[sophocles]

Ernie Ernie Ernie, on Jul 13 2009, 09:03 PM, said:

What constitutes a proper chance Soph?

In my opinion, at least 3 seasons without the 'fans' supporting the opposition by booing their own team.

[fishini]

sophocles, on Jul 13 2009, 09:06 PM, said:

In my opinion, at least 3 seasons without the 'fans' supporting the opposition by booing their own team.

If the Hubbard had had his way (cheers DA) and Rico had stayed for another season where IYO would we have ended up the end of the coming season? Do you agre that last season we witnessed some of the poorest football we have seen for years?

[sophocles]

fishini, on Jul 13 2009, 09:09 PM, said:

If the Hubbard had had his way (cheers DA) and Rico had stayed for another season where IYO would we have ended up the end of the coming season? Do you agre that last season we witnessed some of the poorest football we have seen for years?

Yes I agree, but I think we also witnessed some of the BEST football seen for years, highlighting the big flaw in Rico's management - INCONSISTENCY. I happen to believe that a bit of patience on the part of the fans would have seen an improvement this next season. However, that's water under the bridge now, and can never be proved one way or the other, so my personal reaction is to get 100% behind the current manager and squad as soon as the action starts.

[fishini]

sophocles, on Jul 13 2009, 09:15 PM, said:

Yes I agree, but I think we also witnessed some of the BEST football seen for years, highlighting the big flaw in Rico's management - INCONSISTENCY. I happen to believe that a bit of patience on the part of the fans would have seen an improvement this next season. However, that's water under the bridge now, and can never be proved one way or the other, so my personal reaction is to get 100% behind the current manager and squad as soon as the action starts.

IU have not said a single word about the new manager I will no doubt have something to say one way or the other when the season is up and running. I personally don't think that GR is the kind of player we need if we have any ambitions of promotion but he isn't the only player not good enough. You think we may have had a better season this coming season but I think you said that the season before last and it was a far worse season. Was it worth the risk keeping Rico. without the pionts dedustions we would been even further down the table

[sophocles]

fishini, on Jul 13 2009, 09:35 PM, said:

IU have not said a single word about the new manager I will no doubt have something to say one way or the other when the season is up and running. I personally don't think that GR is the kind of player we need if we have any ambitions of promotion but he isn't the only player not good enough. You think we may have had a better season this coming season but I think you said that the season before last and it was a far worse season. Was it worth the risk keeping Rico. without the pionts dedustions we would been even further down the table

Most of that is pointless speculation because the bloke has gone now; I don't agree at all that it was a 'far worse season', in fact I think it was better and would have resulted in at least the play-offs if we hadn't had injuries and suspensions keeping out key players such as Lester and Downes at crucial times.
No, it was not, in the end, worth keeping Rico because an element of our so - called 'fans' had created a poisonous atmosphere which made it impossible for him to do his job. I'm just hoping that Sheridan is given a fairer opportunity to succeed.

[Ernie Ernie Ernie]

sophocles, on Jul 13 2009, 09:06 PM, said:

In my opinion, at least 3 seasons without the 'fans' supporting the opposition by booing their own team.

Not sure you would get that at many clubs

[Wooden Spoon]

sophocles, on Jul 13 2009, 09:01 PM, said:

Yes they were wrong, he didn't do a bad job, and should have been given a proper chance, just as Sheriden should be given a proper chance- I just hope he will be.

Nor did he pull up any trees.

[DIFH]

death, on Jul 14 2009, 08:32 AM, said:

Nor did he pull up any trees.

He could remedy that view by going down to Dema and removing those trees that are an issue at the moment.

[DIFH]

fishini, on Jul 13 2009, 09:35 PM, said:

IU have not said a single word about the new manager I will no doubt have something to say one way or the other when the season is up and running. I personally don't think GR is the type of player we need if we have any ambitions of promotion but he isn't the only player not good enough. You think we may have had a better season this coming season but I think you said that the season before last and it was a far worse season. Was it worth the risk keeping Rico. without the pionts dedustions we would been even further down the table

For goodness sake Fish give the guy a chance.

[Spired]

sophocles, on Jul 13 2009, 09:15 PM, said:

Yes I agree, but I think we also witnessed some of the BEST football seen for years, highlighting the big flaw in Rico's management - INCONSISTENCY. I happen to believe that a bit of patience on the part of the fans would have seen an improvement this next season. However, that's water under the bridge now, and can never be proved one way or the other, so my personal reaction is to get 100% behind the current manager and squad as soon as the action starts.

Get a grip

Patience? How about the best part of a decade with him being in a managerial position?

He is one of the worst managers i've seen at town if not the worst. The football was awful most of the time. Agree to get behind Sheridan though.

good riddence to Rico.

This post has been edited by Spired: 14 July 2009 - 09:55 AM

[johnd51]

The main problem for Rico was that in his first full season Downesy had a nightmare in between 2 seasons when he was outstanding. He and Barry's mistakes cost us a minimum of 20 points. There were many excellent team displays that year as those who were at Shrewsbury, Peterborough, MK and Wrexham will remember. As a result of defensive inadequacies we brought in Page and others on big money and we were on a slippery slope which we will find it hard to climb back up. There are few hopeful signs as yet despite the changes at top level.
How people can continue to press the claims of players who have proved to be inadequate, just because we have a new manager, is beyond me. We need better players, end of.

[h again]

MDCCCLXVI, on Jul 11 2009, 07:50 PM, said:

Exactly where've i claimed Sheridan isn't the man for the job?

All i've done is state that he did reasonably well with Oldham, he then left under a cloud, and reports from people i trust suggest he's a volatile character.

Then i simply pointed out that for all the hype we've only signed one player.

By the way 'H', i must've missed your "opinion backed up with a bit of reasoning"...

You haven't, you're more devious than that - but if you take someone to task for saying they think he's the right man for the job it rather begs the question of why you think he isn't.
Can we take it that in spite of your post you think the board have made the right decision?

[h again]

johnd51, on Jul 14 2009, 07:00 PM, said:

The main problem for Rico was that in his first full season Downesy had a nightmare in between 2 seasons when he was outstanding. He and Barry's mistakes cost us a minimum of 20 points. There were many excellent team displays that year as those who were at Shrewsbury, Peterborough, MK and Wrexham will remember. As a result of defensive inadequacies we brought in Page and others on big money and we were on a slippery slope which we will find it hard to climb back up. There are few hopeful signs as yet despite the changes at top level.
How people can continue to press the claims of players who have proved to be inadequate, just because we have a new manager, is beyond me. We need better players, end of.

You hit the nail on the head regarding the problems Rico had with the defence. They should have been sorted out by the arrival of Page - they weren't. It took Danny Hall to steady the ship, but too late for Rico. Given a central defender of Breckin's quality at the centre of a solid defence the rest of the team should just about be good enough on last season's form - if Montrose had stayed. Now we need another top-quality midfielder.