paid out wages of any player.

No. Your right but you can garuantee that players like Davies and Jack aren't on the same wage as joe bloggs who lifts boxes for a living.

[Sammy Spireite]

Spire 12345 (Rotherham 0), on 18 September 2011 - 10:50 PM, said:

Because there would be no debate if everyone agreed with everyone.

so, let me get this right:

Firstly, you raise the issue of your turning down a £15k pay rise offer to work elsewhere

Then, you say comparing footballers to "normal" worker is silly

Then, when challenged about the above, you attempt to justify bringing your own situation in to it?!!

I'm scrathcing my head here!

metallilad, on 18 September 2011 - 10:52 PM, said:

No. Your right but you can garuantee that players like Davies and Jack aren't on the same wage as joe bloggs who lifts boxes for a living.

and rightly so

I guess your one of the "Premiership players are disgusting for accpeting £100K a week" brigade too?