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#21 User is online   rs1978 

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Posted 14 July 2009 - 07:49 AM

View PostRov1, on Jul 14 2009, 08:42 AM, said:

doesnt anyone remember what he said! 'i want to move to a bigger club'

Huddersfield - ok a bit bigger, but rarely played
Rotherham - HAHAHA

I've always thought of MH as a rather odious character, the ego of a Premiership player trapped in the body of a lower league player, if you like. I always remember Roy McFarland giving a speech at a Player of the Year ceremony and MH had so little respect he was texting all the way through it!

That said, he may give us something that we don't currently have (Darren Currie aside) - a bit of composure on the ball and the vision to pick a pass. Wouldn't be a brilliant signing in my opinion but would improve options within the squad. I would hope that we could do better, all things considered.

Sadly, the days are gone (if they ever existed) where the players love playing for the club and would never dream of moving! Does anyone seriously think we have a single player on the books who wouldn't 'want to move to a bigger club' and - arguably - if not, why not? At least MH was honest enough to admit it, although I think this was an overspill of his ego, rather than a wish to be up front and honest with everyone.
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Posted 14 July 2009 - 08:14 AM

View Postrs1978, on Jul 14 2009, 09:02 AM, said:

I've always thought of MH as a rather odious character, the ego of a Premiership player trapped in the body of a lower league player, if you like. I always remember Roy McFarland giving a speech at a Player of the Year ceremony and MH had so little respect he was texting all the way through it!

That said, he may give us something that we don't currently have (Darren Currie aside) - a bit of composure on the ball and the vision to pick a pass. Wouldn't be a brilliant signing in my opinion but would improve options within the squad. I would hope that we could do better, all things considered.

Sadly, the days are gone (if they ever existed) where the players love playing for the club and would never dream of moving! Does anyone seriously think we have a single player on the books who wouldn't 'want to move to a bigger club' and - arguably - if not, why not? At least MH was honest enough to admit it, although I think this was an overspill of his ego, rather than a wish to be up front and honest with everyone.

he isnt the player i would be wanting at the club,had as many indifferent games as he did good ones,surely there are better players out there
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Posted 14 July 2009 - 08:23 AM

View PostRov1, on Jul 14 2009, 08:42 AM, said:

doesnt anyone remember what he said! 'i want to move to a bigger club'

Huddersfield - ok a bit bigger, but rarely played
Rotherham - HAHAHA


Rotherham have played a couple of seasons in the Chapionship in recent seasons, something we can only dream of.

View Postrs1978, on Jul 14 2009, 09:02 AM, said:

I've always thought of MH as a rather odious character, the ego of a Premiership player trapped in the body of a lower league player, if you like. I always remember Roy McFarland giving a speech at a Player of the Year ceremony and MH had so little respect he was texting all the way through it!

That said, he may give us something that we don't currently have (Darren Currie aside) - a bit of composure on the ball and the vision to pick a pass. Wouldn't be a brilliant signing in my opinion but would improve options within the squad. I would hope that we could do better, all things considered.

Sadly, the days are gone (if they ever existed) where the players love playing for the club and would never dream of moving! Does anyone seriously think we have a single player on the books who wouldn't 'want to move to a bigger club' and - arguably - if not, why not? At least MH was honest enough to admit it, although I think this was an overspill of his ego, rather than a wish to be up front and honest with everyone.


WHy don't people realise that like in real life if someone offers you more money to do the same job you're going to move.
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Posted 14 July 2009 - 08:30 AM

View PostBeelzebub, on Jul 14 2009, 08:35 AM, said:

the midfield pairing of Niven and Hudson was perhaps the best we've had in the last decade - and it was in a higher division.


The only two players to have formed a decent partnership with Niven have been Allott and Hudson.

Of the two Allott controlled midfield best but Hudson was always capable of scoring a goal from inside the penalty area.

In my opinion he would improve the squad and as I'd put him ahead of Kerry & Harsley as far as team selection is concerned.

In fact, if JS is trying to move players out I'd have thought Harsley would be one of these along with Page (Port Vale??) and if this happened we'd need two midfielders in and, in such circumstances, Huddy would improve the squad.
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Posted 14 July 2009 - 09:00 AM

View PostMr.Spireite, on Jul 14 2009, 09:36 AM, said:

Rotherham have played a couple of seasons in the Chapionship in recent seasons, something we can only dream of.



