[newboldsteve]

its about time some town fans should show some class like our manager and give Mansfield some credit they did to us exactly the same as we did to oldham in the jpt semi two years ago did see anyone moaning then

[NOFX]

I watched the Celtic v Barca game and there were so many parallels
If Celtic had scored with their header, they could have sneaked a win that would have them rejoicing.
Not saying we're as good as Barcelona obviously, but at least we pass it.

[Sabreman]

Paul Cox is not a tactical genius neither did he get his tactics spot on, it wasn't his tactics that won Mansfield the game it was our woeful finishing that lost it for us. We hammered them, created enough chances to win three games and played them off the park, they knows it plus every person at the game knows it.

Credit to them for taking the three points however Mansfield got lucky !! it is that simple

[mr. smith]

strangler, on 03 October 2013 - 05:28 PM, said:

I watched the Celtic v Barca game and there were so many parallels
If Celtic had scored with their header, they could have sneaked a win that would have them rejoicing.
Not saying we're as good as Barcelona obviously, but at least we pass it.

probably on a par with celtic though.

[Wooden Spoon]

Fair play to the yellow filth.

The don't have the most technically gifted players in the division,and they were away from home. No doubt that when they play Accrington Stanley at home they wont put 10 men behind the ball. it still might a bit crude and not as pleasing on the eye as our passing game, but its effective and they are where they are in the league table so far on merit and results.

Why wouldn't you go away to the league leaders and defend, and hope to "nick something?" Wimble "tried" a different approach to mandfailed and left with nothing...so why would Cox do the same?

Its an effective way of playing football. Not that I would want to watch it every week, after all we saw enough of that under Duncan - but again, you wont hear me slate Johnny no goals. He did what he needed to do to win a football match. Cox is doing the same. I`d just rather watch Cooks style, even as a neutral

[dtp]

Wooly, on 03 October 2013 - 01:36 PM, said:

You play to your own strengths not to the oppositions. We would have had to been mad to attempt to play you at your game and why should we. There is no diktat from the FA that I am aware of that speculates how many passes around the edge of the box a team must make within 90 minutes. No recommendation that a team should ****** about with the ball and float over ineffective crosses to nobody in particular.

The only thing that matters is putting the ball in the net more than the opposition. We managed that on Saturday but despite all your bluff and bluster, your more expensive team an "superior" footballing prowess- you could not

That is why on the vidi printer and in all the national newsapers - not to mention records that will stand for time immemorial it says Saturday 28th October 2013 Chesterfield 0 - 1 Mansfield Town.

You need to get over it now lads seriously. It's only a game.

I can assure you that the records for time immemorial won't say that mate unless you and Gipsy Rose Lee know something I don't.

Yes, records might state that on 28 September your lot won but in all honesty it was more that our lot lost. You might even think that Cox got his tactics spot on but I choose to differ as time and time again CFC got through your back ten only to finish very weakly. On another day if only 25% of those chances were converted you would have lost by a comfortable margin..

Anyway, I do think you have had an excellent start to life back in the football league and should be congratulated on that.

All the best for the rest of the season and I really don't mind if you finish second in the league this season - just one place below us.

[spyright]

djs, on 03 October 2013 - 05:39 PM, said:

That isn't disputed m8. the fact is we all knew that we got away with murder that night. Its just the fact that the Stags fans seem to think that they played good football to get there result, even it their manager admitted to they got away with the same.

That's not what the guy on this thread is saying though. He's being quite honest and pointing out that they adopted specific tactics against us (which worked - see the result) but that they don't always play like that. And despite the fact that we might not like it, he's absolutely right to point out that ALL teams change their tactics according to whoever they're playing on the day. None of us like losing to our fiercest rivals but its the league position at the end of the season that really matters. Does anyone really believe that the performance by the MTFC team last Saturday was that of the worst team we've ever played against? Let's get real, they aren't sitting in 3rd place in the league and enjoying a run of 8 games without defeat because they really are absolute rubbish. If they truly are that bad then how come we couldn't beat them? Much as it pains me to say it, let's give them some credit for taking all three points, when some on here were convinced we'd score double figures against them. And then let's knock them out of the JPT on Tuesday!

This post has been edited by spyright: 04 October 2013 - 11:28 AM

[Town_Fan]

Their tactics didnt work though did they? They just got lucky simple as that. The opposition having 20 odd shots on goal and completely dominating is hardly a sign of tactical genius.

9 times out of 10 we win that game.

[Nolan]

Wooly, on 03 October 2013 - 12:56 PM, said:

I sense that the butthurt is still strong in some

The fact is that all teams alter their tactics/system depending on who they are playing, and then fine tune them or change them again depending on what transpires through the course of the match.

