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Posted 01 September 2011 - 07:07 AM

record crowds , a quality team and exciting times last year , season ticket sold by the bucketload , moneys in store , beer , pies etc etc , we all went away joius of winning the league last season , although we knew craig davies would be going for nowt back in april , we had faith hed be replaced by shez , HOWEVER 4-5 MONTHS later he hasnt ,SMALLEY going was a suprise to a lower team , but most of us would have put up with that , knowing shez wed have adequate replacements , season starts and in 5 games 1 point , no adequate strikers as replacements , in between a 6-2 drubbing at MK,3 alleged strikers set to come , didnt , fans getting worried at all the silence ,i love this team for 40 yrs and will go regardless , but it looks like were trying to muddle through , i posted weeks ago , has the budget been swolled up by shez and crossleys contracts , cos someats not right ,
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Posted 01 September 2011 - 08:08 AM

What do you think is not right David?

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Posted 01 September 2011 - 08:29 AM

what worries me is, who's abducted warfey and replaced him with someone that uses punctuation marks and and not all capitals, i could read this post and it made sense, GIVE US WARFEY BACK YOU IMPOSTER!
all we are saying, is give us ...a goal, or 2+
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Posted 01 September 2011 - 08:36 AM

View Postspireitetoo, on 01 September 2011 - 08:29 AM, said:

what worries me is, who's abducted warfey and replaced him with someone that uses punctuation marks and and not all capitals, i could read this post and it made sense, GIVE US WARFEY BACK YOU IMPOSTER!

sitting here laughing , how now brown cow , ican talk proper lol :rolleyes:
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Posted 01 September 2011 - 08:49 AM

View Postwarfey is a spireite, on 01 September 2011 - 08:36 AM, said:

sitting here laughing , how now brown cow , ican talk proper lol :rolleyes:

its not that he cant spell its just somebody has put the keyboard on the top shelf :lol:
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Posted 01 September 2011 - 08:51 AM

View Postwarfey is a spireite, on 01 September 2011 - 07:07 AM, said:

record crowds , a quality team and exciting times last year , season ticket sold by the bucketload , moneys in store , beer , pies etc etc , we all went away joius of winning the league last season , although we knew craig davies would be going for nowt back in april , we had faith hed be replaced by shez , HOWEVER 4-5 MONTHS later he hasnt ,SMALLEY going was a suprise to a lower team , but most of us would have put up with that , knowing shez wed have adequate replacements , season starts and in 5 games 1 point , no adequate strikers as replacements , in between a 6-2 drubbing at MK,3 alleged strikers set to come , didnt , fans getting worried at all the silence ,i love this team for 40 yrs and will go regardless , but it looks like were trying to muddle through , i posted weeks ago , has the budget been swolled up by shez and crossleys contracts , cos someats not right ,


I agree somethings wrong. For now its clear we've been lead up the garden path.
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Posted 01 September 2011 - 08:52 AM

View Postbonnyman, on 01 September 2011 - 08:49 AM, said:

its not that he cant spell its just somebody has put the keyboard on the top shelf :lol:

oi lol i aint got a leg to stand on
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Posted 01 September 2011 - 09:46 AM

View Postwarfey is a spireite, on 01 September 2011 - 07:07 AM, said:

record crowds , a quality team and exciting times last year , season ticket sold by the bucketload , moneys in store , beer , pies etc etc , we all went away joius of winning the league last season , although we knew craig davies would be going for nowt back in april , we had faith hed be replaced by shez , HOWEVER 4-5 MONTHS later he hasnt ,SMALLEY going was a suprise to a lower team , but most of us would have put up with that , knowing shez wed have adequate replacements , season starts and in 5 games 1 point , no adequate strikers as replacements , in between a 6-2 drubbing at MK,3 alleged strikers set to come , didnt , fans getting worried at all the silence ,i love this team for 40 yrs and will go regardless , but it looks like were trying to muddle through , i posted weeks ago , has the budget been swolled up by shez and crossleys contracts , cos someats not right ,


