[clarevoyant.]

Sammy Spireite, on Oct 19 2009, 11:41 PM, said:

I took it that he was saying he sits in Compton so can judge the lino in front if him but not the one opposite so how can an official assessor judge the lino's performance on Comptton when he's pressumably sat in the wing stand?

Quite a good point actually

I think you are giving Dema a bit to much credit I took it to be that he will offer an opinion of the lino on the Compton because he is in his vicinity but as I stated he will very rarely be "in line" to have a perfect view.

The assessor sits in the Directors Box on the half way line and will very rarely comment on a lino's decisions regarding offsides because he is not in a position to do so ie not IN LINE. The main concerns for the assessor as regards the lino will be fitness, team work, assistance to the referee in giving offences within his designated area, clarity of signals, positioning, control of technical areas, management of players, any other duties requested by the ref in their pre match discussion, that'll do for now I'm fed up

[h again]

Sammy Spireite, on Oct 19 2009, 02:41 PM, said:

Two instances got me thinking, if a Ref or his assistant receives verbal abuse does it alter the way he sees 50/50 decisions without him knowing it?

Page had several talkings to and the Ref had warned him minutes ago about his challenges (to which Page was very verbal in his response to) and then he jumps in to their winger and admittedly wins the ball but the ref has no hesitation in giving a penalty.

Also, the lino in front of the town fans was getting some right stick (despite not making a bad decision by this point) and then we get a goal disallowed that according to the replay should have stood.

I was wondering if the abuse sticks somewhere in their heads and it ways their decisions when it comes to close calls? Not suggesting they let it affect them but it may well do without their knowledge.

Good point, before it got obscured by the "who saw what" debate. Personally I'd reckon that any official will strongly deny being influenced in that way, and believe it when he says it - but, human nature being what it is, common sense would suggest that abusive, argumentative players and yobbish fans will certainly have some effect, even if only at a sub-conscious level.
What the situation demands is a Manager with a degree in Psychology.
Sorry. I was being serious, but I couldn't help the last bit.

[clarevoyant.]

Dema Reborn, on Oct 20 2009, 02:33 PM, said:

Where do you get this abuse from,i am quite within my rights to say if i think he has got it wrong just like i am quite within my rights if he gets it right,Jack is a bu**er for for straying offside but sometimes he beats it,chu**fin hell no wonder you call yourself clarevoyant lol.....

I get "this abuse" from many of your posts on previous threads. It became apparent to me some while ago that you took delight in slagging off officials with a limited knowledge of the subject this statement being supported by the fact that you are willing to judge an offside decision when you are clearly not in a position to do so. But perhaps you may be beginning to see the light as you say above you may "Think" (guessing then) he has got it wrong.
People who slag others off when not in possession of the true facts tend to p**s me off, especially if they where asked to do the job themselves they would be clueless

[Sabreman]

clarevoyant., on Oct 20 2009, 05:08 PM, said:

that you are willing to judge an offside decision when you are clearly not in a position to do so.

I would wager every single football supporter who has attended a match is guilty of the above including you, so your holier than thou attitude is a bit out of place.
Ninety percent of fans at a game are not in a position to Judge an offside decision, it doesn't stop them moaning about it if it doesn't go their teams way tho does it.

[clarevoyant.]

Sabreman, on Oct 20 2009, 05:19 PM, said:

I would wager every single football supporter who has attended a match is guilty of the above including you, so your holier than thou attitude is a bit out of place.
Ninety percent of fans at a game are not in a position to Judge an offside decision, it doesn't stop them moaning about it if it doesn't go their teams way tho does it.

Quiet right, but dema does go on about officials alleged incompetence's and to me only wants to see the bad in them I refer to his bizarre posts at the beginning of this thread. As for being holier than thou you couldn't be further from the truth that's why the photo of the pr**k to left of these words is there.

[Sabreman]

clarevoyant., on Oct 20 2009, 05:29 PM, said:

Quiet right, but dema does go on about officials alleged incompetence's and to me only wants to see the bad in them I refer to his bizarre posts at the beginning of this thread. As for being holier than thou you couldn't be further from the truth that's why the photo of the pr**k to left of these words is there.

Fair enough, i don't agree with Demas first post but if that is what he or anyone else thinks/believes i have no problem with that.

[clarevoyant.]

Dema Reborn, on Oct 20 2009, 06:01 PM, said:

Stop thinking too high of yourself i don't want you to do anything whatsoever..

I do apologise for trying to defend people who can not defend themselves from your bizarre outpourings.

"I don't want you to do anything whatsoever" I hope this doesn't mean I can't go to the Tup for a pint

[Zeus]

This could work both ways in that refs may want to appease the abuse they receive and try to limit it by subconsciously rewarding the team abusing them.