[Walton Spireite]

Last couple of games getting it wrong last week we lost the momentum and yesterday I do not understand why he brought Edwards on and not tog well. Has he got something against tog well or what.

[Spire-Heights]

Walton Spireite, on 06 October 2013 - 11:00 AM, said:

Last couple of games getting it wrong last week we lost the momentum and yesterday I do not understand why he brought Edwards on and not tog well. Has he got something against tog well or what.

If he had something against Togwell, and he didn't form part of Cooks plans for this season, he would have transfer listed him IMO.

He will need Togwell this season at times,and that will be pretty soon. On that note, did Morsy get his 5th booking yesterday?

This post has been edited by Spire-Heights: 06 October 2013 - 11:05 AM

[LuSiVe]

No booking for any of ours yesterday ... My money's on booking for Morsy on Tuesday though

[BlueRover52]

Walton Spireite, on 06 October 2013 - 11:00 AM, said:

Last couple of games getting it wrong last week we lost the momentum and yesterday I do not understand why he brought Edwards on and not tog well. Has he got something against tog well or what.

PC's decision to put young Edwards on was a surprise to most but he is the manager.A battling Togwell would have certainly helped midfield protect a floundering back four.

[dim view]

Walton Spireite, on 06 October 2013 - 11:00 AM, said:

Last couple of games getting it wrong last week we lost the momentum and yesterday I do not understand why he brought Edwards on and not tog well. Has he got something against tog well or what.

because there was no battle to be won in midfield. It was a penalty area aerial bombardment. Hird and Cooper would have overcome the problem by defending much higher up the pitch.

[Spire-Heights]

BlueRover52, on 06 October 2013 - 12:10 PM, said:

PC's decision to put young Edwards on was a surprise to most but he is the manager.A battling Togwell would have certainly helped midfield protect a floundering back four.

Cook panicked IMO. He's a young manager and he will only improve day by day, match by match. A much more experienced Cook would not have gone defensive I'm sure. We're lucky to have him, and he will bring success to this club. Let's face it, he's not done a bad job so far, as he ?

This post has been edited by Spire-Heights: 06 October 2013 - 12:14 PM

[chesterblue]

Spire-Heights, on 06 October 2013 - 12:12 PM, said:

Cook panicked IMO. He's a young manager and he will only improve day by day, match by match. A much more experienced Cook would not have gone defensive I'm sure. We're lucky to have him, and he will bring success to this club. Let's face it, he's not done a bad job so far, as he ?

Yes, for the first time I agree Cook did panic and that sent the wrong signal out because as bad as the 2nd half was it was even worse after putting an extra defender on...total confusion at the back, we were all over the place. However, he's not made too many mistakes and hopefully he'll learn from it. A guy behind the goal summed it up for me by waving his white hankie at the final whistle

[Wooden Spoon]

dim view, on 06 October 2013 - 12:10 PM, said:

because there was no battle to be won in midfield. It was a penalty area aerial bombardment. Hird and Cooper would have overcome the problem by defending much higher up the pitch.

does Evo have the pace to play higher up the pitch

[plannerj]

dim view, on 06 October 2013 - 12:10 PM, said:

because there was no battle to be won in midfield. It was a penalty area aerial bombardment. Hird and Cooper would have overcome the problem by defending much higher up the pitch.

True that there was no midfield battle to be won. We surrendered it, allowing their midfield to plant balls from open play and set pieces over our floundering defence into the penalty area. Tog we'll would have strengthened the midfield not that Edwards did so much wrong IMHO.

[plannerj]

dim view, on 06 October 2013 - 12:10 PM, said:

because there was no battle to be won in midfield. It was a penalty area aerial bombardment. Hird and Cooper would have overcome the problem by defending much higher up the pitch.

True that there was no midfield battle to be won. We surrendered it, allowing their midfield to plant balls from open play and set pieces over our floundering defence into the penalty area. Togwell would have strengthened the midfield, not that Edwards did so much wrong IMHO.

This post has been edited by plannerj: 06 October 2013 - 06:34 PM

[jonnythespireite]

Its a fair point. Generally he's got if right so far this season. Changed it early at Bury and we went on to win comfortably. Going more direct against Southend with Gnando was a great decision too. However, last week v Mansfield he changed it too early in my opinion and we were too narrow and never really turned them or got behind them. Yesterday I didn't go but watching the highlights we seemed very very deep second half and the Edwards change looked odd. Seems to me it was saying 'come on then , see if you can get another'. Anyway , onwards .....

[h again]

dim view, on 06 October 2013 - 12:10 PM, said:

because there was no battle to be won in midfield. It was a penalty area aerial bombardment. Hird and Cooper would have overcome the problem by defending much higher up the pitch.

You strengthen midfield to protect the defence from the constant bombardment. Get enough balls into the box and some of them are going to count, even against a good defence. So put another line of four in front of the defence.
It also helps if you've got a big bloke up front who can win and hold high balls from defensive punts. Come back Armand, all is forgiven.
Togwell instead of Edwards for me though. What a wonderful thing hindsight is.