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#41 User is offline   Bonnyman 

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Posted 09 July 2009 - 01:45 PM

View Postspyright, on Jul 9 2009, 01:34 PM, said:

'Bonnyman', thank God I'm not the only one who's fed up with Fishy's constant repetitive negative posting! JS has only been here a few weeks and already he's being written off by the great cod-expert! It baffles me how anyone can declare 'the end result will be the same' when the team hasn't played a single game yet under the new manager and there are almost certainly some more signings to come in the next few weeks. JS may be rubbish or he may be great (or any point in between!); I'm happy to give him my support for now and to hope for the best, at least until we've got some results on the board and some evidence on which to judge him. I just don't see the point in writing him off before he's even started!

only an idiot would critisice a manager who has not been in charge for 1 competitive game,remember richardson knew every players ability prior to becoming manager a massive difference,sheridan will sort the wheat from the chaff but he needs to see that in friendlies
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Posted 09 July 2009 - 03:46 PM

View Postbonnyman, on Jul 9 2009, 02:58 PM, said:

only an idiot would critisice a manager who has not been in charge for 1 competitive game,remember richardson knew every players ability prior to becoming manager a massive difference,sheridan will sort the wheat from the chaff but he needs to see that in friendlies


Got it in one, mate! :lol:

Fortunately, most of us realise that JS needs some time and matches to sort things out. My heart really wants us to leave Saltergate on the back of promotion but my head says it may take more than one season for JS to build us a side that can not only go up but stay up. Still, I'm choosing to be optimistic for now.
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Posted 11 July 2009 - 09:50 AM

Lots of people wrote Rico off before he had been in charge for one game, why can't we write JS off?
The point is the squad, on the basis of their performances last season, is not good enough and don't give me all that nonsense about the new manager will get them playing better. Some might get more of an opportunity but others just do not have the strength, pace or athleticism to do the job. We need to bring in more players - primarily a central midfielder - but also a wide attacker and another striker. Obviously as a new manager of any organisation, JS has to give the current squad a chance but he will already know the weaknesses, lack of pace and height being two of them. Despite DA's investment he will no doubt be restricted by the wage bill but new faces are a must.

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Posted 11 July 2009 - 09:59 AM

View Postjohnd51, on Jul 11 2009, 11:03 AM, said:

Lots of people wrote Rico off before he had been in charge for one game, why can't we write JS off?
The point is the squad, on the basis of their performances last season, is not good enough and don't give me all that nonsense about the new manager will get them playing better. Some might get more of an opportunity but others just do not have the strength, pace or athleticism to do the job. We need to bring in more players - primarily a central midfielder - but also a wide attacker and another striker. Obviously as a new manager of any organisation, JS has to give the current squad a chance but he will already know the weaknesses, lack of pace and height being two of them. Despite DA's investment he will no doubt be restricted by the wage bill but new faces are a must.



If you are restricted by the wage bill bearing in mind length of contracts already agreed, players refusing to go out on loan and keeping within the league 'capping system' how do you propose that could be achieved.
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Posted 11 July 2009 - 11:05 AM

View PostDave In Footie Heaven, on Jul 11 2009, 11:12 AM, said:

If you are restricted by the wage bill bearing in mind length of contracts already agreed, players refusing to go out on loan and keeping within the league 'capping system' how do you propose that could be achieved.


Have a baord at the side of the pitch advertising DA's casino and getting him to pay a million to have it there. Teh wage cap means nothing if someone wants to put the money in
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Posted 11 July 2009 - 11:43 AM

View PostSabreman, on Jul 7 2009, 06:52 PM, said:

good post i certainly see where your coming from, my feeling is sheridan wanted to see the players first hand in training before he makes his mind up on further strengthening the squad.
By his own admission he said to be looking at bringing a couple of players in, breks being one and a striker touted as being the other, who that is time will tell but we know the rumours seem to point to Burton.
Now he's had hands on with the squad for a week or so which obviously means he may already see where we need more strength and depth, i feel he may be realizing every training session he may have to bring a few more faces in.
Wingers is an obvious one as by all accounts passing attacking football is what we can expect, i also feel with the right manager and imo that is sheridan we have the makings of a formidable squad which just needs some tinkering.
So in conclusion i have every faith in sheridan and wright to bring the right players in and give us good quality football, if we can get a better home record next season we won't be far off.

What i will say about sheridan is he stated it was a clean sheet for all the players to show him the ability and passion they possess to play for our beloved club.
This he seems to be doing as he's not jumping in with both feet and signing all and sundry, if he feels we need strengthening in certain areas i know he'll bring the right players in.Us as supporters cannot ask for more than that at this stage, once he gets the team playing as he wants with the players he wants i'm sure we will all be happy spireites.
Until then i'm happy with how things are going and i for one can't wait for the new season to kick off



Why?

Based on what?

And weren't you saying exactly the same things about Richardson?
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Posted 11 July 2009 - 12:35 PM

View PostErnie Ernie Ernie, on Jul 11 2009, 12:18 PM, said:

Have a baord at the side of the pitch advertising DA's casino and getting him to pay a million to have it there. Teh wage cap means nothing if someone wants to put the money in



Yeh all well and good, but does anyone want to put the money in now - I doubt it so we'll just have to soldier on a bit more.
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Posted 11 July 2009 - 04:36 PM

View PostDave In Footie Heaven, on Jul 11 2009, 01:48 PM, said:

but does anyone want to put the money in now


Well someone is putting some money in judging by the new recruits so far (Sheridan, Wright, Crossley & Breckin).
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Posted 11 July 2009 - 05:23 PM

View PostMP-Spire, on Jul 11 2009, 05:49 PM, said:

Well someone is putting some money in judging by the new recruits so far (Sheridan, Wright, Crossley & Breckin).