WHy don't people realise that like in real life if someone offers you more money to do the same job you're going to move.

What we have to remember is.We were born and bred in Chesterfield and are Spireites through and through.Most of the players we are now signing have no tangible links to the Town and just follow the money with very few exceptions such as Blatherwick.



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Posted 14 July 2009 - 09:16 AM

View Postspireitenag, on Jul 14 2009, 10:13 AM, said:

What we have to remember is.We were born and bred in Chesterfield and are Spireites through and through.Most of the players we are now signing have no tangible links to the Town and just follow the money with very few exceptions such as Blatherwick.


I think you will find that clubs did take a look at Blatherwick but he would never have passed a medical. I do know that SHeffield Wednesday nearly signed him at one point.
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Posted 14 July 2009 - 09:30 AM

Back to Hudson.......

On a purely selfish level, part of me hopes he re-signs and recaptures some of his early town form.

The same form which earned him a permanent deal and got him the captains arm band week in week out.

The same form which prompted me to shell out over a ton for his signed match worn away shirt!
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Posted 14 July 2009 - 09:33 AM

View PostMDCCCLXVI, on Jul 13 2009, 07:50 PM, said:

Firstly, 'Deepthroat' informs me that a certain Mark Hudson has been offered a week's training with ourselves.

It's not clear if this is with a view to anything more long term, but apparently the former Saltergate favourite has hardly been inundated with offers since his release from Rotherham.

Speaking of training, i'm also informed that at least one Town player has expressed his approval of the new regime's methods.

It seems that sessions under the former management team were mundane and limited (which, when pointed out by a certain player, allegedly led to that player being dropped!), however word is that things are now far less of a chore despite the increased workload.

One other thing: i'm told that Peak FM are considering including match reports in their Saturday afternoon schedule for the forthcoming season. At the moment this has got no further than simply being discussed, but maybe the dulcet tones of a rotund friend of mine may once again be emanating from a radio near you in the not too distant future...


If MH does re sign for us then I believe he is showing some real BALLS - something he lacked in his previous period. Maybe the boy has matured into the man.
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Posted 14 July 2009 - 10:05 AM

View PostMDCCCLXVI, on Jul 13 2009, 07:50 PM, said:

Firstly, 'Deepthroat' informs me that a certain Mark Hudson has been offered a week's training with ourselves.

It's not clear if this is with a view to anything more long term, but apparently the former Saltergate favourite has hardly been inundated with offers since his release from Rotherham.

Speaking of training, i'm also informed that at least one Town player has expressed his approval of the new regime's methods.

It seems that sessions under the former management team were mundane and limited (which, when pointed out by a certain player, allegedly led to that player being dropped!), however word is that things are now far less of a chore despite the increased workload.

One other thing: i'm told that Peak FM are considering including match reports in their Saturday afternoon schedule for the forthcoming season. At the moment this has got no further than simply being discussed, but maybe the dulcet tones of a rotund friend of mine may once again be emanating from a radio near you in the not too distant future...


The offer tells you more about our current predicament than Hudson's I fear. Our most successful spell last season came when we had 3 midfield players on our books who are currently elsewhere (Talbot Montrose and Till). What Sheridan is facing is the midfield problem faced by (and to a large extent created by) the last 2 managers - that is the failure to build an effective midfield.

With limited options in terms of bringing in players and the loss of Montrose Sheridan has quite a job on his hands in the short term - one that may mean we have to wait 2 seasons for promotion in my opinion. He has to either recruit 3 quality consistent midfielders before the season starts or discover something in the squad that Richardson failed to last season.

His best hopes in the latter case are to find a squad formation that accommodates Currie's ability or to bring on one or more young players. Given the departure of the young wide players in the summer his options on new players are limited with his best hope being Gray.

His other priority will be to fill other positions effectively (particualrly the full back positions) so that he is able to concentrate his team building solely on midfield. Of course he also has a problem up front hanging over from last season but if he want to play football he needs to build his mdfield rsather than by-pass it as has too often happened in the last couple of seasons
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Posted 14 July 2009 - 01:55 PM

View Posttrue blue, on Jul 13 2009, 08:59 PM, said:

yes he is a good player, but will some fans forgive him? will he forgive the fans?


