[Ollerton Opinion]

The 2 home defeats have highlighted what the majority already knew - we have no strength in depth. The players coming off the bench are not'impact'players and as such are unlikely to change a game.

Teams are now coming to Chesterfield having done their homework: Put 11 men behind the ball, stop us playing through midfield and therefore to the feet of the forwards. Teams know that we leak goals and that we have a philosophy of we can score 1 more than the opposition - well by having watched us they can now stop us scoring freely whilst we are still conceding.

We play our most effective football through midfield using Allott, Niven, Whittaker, Talbot and Morgan who then look to service Lester and Davies on the floor to feet. We have in the past 2 home games not been allowed to play like this and have resorted to playing it out wide hoping to get in a hopeful cross to forwards who don't want the ball in the air, but want it to feet.

What must players like Breckin and Page feel like when Robertson, who by trade is a left sided defender/midfielder is selected to play at centre back - surely they can read the writing on the wall.

Basically we need to instigate a plan B, because as teams have 'worked us out'I am afraid I cannot see nay sight of an alternative way of playing.

[JonB]

Rutland Rant, on 24 November 2010 - 03:03 PM, said:

The 2 home defeats have highlighted what the majority already knew - we have no strength in depth. The players coming off the bench are not'impact'players and as such are unlikely to change a game.

Teams are now coming to Chesterfield having done their homework: Put 11 men behind the ball, stop us playing through midfield and therefore to the feet of the forwards. Teams know that we leak goals and that we have a philosophy of we can score 1 more than the opposition - well by having watched us they can now stop us scoring freely whilst we are still conceding.

We play our most effective football through midfield using Allott, Niven, Whittaker, Talbot and Morgan who then look to service Lester and Davies on the floor to feet. We have in the past 2 home games not been allowed to play like this and have resorted to playing it out wide hoping to get in a hopeful cross to forwards who don't want the ball in the air, but want it to feet.

What must players like Breckin and Page feel like when Robertson, who by trade is a left sided defender/midfielder is selected to play at centre back - surely they can read the writing on the wall.

Basically we need to instigate a plan B, because as teams have 'worked us out'I am afraid I cannot see nay sight of an alternative way of playing.

Firstly....we are a low budget 4th division club so its going to be very unlikely that we could cope with a large number missing. There are plenty in divisions far higher than us that would struggle if they lost the backbone of the side.

Also Breckin probably felt more crap due to his flu by all accounts than he felt anything about being behind Robertson whilst i believe Page was also not fully fit.

[DIFH]

Rutland Rant, on 24 November 2010 - 03:03 PM, said:

The 2 home defeats have highlighted what the majority already knew - we have no strength in depth. The players coming off the bench are not'impact'players and as such are unlikely to change a game.

Teams are now coming to Chesterfield having done their homework: Put 11 men behind the ball, stop us playing through midfield and therefore to the feet of the forwards. Teams know that we leak goals and that we have a philosophy of we can score 1 more than the opposition - well by having watched us they can now stop us scoring freely whilst we are still conceding.

We play our most effective football through midfield using Allott, Niven, Whittaker, Talbot and Morgan who then look to service Lester and Davies on the floor to feet. We have in the past 2 home games not been allowed to play like this and have resorted to playing it out wide hoping to get in a hopeful cross to forwards who don't want the ball in the air, but want it to feet.

What must players like Breckin and Page feel like when Robertson, who by trade is a left sided defender/midfielder is selected to play at centre back - surely they can read the writing on the wall.

Basically we need to instigate a plan B, because as teams have 'worked us out'I am afraid I cannot see nay sight of an alternative way of playing.

Thats all fine and dandy but seeing as Niven and Morgan are absent it kind of blows your logic out of Rutland water.

Rutland Rant, on 24 November 2010 - 03:03 PM, said:

The 2 home defeats have highlighted what the majority already knew - we have no strength in depth. The players coming off the bench are not'impact'players and as such are unlikely to change a game.

Teams are now coming to Chesterfield having done their homework: Put 11 men behind the ball, stop us playing through midfield and therefore to the feet of the forwards. Teams know that we leak goals and that we have a philosophy of we can score 1 more than the opposition - well by having watched us they can now stop us scoring freely whilst we are still conceding.

We play our most effective football through midfield using Allott, Niven, Whittaker, Talbot and Morgan who then look to service Lester and Davies on the floor to feet. We have in the past 2 home games not been allowed to play like this and have resorted to playing it out wide hoping to get in a hopeful cross to forwards who don't want the ball in the air, but want it to feet.

What must players like Breckin and Page feel like when Robertson, who by trade is a left sided defender/midfielder is selected to play at centre back - surely they can read the writing on the wall.

Basically we need to instigate a plan B, because as teams have 'worked us out'I am afraid I cannot see nay sight of an alternative way of playing.