That'll be us then MP with the ST money plus the fact that we realeased RICO SELLARS WINTER. I would say we are at the status quo at the moment, or there abouts.
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Posted 11 July 2009 - 05:23 PM

View PostMDCCCLXVI, on Jul 11 2009, 12:56 PM, said:

Why?

Based on what?

And weren't you saying exactly the same things about Richardson?


I'll agree that an opinion not backed up with a bit of reasoning isn't worth much, but if you want to contest it you really ought to explain why you think Sheridan isn't the man for the job.
Otherwise your own opinion is worth exactly nothing and the whole thing reverts to an "I think he's brill - oh no he isn't" total bore.
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Posted 11 July 2009 - 05:33 PM

View PostDave In Footie Heaven, on Jul 11 2009, 06:36 PM, said:

That'll be us then MP with the ST money plus the fact that we realeased RICO SELLARS WINTER. I would say we are at the status quo at the moment, or there abouts.


Dave,

Tell me, I don't suppose you think the £2M is for the funding gap, do you?

BTW, I'd guess Sheridan's salary is equal to the combined salaries of LR, SS & JW.
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Posted 11 July 2009 - 06:23 PM

View PostMP-Spire, on Jul 11 2009, 06:46 PM, said:

Dave,

Tell me, I don't suppose you think the £2M is for the funding gap, do you?

BTW, I'd guess Sheridan's salary is equal to the combined salaries of LR, SS & JW.



How can I be sure, I've no access to that info. Do you have the info.
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Posted 11 July 2009 - 06:32 PM

View PostDave In Footie Heaven, on Jul 11 2009, 07:36 PM, said:

How can I be sure, I've no access to that info. Do you have the info.



No I don't, can't you have an educated guess?
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Posted 11 July 2009 - 06:37 PM

View Posth again, on Jul 11 2009, 06:36 PM, said:

I'll agree that an opinion not backed up with a bit of reasoning isn't worth much, but if you want to contest it you really ought to explain why you think Sheridan isn't the man for the job.
Otherwise your own opinion is worth exactly nothing and the whole thing reverts to an "I think he's brill - oh no he isn't" total bore.


Exactly where've i claimed Sheridan isn't the man for the job?

All i've done is state that he did reasonably well with Oldham, he then left under a cloud, and reports from people i trust suggest he's a volatile character.

Then i simply pointed out that for all the hype we've only signed one player.

By the way 'H', i must've missed your "opinion backed up with a bit of reasoning"...
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Posted 13 July 2009 - 07:17 PM

View Postdeath, on Jul 9 2009, 08:21 AM, said:

Not play Niven on the right wing?

Use Niven harsley and kerry as a 3, with currie in front of them to supply the ammo?

Use Lowry as a RB?

Not confuse things with ultra complicated tactical changes following a sub?

with a midfield like that we would be lucky to win chesterfield sunday league......lol
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Posted 13 July 2009 - 07:29 PM

View PostMDCCCLXVI, on Jul 11 2009, 12:56 PM, said:

Why?

Based on what?

And weren't you saying exactly the same things about Richardson?


Based on his illogical dislike of Rico, and refusal to give him a chance. As I said when the moronic mob was turning on Richardson, it won't take them long to turn on the new manager. I have to confess though that the speed with which our resident whingers have emerged has taken me by surprise - you'd think they would give the new guy ONE game before starting wouldn't you?

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Posted 13 July 2009 - 07:40 PM

View Postsophocles, on Jul 13 2009, 08:42 PM, said:

Based on his illogical dislike of Rico, and refusal to give him a chance. As I said when the moronic mob was turning on Richardson, it won't take them long to turn on the new manager. I have to confess though that the speed with which our resident whingers have emerged has taken me by surprise - you'd think they would give the new guy ONE game before starting wouldn't you?

Were anyone wrong where Rico was concerned? Did the RTB's blind optimism prove correct? Or was he a poor manager?
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Posted 13 July 2009 - 07:48 PM

View Postfishini, on Jul 13 2009, 08:53 PM, said:

Were anyone wrong where Rico was concerned? Did the RTB's blind optimism prove correct? Or was he a poor manager?


Yes they were wrong, he didn't do a bad job, and should have been given a proper chance, just as Sheriden should be given a proper chance- I just hope he will be.
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Posted 13 July 2009 - 07:50 PM

View Postsophocles, on Jul 13 2009, 09:01 PM, said:

Yes they were wrong, he didn't do a bad job, and should have been given a proper chance, just as Sheriden should be given a proper chance- I just hope he will be.


What constitutes a proper chance Soph?
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Posted 13 July 2009 - 07:52 PM

View Postsophocles, on Jul 13 2009, 09:01 PM, said:

Yes they were wrong, he didn't do a bad job, and should have been given a proper chance, just as Sheriden should be given a proper chance- I just hope he will be.

8 years at the club and 2 years in charge this is not long enough then? What would have been long enough. Relegation, 8 points off play offs 1st season and lowest position in league for years this wasn't a bad job then?
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