If his performances are good enough then he should be forgiven. If he wants to come here for the easiest, laziest option then he will probably, rightfully, get more stick.
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Posted 14 July 2009 - 02:05 PM

View PostBlueprint, on Jul 14 2009, 03:08 PM, said:

If his performances are good enough then he should be forgiven. If he wants to come here for the easiest, laziest option then he will probably, rightfully, get more stick.



No No No No NO, I never want him near this club again. lazy player who minces around the pitch doing very little. Too lightweight AVOID or another season in league two is on the cards.
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Posted 14 July 2009 - 02:10 PM

View PostTonycfc, on Jul 14 2009, 03:18 PM, said:

No No No No NO, I never want him near this club again. lazy player who minces around the pitch doing very little. Too lightweight AVOID or another season in league two is on the cards.


If he ends up here it's got to be a 12 month contract only, no 2yr deals. Maybe he has come to realise that his options are very limited now.
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Posted 14 July 2009 - 02:12 PM

View PostDave In Footie Heaven, on Jul 14 2009, 03:23 PM, said:

If he ends up here it's got to be a 12 month contract only, no 2yr deals. Maybe he has come to realise that his options are very limited now.

if he comes here or not and the length of any contract are up to JS. There's no point in making stipulations like the above, what will be will be.
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Posted 14 July 2009 - 02:16 PM

View PostTonycfc, on Jul 14 2009, 03:18 PM, said:

No No No No NO, I never want him near this club again. lazy player who minces around the pitch doing very little. Too lightweight AVOID or another season in league two is on the cards.


Given our lack of activity on the transfer front in general, and, more specifically, the report of 'Stroller' Hudson being invited to train with us, I fear another season in league two is very much on the cards.

Where's the feel good factor gone?
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Posted 14 July 2009 - 02:18 PM

View PostTonycfc, on Jul 14 2009, 03:18 PM, said:

No No No No NO, I never want him near this club again. lazy player who minces around the pitch doing very little. Too lightweight AVOID or another season in league two is on the cards.


totally agree!

and after some of his gestures and antics after scoring and assist`s for rotherscum, i don`t care if he never finds a club again.
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Posted 14 July 2009 - 02:31 PM

I do doubt that unless he gets a very good offer he'd want to come back here though. He's probably just training with us as it's easiest for him to keep him fit while he finds a new club.

If he was to come back here Gritton and Gregor would be relieved, neither of them two would be the number one boo boy for the new season.
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Posted 14 July 2009 - 03:22 PM

Two things strike me regarding Hudson: the fact that he's being considered suggests Sheridan's scope is worryingly limited, and if he has something to offer why have Rotherham - a club at exactly the same level and with the same aspirations as ourselves - allowed him to leave?
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Posted 14 July 2009 - 03:55 PM

View PostMDCCCLXVI, on Jul 14 2009, 04:35 PM, said:

Two things strike me regarding Hudson: the fact that he's being considered suggests Sheridan's scope is worryingly limited, and if he has something to offer why have Rotherham - a club at exactly the same level and with the same aspirations as ourselves - allowed him to leave?



I think he refused their offer Chris.
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Posted 14 July 2009 - 05:13 PM

Hudson was very inconsistant when he was here....... he was exceptional when the camaras were rolling!!!
His best games were while he was on loan at the start of his time at Saltergate.

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Posted 14 July 2009 - 05:34 PM

View PostMDCCCLXVI, on Jul 14 2009, 04:35 PM, said:

Two things strike me regarding Hudson: the fact that he's being considered suggests Sheridan's scope is worryingly limited, and if he has something to offer why have Rotherham - a club at exactly the same level and with the same aspirations as ourselves - allowed him to leave?

He still lives in town hence the connection still and his mega money move to Bradford all collapsed when most of their 1st team had to take massive paycuts and he thought that was better than what Rotherham had offered and that was very substantial and he wouldnt be shopping at Netto.
On the midf front Sheridan/Thompson have some good players in mind are all attached to clubs at the mo and they are seeing if they are going to be involved next season.
Hudson played very well last season for the Millers but he thought he was big and better than the club hence him sorting himself a so called deal ??
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