OH AND BY THE WAY - WELCOME ABOARD.

[Ollerton Opinion]

Dave In Footie Heaven, on 24 November 2010 - 03:11 PM, said:

Thats all fine and dandy but seeing as Niven and Morgan are absent it kind of blows your logic out of Rutland water.


OH AND BY THE WAY - WELCOME ABOARD.

Thanks for the welcome - Dave in footie heaven

[Goku]

I was raging last night but looking back on things, it's not as bad as we think. Even with Whittaker giving the ball away at will and Allott not being his usual self, we created more than enough opportunities to win the game before half time. In the first half they didn't stop us playing at all. We struggled in the second half but still could've scored a few.

[lindave]

We were crap and there's no 3 ways about it.Forget the last 2 home games, we can bring 3 pts back from Bury, then let;s hope the lads can bounce back to winning ways against Torquay. We are 2nd in the league and deserve to be i the top two with the great performances we have put in so far this season.We need Griff.back in January ad lets hope we can hold onto Hunt for a bit longer. If we can get Lowery back to form in the New Year then the midfield will be beefed up enough to help us to the Championship.

[Goku]

Defending we were indeed crap. Going forward and creating chances we certainly weren't - poor finishing cost us alongside sloppy defending.

[DIFH]

Rutland Rant, on 24 November 2010 - 03:20 PM, said:

Thanks for the welcome - Dave in footie heaven

NO PROBS, OH AND BY THE WAY YOU CAN USE YOUR CAPS LOCK ON HERE WITHOUT FEAR OR FAVOUR FROM OTHER POSTERS.

[S43_Spireite]

In games before (Accrington and Srewsbury to name 2) we have hit the back of the net with most of our attempts, thus getting 5 and 4 respectively.

Last night could have ended up 4-2, 4-3 (tommys 2nd half stop), 5-2, 5-3, etc etc......the biggest difference was, we did NOT score from our chances......yes we looked poor, no width and at times VERY slow but it could have been so much different.

I thought that Oxford passed the ball well, gave us no time and threw themselves at everything, I seriously did not think that they were that much of a threat on goal.

I posted before the game that, teams will come to the B2NET and raise their game, because we are now a scalp to all those below us, we can expect ALL our games to be difficult.........it's down to the management to ensure we have the players and squad size to cope with it.

[Spire Power]

Rutland Rant, on 24 November 2010 - 03:03 PM, said:

The 2 home defeats have highlighted what the majority already knew - we have no strength in depth. The players coming off the bench are not'impact'players and as such are unlikely to change a game.Teams are now coming to Chesterfield having done their homework: Put 11 men behind the ball, stop us playing through midfield and therefore to the feet of the forwards. Teams know that we leak goals and that we have a philosophy of we can score 1 more than the opposition - well by having watched us they can now stop us scoring freely whilst we are still conceding.

We play our most effective football through midfield using Allott, Niven, Whittaker, Talbot and Morgan who then look to service Lester and Davies on the floor to feet. We have in the past 2 home games not been allowed to play like this and have resorted to playing it out wide hoping to get in a hopeful cross to forwards who don't want the ball in the air, but want it to feet.

What must players like Breckin and Page feel like when Robertson, who by trade is a left sided defender/midfielder is selected to play at centre back - surely they can read the writing on the wall.

Basically we need to instigate a plan B, because as teams have 'worked us out'I am afraid I cannot see nay sight of an alternative way of playing.

Boden has been a very good impact sub. As for opponents tactics its the teams who attack us who concern me more than those with 11 behind the ball

[spireitetoo]

lindave, on 24 November 2010 - 03:45 PM, said:

We were crap and there's no 3 ways about it.Forget the last 2 home games, we can bring 3 pts back from Bury, then let;s hope the lads can bounce back to winning ways against Torquay. We are 2nd in the league and deserve to be i the top two with the great performances we have put in so far this season.We need Griff.back in January ad lets hope we can hold onto Hunt for a bit longer. If we can get Lowery back to form in the New Year then the midfield will be beefed up enough to help us to the Championship.

i don't, he's being targeted more and more by teams, he gets forward and then gets caught out on the counter, he never even attempted to jump for their 1st goal, he's as tall as picken but he was deemed too small, yet hunt is seen as the best right back we've seen in ages, personnally i hope lowry is fit soon as him and drew over lapping and covering for each other will be great to see, also the extra height at the back post will be good.

[Spire Power]

spireitetoo, on 24 November 2010 - 05:10 PM, said:

i don't, he's being targeted more and more by teams, he gets forward and then gets caught out on the counter, he never even attempted to jump for their 1st goal, he's as tall as picken but he was deemed too small, yet hunt is seen as the best right back we've seen in ages, personnally i hope lowry is fit soon as him and drew over lapping and covering for each other will be great to see, also the extra height at the back post will be good.

yes a fit Lowry is the man for the right back spot