Good post Warf, I tend to agree.
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Posted 01 September 2011 - 09:57 AM

Not a bad post in comparison to some on this board lately but although bigger crowds,pies,beer how much money do you think we have made in our ONE good season
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Posted 01 September 2011 - 10:08 AM

Oh dear, so now it’s there is a giant conspiracy to stop us winning this league? What is it this time, vast reserves of coal found under the B2net so the board are deliberately making sure we fail? Or DA and BH want to move us to the Isle of Wight, like the bloke at Milton Keynes, so they can have a house by the sea? Or is it the always popular with town fans, the board don’t want us to go up as it would cost too much so they are deliberately sabotaging our campaign, I haven’t heard that one for a year or two. Takes a special kind of paranoia to believe in giant conspiracies in my view, unfortunately we seem to be over stocked with the kind of person who would willingly believe in them on here. :lol:

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Posted 01 September 2011 - 12:47 PM

I can go along with Dave's frustration and I admire his determination not to let things spoil his support for the side - well said, that man. In very broad terms my take is that JS identified certain targets who would be an improvement on the people who left, but who were also targets for other clubs with a greater spending power than us. Our offer for Donaldson, for instance, would have made him our highest-paid player but was topped by Brentford by about £1300 a week, and as I understand it they'll be paying him a third of a million pounds a year, without bonuses. It is safe to assume that similar happened with Smalley and N'Guessan, and these are the three players I think are alluded to in other threads about this, describing contracts agreed with us and drawn up, only for the players to sign elsewhere without having the sense to come back and see if we would improve our offers.

JS's desire to improve things has prevented him from signing anyone who wouldn't clearly do that; while it is possible to applaud Bury for moving swiftly to relace Lowe with Harrad, we'll see whether that's strengthened them or not in a few weeks. We might have moved in May to get Ross Hannah, say, to wear the number nine, but would he have replaced Davies, much less improve on him?

Even though we've gone past the point where JS has had to lower his standards a bit, I still expect Mendy and Westcarr to contribute their share, but I'll have a better idea about how much after Saturday, I hope.
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Posted 01 September 2011 - 01:30 PM

Bloody ... Erm... Heck
Nearly six and a half grand a week for donaldson!!!!

No, He isn't worth that.
The other players going to other clubs to beat our deals, smacks of the players or their agent's simply using us a yardstick to get more more cash out of the other teams without any intention of signing for us.
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Posted 01 September 2011 - 01:56 PM

View PostDenny, on 01 September 2011 - 01:30 PM, said:

B****Y ... Erm... Heck
Nearly six and a half grand a week for donaldson!!!!

No, He isn't worth that.
The other players going to other clubs to beat our deals, smacks of the players or their agent's simply using us a yardstick to get more more cash out of the other teams without any intention of signing for us.

Then my maths is wrong - I heard they were paying him about 4.5k pw. Still a good one and a bit more than we agreed with him. How much does that make it per year? Quarter of a million, ish?
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Posted 01 September 2011 - 02:26 PM

View PostOdysseus, on 01 September 2011 - 10:08 AM, said:

Oh dear, so now it’s there is a giant conspiracy to stop us winning this league? What is it this time, vast reserves of coal found under the B2net so the board are deliberately making sure we fail? Or DA and BH want to move us to the Isle of Wight, like the bloke at Milton Keynes, so they can have a house by the sea? Or is it the always popular with town fans, the board don’t want us to go up as it would cost too much so they are deliberately sabotaging our campaign, I haven’t heard that one for a year or two. Takes a special kind of paranoia to believe in giant conspiracies in my view, unfortunately we seem to be over stocked with the kind of person who would willingly believe in them on here. :lol:

P.S. There was a second man on the “grassy knoll”, aliens are amongst us, the moon landing were faked and the board are conspiring against us! :wacko:

