[Bonnyman]

i cant abide richardson and self imposed an exile that has seen me visit the once this season after going home and away for 80% of all the fixtures last season,but on saturday i will be back,i have just watched jamie ward on virgin media and regardless of what i believe i aint missing quality like that again,thats what i pay to see players at my club that excite me,it makes a mockery of saying we need a big man upfront when we have players like ward who have got electrifying pace and play the ball on the deck,if the board dont offer him a proper deal we wont to pack up ,he is worth every penny of a million pounds plus,infact i believe a million and a half,if someone wants too pay that well we have to sell but dont get rid for 500,000 like we did with folan,well done jamie you are now getting towards reaching your potential

[erniemossity]

Couldn't agree more. Ward was absolutely outstanding on Wednesday. Covered every blade of glass, rans his nads off all night, and was a real handful for their defence. Quality throughout. We've all seen glimpses of this, but for the last month or so he's been showing it for 90 minutes. The board nned to get him signed whatever the cost - show some foresight !!!

[CFC_blue]

but if you were ward and you had a choice of higher league football would you take it?

lets hope wardy dosent take it and stays

[Webster]

Alex Green, on Oct 24 2008, 01:48 PM, said:

if Rotherham can get 1.8 for Hoskins then im sure we can get the same for Ward at least. Top half Championship or mid table prem at least. Though id prefer him to stay here and renew his contract.

I don't think Rotherham got anywhere near 1.8m for Hoskins the price stated at the time was 1.2 mill and that included Williamson thrown in as well

[Sherman]

to hell and back, on Oct 24 2008, 01:55 PM, said:

but if you were ward and you had a choice of higher league football would you take it?

lets hope wardy dosent take it and stays

He will go in the January window, no question of it.

The issue is, will he put pen to paper on a new contract beforehand, in the same way that Folan did, so that we get a decent wedge for him when he does leave.

[Rob's Page]

bonnyman, on Oct 24 2008, 01:43 PM, said:

i cant abide richardson and self imposed an exile that has seen me visit the once this season after going home and away for 80% of all the fixtures last season,but on saturday i will be back,i have just watched jamie ward on virgin media and regardless of what i believe i aint missing quality like that again,thats what i pay to see players at my club that excite me,it makes a mockery of saying we need a big man upfront when we have players like ward who have got electrifying pace and play the ball on the deck,if the board dont offer him a proper deal we wont to pack up ,he is worth every penny of a million pounds plus,infact i believe a million and a half,if someone wants too pay that well we have to sell but dont get rid for 500,000 like we did with folan,well done jamie you are now getting towards reaching your potential

I totally agree. Wardy is brilliant and was onfire wednesday night.I, too, would love him to sign another contract with us...But what if he won't? What if Town offered him the best contract they could but he turned it down,saying-Look, I like this club,I'm really grateful for the offer of a new contract and for what you've done for me in the past, but there's been bigger clubs looking at me and I'd like to play at the highest level possible! What would you want the club to do? keep him until the end of the season knowing that,being only 22years old we'd get something for him (though I imagine it would be very little) or take the highest offer, even at say,100,000? As I said on here a couple of weeks ago, we could end up with a Peter Leven scenario...But with Wardy, we'd stand to lose alot more!

[CFC_blue]

Sherman, on Oct 24 2008, 02:17 PM, said:

He will go in the January window, no question of it.

The issue is, will he put pen to paper on a new contract beforehand, in the same way that Folan did, so that we get a decent wedge for him when he does leave.

we will get something even if he dosent sign because he us under 24. i think that he will sign a new contract but lets hope the club accept no less than 1m for him

[Bonnyman]

to hell and back, on Oct 24 2008, 02:19 PM, said:

we will get something even if he dosent sign because he us under 24. i think that he will sign a new contract but lets hope the club accept no less than 1m for him

we got rid of kovacs and folan for peanuts ,the boards track record is dire

[TB.CFC]

Fair play for coming back. Hope many more follow for saturday. Need some decent support at home now, its been crap vocally and im numbers this season, thought its understandable i suppose. Hope our fans get behind the side on saturday, after all this is about closest thing we get to a local derby this season.