I know for a fact that Chesterfield FC had Stags watched for a couple of games prior to our match, as we would have had a scout or three watch the Spires. Such is the norm. It's upto your manager to do his homework and devise the plan to counter the opposition. In the end our defence was better than your attack on the day. This was evidenced by the fact that you did not score a goal.

I know you would like to think of yourself as the font of all knowledge regarding our teams style of play after watching one whole game at the Proact Stadium. But I have to inform you that you know naffink. LOL

We do play passing football when the situation dictates. We did to Portsmouth second half what you did to us last week- (how we only drew is as much a mystery as how you didn't score) and we also passed Dag & Red off the pitch as well. Other wins have been more ground out affairs.

Carry on crying though. I tell you what send me a pm before the next match stating what formation and tactics we should play and I'll have a word with Paul Cox and see if he will change it just for you.

In the mean time I expect us to carry on playing to our strengths - if that means digging in a defending like we did against teams who have spent considerably more money on players (like CFC have) then so be it.

by the way - 6 minutes extra time LOL

What a load of rubbish! Mansfield won well done. But suggest or even believe that it was down to superior tactics is a load of rubbish. Yes Mansfield had a game plan, but the win was down to luck and frustration from us. We should have and would have on another day scored at least twice in the first half and if that was the case what would Mansfield's superior tactics be then? Especially when every player looked scared and didn't know what to do.. When you had a free kick near the edge of our area, we played a high line to null your height advantage. What did you do... still played the high ball straight to Tommy Lee. Just showing NO IDEA. However we didn't score, you scored, we got frustrated, we have all seen games like this and those that play will have played in games like it too. Sometimes its due to the rub of the green on the day. That's all. Milk it while you can. I cannot honestly see Mansfield doing much this season, but have only watched them once so what do I know...

[Spire-ite]

spyright, on 04 October 2013 - 11:27 AM, said:

That's not what the guy on this thread is saying though. He's being quite honest and pointing out that they adopted specific tactics against us (which worked - see the result) but that they don't always play like that. And despite the fact that we might not like it, he's absolutely right to point out that ALL teams change their tactics according to whoever they're playing on the day. None of us like losing to our fiercest rivals but its the league position at the end of the season that really matters. Does anyone really believe that the performance by the MTFC team last Saturday was that of the worst team we've ever played against? Let's get real, they aren't sitting in 3rd place in the league and enjoying a run of 8 games without defeat because they really are absolute rubbish. If they truly are that bad then how come we couldn't beat them? Much as it pains me to say it, let's give them some credit for taking all three points, when some on here were convinced we'd score double figures against them. And then let's knock them out of the JPT on Tuesday!

Yes I truly believe that MTFC team I saw last week, is the WORST team I've seen us play in years!!!
As others have posted, we should have gone in at halftime 4-2 up!
They had no plan b, what would they have done if we had converted a quarter of our chances? Come out and play football against us? Yeah, and we would have got a rugby score.
They got lucky, we didn't take any of our many chances, plus their keeper got MOTM,!!!!
Their so called best player Clucas got subbed!! He was ineffective.
They were dire by anybody's standard.
To think they will be anywhere near promotion is delusion.

[McScab]

Spire-ite, on 05 October 2013 - 08:58 AM, said:

Yes I truly believe that MTFC team I saw last week, is the WORST team I've seen us play in years!!!
As others have posted, we should have gone in at halftime 4-2 up!
They had no plan b, what would they have done if we had converted a quarter of our chances? Come out and play football against us? Yeah, and we would have got a rugby score.
They got lucky, we didn't take any of our many chances, plus their keeper got MOTM,!!!!
Their so called best player Clucas got subbed!! He was ineffective.
They were dire by anybody's standard.
To think they will be anywhere near promotion is delusion.

Fancy losing at home to the worst team you played against in years,

[spyright]

Spire-ite, on 05 October 2013 - 08:58 AM, said:

Yes I truly believe that MTFC team I saw last week, is the WORST team I've seen us play in years!!!
As others have posted, we should have gone in at halftime 4-2 up!
They had no plan b, what would they have done if we had converted a quarter of our chances? Come out and play football against us? Yeah, and we would have got a rugby score.
They got lucky, we didn't take any of our many chances, plus their keeper got MOTM,!!!!
Their so called best player Clucas got subbed!! He was ineffective.
They were dire by anybody's standard.
To think they will be anywhere near promotion is delusion.

I don't recall saying they will be anywhere near promotion. I was simply trying to point out that some of our fans seem to be letting blind hatred get the better of their common sense. We all hate losing to Mansfield, just as all their fans hate losing to us. Yes, we should have buried them on the day but we didn't, and part of the reason for that was the way they chose to play against us. We can go on about how the stats showed we were the better team (and we were) but the record books will say CFC 0 - 1 MTFC. No amount of bile and name-calling will change that.