[PositiveOmen]

1. Target man (Heading)
e.g. In the Chief mould, lurking at the back post to knock on in, or doing flick ons for Jack.

2. Target man (Holding up ball)
e.g. Someone who we can knock the ball to, and he has a chance of holding it up.

3. Tricky Player
e.g. Constantly running at the defence, turning and twisting to get a shot, a less talented Jack.

4. Poacher
e.g. In the Owen mould, can maybe not even be in the game, but when there's a lose ball or a rebound he's there to knock it in.




Out of those options, what type of striker do you think we need?

[Spired]

PositiveOmen, on Jul 14 2009, 12:18 PM, said:

1. Target man (Heading)
e.g. In the Chief mould, lurking at the back post to knock on in, or doing flick ons for Jack.

2. Target man (Holding up ball)
e.g. Someone who we can knock the ball to, and he has a chance of holding it up.

3. Tricky Player
e.g. Constantly running at the defence, turning and twisting to get a shot, a less talented Jack.

4. Poacher
e.g. In the Owen mould, can maybe not even be in the game, but when there's a lose ball or a rebound he's there to knock it in.




Out of those options, what type of striker do you think we need?

Number 2. With number 3 on the wing.

[Sin]

2 and 3

[Spireite-Karl]

If we can get the correct wide men in that deliver the right ball then number 1 would suffice to get us out of this league, esp if he really good at what he's best at!

Though ideally purely from a footballing/ spectator point of view I'd like to see a combination of 2 & 3 as Sin pointed out. I feel we really need someone that's going to be quite a bit faster than Jack so we can mix it a bit! Shame we couldn't afford Crouchy he'd give us the lot

The other two areas are as key as the strikers in my view, CM,RM and possibly LM depending on what type of striker is brought in! If it's number 1 then we need another winger.

[DIFH]

Spireite-Karl, on Jul 14 2009, 01:36 PM, said:

If we can get the correct wide men in that deliver the right ball then number 1 would suffice to get us out of this league, esp if he really good at what he's best at!

Though ideally purely from a footballing/ spectator point of view I'd like to see a combination of 2 & 3 as Sin pointed out. I feel we really need someone that's going to be quite a bit faster than Jack so we can mix it a bit! Shame we couldn't afford Crouchy he'd give us the lot

The other two areas are as key as the strikers in my view, CM,RM and possibly LM depending on what type of striker is brought in! If it's number 1 then we need another winger.

What is blatantly obvious up front is that we are easy to contain, We don't have that hard CF who puts himself about physically and we don't have the Ward option of pace whereby the CB's are turned. Jack and Gritton as a 2 are a defences dream unless they get the ball to feet whereby they can play to their strengths. This style negates crosses in the main because you haven't got that physical guy with height to target. In this league you have to have that guy up front.

[the original blue pill]

Think the main problem is we have'nt brought anyone in yet for this position,with Lester missing the first 2 matches of the season we are going to struggle big time.Unlees Sheridan act's fast we are as blunt as a stone.

[Beelzebub]

the original blue pill, on Jul 15 2009, 09:15 AM, said:

Think the main problem is we have'nt brought anyone in yet for this position,with Lester missing the first 2 matches of the season we are going to struggle big time.Unlees Sheridan act's fast we are as blunt as a stone.

JS has repeatedly said that he is looking to bring in a striker and a wide midfielder. You need to be a bit patient. It takes time to bring in the quality of player we are looking at. If we were prepared to settle for second best we could have signed dozens of players by now, I'd rather wait a while and get the right ones in.
I love your optimism 'we are going to struggle big time' - tommyrot. We have yet to play a game under the new manager and you are already coming out with prophesies of doom. Wait until we've actually played a couple of games before panicking.

[Mr.Spireite]

Beelzebub, on Jul 15 2009, 10:25 AM, said:

JS has repeatedly said that he is looking to bring in a striker and a wide midfielder. You need to be a bit patient. It takes time to bring in the quality of player we are looking at. If we were prepared to settle for second best we could have signed dozens of players by now, I'd rather wait a while and get the right ones in.
I love your optimism 'we are going to struggle big time' - tommyrot. We have yet to play a game under the new manager and you are already coming out with prophesies of doom. Wait until we've actually played a couple of games before panicking.

You don't get quality at this level.....

[the original blue pill]

Beelzebub, on Jul 15 2009, 10:25 AM, said:

JS has repeatedly said that he is looking to bring in a striker and a wide midfielder. You need to be a bit patient. It takes time to bring in the quality of player we are looking at. If we were prepared to settle for second best we could have signed dozens of players by now, I'd rather wait a while and get the right ones in.
I love your optimism 'we are going to struggle big time' - tommyrot. We have yet to play a game under the new manager and you are already coming out with prophesies of doom. Wait until we've actually played a couple of games before panicking.

Quality costs Money,did'nt JS say we have'nt got the money to throw around.

[Beelzebub]

Mr.Spireite, on Jul 15 2009, 10:54 AM, said:

You don't get quality at this level.....

Don't tell Jack that

[Mr.Spireite]

Jack has found his level, throughout his career he has done ok, never been a big scorer up untill the twilight of his career. So he has finally come good.

[Brimington Barry]

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1. Target man (Heading)
e.g. In the Chief mould, lurking at the back post to knock on in, or doing flick ons for Jack.

Will be expensive as plenty of clubs chasing same; could CFC afford, without scouring lower leagues?

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2. Target man (Holding up ball)
e.g. Someone who we can knock the ball to, and he has a chance of holding it up.

Is this role becoming redundant by comparison?

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3. Tricky Player
e.g. Constantly running at the defence, turning and twisting to get a shot, a less talented Jack

Preferred option, as can supply ammunition to existing strike force, but still has a price/wage tag. Spencer Weir-Daley? (You did say less talented )

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4. Poacher
e.g. In the Owen mould, can maybe not even be in the game, but when there's a lose ball or a rebound he's there to knock it in.

See my first reply; every club wants one and many wealthier clubs than Chesterfield FC

Baz

This post has been edited by Brimington Barry: 15 July 2009 - 11:58 AM

[spyright]

I'd go for option 3, with a bit of option 2 thrown in as well if we can find it. Somebody unpredictable who can run at defenders is always going to cause a bit of confusion/panic and this ought to open things up for Jack. We know he's not the strongest or quickest of players and he's no titan in the air but give him half a chance or a small opening and then we see what he can do (20 odd times per season so far ). Another forward who can stop the opposition from simply swarming around Jack is what we need in my opinion. Of course, we can't expect Jack to do everything so it also needs to be someone who can score themselves if the opposition do still try to close out Jack and that means a player with proven composure in front of goal.

Now all we have to do is find this player (and presumably at little or no cost). Should be easy then!

[DIFH]

spyright, on Jul 15 2009, 04:59 PM, said:

I'd go for option 3, with a bit of option 2 thrown in as well if we can find it. Somebody unpredictable who can run at defenders is always going to cause a bit of confusion/panic and this ought to open things up for Jack. We know he's not the strongest or quickest of players and he's no titan in the air but give him half a chance or a small opening and then we see what he can do (20 odd times per season so far ). Another forward who can stop the opposition from simply swarming around Jack is what we need in my opinion. Of course, we can't expect Jack to do everything so it also needs to be someone who can score themselves if the opposition do still try to close out Jack and that means a player with proven composure in front of goal.

Now all we have to do is find this player (and presumably at little or no cost). Should be easy then!

RICHARDS @ VALE maybe ?