I want to believe! :blink:



Hasn't BH been quoted saying we are better off near top of L2 than bottom of L1 :angry:
With that philosophy ... Where's the ambition and "Plan"
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Posted 01 September 2011 - 02:28 PM

View PostSpire-ite, on 01 September 2011 - 02:26 PM, said:


Hasn't BH been quoted saying we are better off near top of L2 than bottom of L1 :angry:

With that philosophy ... Where's the ambition and "Plan"


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Posted 01 September 2011 - 02:36 PM

what i dont understand is whats happened to the attraction that we had last season. surely over the summer we had even more attraction as a team thats just won the league whereas last season all we had was new stadium and players wanted to come, but now players are changing there mind.
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Posted 01 September 2011 - 03:01 PM

View Postspireitetoo, on 01 September 2011 - 08:29 AM, said:

what worries me is, who's abducted warfey and replaced him with someone that uses punctuation marks and and not all capitals, i could read this post and it made sense, GIVE US WARFEY BACK YOU IMPOSTER!



Too many commas in the wrong places and at the end finishes with one, still same Warfey.
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Posted 01 September 2011 - 03:51 PM

View Postwarfey is a spireite, on 01 September 2011 - 07:07 AM, said:

record crowds , a quality team and exciting times last year , season ticket sold by the bucketload , moneys in store , beer , pies etc etc , we all went away joius of winning the league last season , although we knew craig davies would be going for nowt back in april , we had faith hed be replaced by shez , HOWEVER 4-5 MONTHS later he hasnt ,SMALLEY going was a suprise to a lower team , but most of us would have put up with that , knowing shez wed have adequate replacements , season starts and in 5 games 1 point , no adequate strikers as replacements , in between a 6-2 drubbing at MK,3 alleged strikers set to come , didnt , fans getting worried at all the silence ,i love this team for 40 yrs and will go regardless , but it looks like were trying to muddle through , i posted weeks ago , has the budget been swolled up by shez and crossleys contracts , cos someats not right ,



Several people have explained this, including the CFSS vice chair - money is available for high league on salaries(in CFC terms), still to be used from the budget, however our targeted players have gone elsewhere for higher offers.

If that has not sunk in yet - well then its obvious that something is not right............
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Posted 01 September 2011 - 04:10 PM

"Where's the ambition?" is a question that is often best considered from a seat at the B2Net Stadium.
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Posted 01 September 2011 - 04:30 PM

View PostStuart Basson, on 01 September 2011 - 04:10 PM, said:

"Where's the ambition?" is a question that is often best considered from a seat at the B2Net Stadium.


Where is the ambition? Good question and one we have been asking for years. I have been supporting this lot for over 45 years now and in that time I have seen just 5 promotions, all from what is ostensibly division 4 to divison 3. Now that doesn't seem a great deal to me, because it also means I have seen just as many relegations to go with it. Lets be honest here, 1 promotion every 9 years (because thats what it works out at) isn't a lot to get excited about. At this rate I'll be 63 before I see my next one and we'll have to have gone down to division 4 before I actually see it!
I think, as supporters, we have a right to expect a little more from our club. We may well agree that we can't live with the big boys in the premiership, those days are long gone - but one season in a division higher than this would be nice, hells bells even the scabs managed that!
I'm not what one would call a 'negative, moaning fan' but equally my head isn't firmly entrenched in the sand to notice that we haven't actually done right by the supporters this season. Just saying "Shez will make it right in the end" doesn't necessarily make it so. To be honest I find events a little disturbing because, come to think of it, I cannot ever remember a Chesterfield side that has looked so out of depth once it has been promoted.
Hopefully the manager will get the breaks - hopefully the footballers will come here, but one things for sure - those who said that our new facilities would be a big draw for players are way off mark, I think we can safely say that if you pay them they will come. They don't actually care whether its Saltergate or a state of the art ground - if the money is in the bank then they are happy.
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