[Sammy Spireite]

Rob's Page, on Oct 24 2008, 02:17 PM, said:

I totally agree. Wardy is brilliant and was onfire wednesday night.I, too, would love him to sign another contract with us...But what if he won't? What if Town offered him the best contract they could but he turned it down,saying-Look, I like this club,I'm really grateful for the offer of a new contract and for what you've done for me in the past, but there's been bigger clubs looking at me and I'd like to play at the highest level possible! What would you want the club to do? keep him until the end of the season knowing that,being only 22years old we'd get something for him (though I imagine it would be very little) or take the highest offer, even at say,100,000? As I said on here a couple of weeks ago, we could end up with a Peter Leven scenario...But with Wardy, we'd stand to lose alot more!

I totally agree,

The best we could offer him would be £3k a week for 3 years. Why would he sign that now and raise his price for the january window when he could command probably double that at a mid-table championship club?

Its not the same scenario as Folan cos he was rescued from the last chance saloon by the club whereas Ward had clubs queing up to sign him before we did.

I sincereley hope he does sign a new del and stays here for the rest of his career but it ain't gonna happen, the best we could hope for is that he scores 30 goals this season and has a host of clubs chasin him come May and we get a favourable tribunal committee!!

Once Torquay's wedge is taken out can't see us ending up with more than £250k absolute max.

bonnyman, on Oct 24 2008, 02:25 PM, said:

we got rid of kovacs and folan for peanuts ,the boards track record is dire

Surely a player is only worth as much as someone is willing to pay for them?

This post has been edited by Sammy Spireite: 24 October 2008 - 01:28 PM

[BlueRover52]

Thought Kovacs turned down our contract offer? We got the 17k because of his age. Is Wards contract up in January or end of season? Eitherway If he hasn't negotiated an extension before January then we know his future doesn't lie with us.

[Maddog Tannen]

Yeah Peterborough are allegedly touting Mackail-Smith for around the 2 million mark and in my book Ward is a better player than him so is a tricky one to put a price on him. Having said that I really hope the lad stays and plays for us in League One asap!!!

[Frank Thacker]

bonnyman, on Oct 24 2008, 02:25 PM, said:

we got rid of kovacs and folan for peanuts ,the boards track record is dire

Almost everyone rated Folan as ineffective in all but his last half-season here. 500k for him, when we might have freed him the previous summer without anyone batting an eyelid, was good business.

[CFC_blue]

Saltergate Stu, on Oct 24 2008, 06:34 PM, said:

Almost everyone rated Folan as ineffective in all but his last half-season here. 500k for him, when we might have freed him the previous summer without anyone batting an eyelid, was good business.

agree, but folans no premiership player so wpould expect him to be soon moving on.

[Bankrobber]

Saltergate Stu, on Oct 24 2008, 06:34 PM, said:

Almost everyone rated Folan as ineffective in all but his last half-season here. 500k for him, when we might have freed him the previous summer without anyone batting an eyelid, was good business.

...and don't forget he didn't have to sign that new contract that was offered to him.

[Blueprint]

BlueRover52, on Oct 24 2008, 03:55 PM, said:

Thought Kovacs turned down our contract offer? We got the 17k because of his age. Is Wards contract up in January or end of season? Eitherway If he hasn't negotiated an extension before January then we know his future doesn't lie with us.

The fee of kovacs was more to do with what the tribunal came up with which it has to be said was a pathetic sum.

If Jamie goes at the end of the season for free and we get compensation it'll probably be some pathetic amount as well, it will be nowhere near the amount we'd get if we sold him beforehand, but i'd rather him stay here.

Suppose it depends on factors like where we'll be playing next season, and how he's treated by the fans between now and then, his performance will surely turn a few heads among people who still weren't convinced he's worth a regular place on the teamsheet. It could also depend on who the manager is for the rest of the season, ward has faith in rico, but will he get along with a new manager the same and will the new manager play him as often as rico does.

[Bonnyman]

Saltergate Stu, on Oct 24 2008, 06:34 PM, said:

Almost everyone rated Folan as ineffective in all but his last half-season here. 500k for him, when we might have freed him the previous summer without anyone batting an eyelid, was good business.

no it wasnt good business,we were selling to a premier league club thus we should have tried to screw them for every penny we could get,500k wasnt enough especially with us having to give money to leeds,how many prem clubs buy 350k players

[CFC_blue]

bonnyman, on Oct 24 2008, 07:37 PM, said:

no it wasnt good business,we were selling to a premier league club thus we should have tried to screw them for every penny we could get,500k wasnt enough especially with us having to give money to leeds,how many prem clubs buy 350k players

but remember that 500k ( well 100,000k of it )bought us the man that we are currently discussing. JAMIE WARD!!!