[Skywalker]

Walking away despondently from the ground last night, I found myself contemplating how far we’d fallen since the dizzy heights of the L2 Championship. Approximately 18 months ago, we had a top quality squad and played some of the best football any Spireiete Supporter has ever seen. The ground was buzzing and long suffering supporters were buoyant and optimistic of a bright future. Roll on to yesterday and that was about as poor a performance as I’ve ever seen. To start with a defensive formation at home to the club in 92nd position is quite possibly as blatant a message of ‘Sack me now’ Tommy Wright could have given Dave Allen.

A lack of fight, energy, enthusiasm and passion (Darikwas excluded). On that performance I’d make pretty much the entire squad available for transfer – absolute dire!! Perhaps I’m being harsh, but let’s remember we have a playing budget that on paper should see us in the top 5 not languishing to break down one of the worst defences in the entire football league.

If I was to pick out any positives it would be that Sam Hird had his best game for us (maybe due to facing a non-existent attack). Darikwa continues to impress and was probably our only source of an attacking threat and it was refreshing to see a passionate Manager constantly encouraging/prompting his team despite witnessing such a lacklustre display.

With regards to TW and MC, my opinion of them has changed. I was prepared to support their continued employment with CFC and wouldn’t have had any issue if they had got the Management job full-time, but 3 consecutive shambolic performances at home employing negativite tactics that make a John Duncan side look offensively orientated is the final straw for me. I only hope the ‘pop’ loving Sheridan gets re-employed as soon as possible and takes these 2 inept wage stealers with him.

This post has been edited by Skywalker: 28 October 2012 - 11:13 AM

[Waller is my hero]

Skywalker, on 28 October 2012 - 11:10 AM, said:

Walking away despondently from the ground last night, I found myself contemplating how far we’d fallen since the dizzy heights of the L2 Championship. Approximately 18 months ago, we had a top quality squad and played some of the best football any Spireiete Supporter has ever seen. The ground was buzzing and long suffering supporters were buoyant and optimistic of a bright future. Roll on to yesterday and that was about as poor a performance as I’ve ever seen. To start with a defensive formation at home to the club in 92nd position is quite possibly as blatant a message of ‘Sack me now’ Tommy Wright could have given Dave Allen.

A lack of fight, energy, enthusiasm and passion (Darikwas excluded). On that performance I’d make pretty much the entire squad available for transfer – absolute dire!! Perhaps I’m being harsh, but let’s remember we have a playing budget that on paper should see us in the top 5 not languishing to break down one of the worst defences in the entire football league.

If I was to pick out any positives it would be that Sam Hird had his best game for us (maybe due to facing a non-existent attack). Darikwa continues to impress and was probably our only source of an attacking threat and it was refreshing to see a passionate Manager constantly encouraging/prompting his team despite witnessing such a lacklustre display.

With regards to TW and MC, my opinion of them has changed. I was prepared to support their continued employment with CFC and wouldn’t have had any issue if they had got the Management job full-time, but 3 consecutive shambolic performances at home employing negativite tactics that make a John Duncan side look offensively orientated is the final straw for me. I only hope the ‘pop’ loving Sheridan gets re-employed as soon as possible and takes these 2 inept wage stealers with him.

Cue Sophicles....................

[Rodney's Moustache]

Skywalker, on 28 October 2012 - 11:10 AM, said:

Walking away despondently from the ground last night, I found myself contemplating how far we'd fallen since the dizzy heights of the L2 Championship. Approximately 18 months ago, we had a top quality squad and played some of the best football any Spireiete Supporter has ever seen. The ground was buzzing and long suffering supporters were buoyant and optimistic of a bright future. Roll on to yesterday and that was about as poor a performance as I've ever seen. To start with a defensive formation at home to the club in 92nd position is quite possibly as blatant a message of 'Sack me now' Tommy Wright could have given Dave Allen.

A lack of fight, energy, enthusiasm and passion (Darikwas excluded). On that performance I'd make pretty much the entire squad available for transfer – absolute dire!! Perhaps I'm being harsh, but let's remember we have a playing budget that on paper should see us in the top 5 not languishing to break down one of the worst defences in the entire football league.

If I was to pick out any positives it would be that Sam Hird had his best game for us (maybe due to facing a non-existent attack). Darikwa continues to impress and was probably our only source of an attacking threat and it was refreshing to see a passionate Manager constantly encouraging/prompting his team despite witnessing such a lacklustre display.

With regards to TW and MC, my opinion of them has changed. I was prepared to support their continued employment with CFC and wouldn't have had any issue if they had got the Management job full-time, but 3 consecutive shambolic performances at home employing negativite tactics that make a John Duncan side look offensively orientated is the final straw for me. I only hope the 'pop' loving Sheridan gets re-employed as soon as possible and takes these 2 inept wage stealers with him.

Nice to see someone acknowledge that they were wrong even the East stand happy clappy brigade to my right didn't applaud at the end we were that bad.Could folk not see that it was only ever "jobs for the boys" as far as Wright and Crossley were concerned although I will acknowledge that MC appeared to do well with coaching Tommy.I liked DA's rhetoric but what he didn't do is acknowledge the huge part he has played in getting us to where we are now.Cook should make them all available fro transfer because it's clear that the vast majority don't care and have no passion for the shirt.Ship them out and bring in players who want to play for the club.

[BlueRover52]

Rodney, on 28 October 2012 - 11:46 AM, said:

Nice to see someone acknowledge that they were wrong even the East stand happy clappy brigade to my right didn't applaud at the end we were that bad.Could folk not see that it was only ever "jobs for the boys" as far as Wright and Crossley were concerned although I will acknowledge that MC appeared to do well with coaching Tommy.I liked DA's rhetoric but what he didn't do is acknowledge the huge part he has played in getting us to where we are now.Cook should make them all available fro transfer because it's clear that the vast majority don't care and have no passion for the shirt.Ship them out and bring in players who want to play for the club.

I've no doubt Cook will try and get some fresh faces in but he'll be under some sort of constraints borne by his predesessors.

[antony hawkins]

It makes you wonder if TW & MC really wanted the job, playing negative tatics at home, They are fully aware that DA likes entertaining football.

This post has been edited by Prawn Sandwich: 28 October 2012 - 01:20 PM

[The Earl of Chesterfield]

Skywalker, on 28 October 2012 - 11:10 AM, said:

Walking away despondently from the ground last night, I found myself contemplating how far we’d fallen since the dizzy heights of the L2 Championship. Approximately 18 months ago, we had a top quality squad and played some of the best football any Spireiete Supporter has ever seen. The ground was buzzing and long suffering supporters were buoyant and optimistic of a bright future. Roll on to yesterday and that was about as poor a performance as I’ve ever seen. To start with a defensive formation at home to the club in 92nd position is quite possibly as blatant a message of ‘Sack me now’ Tommy Wright could have given Dave Allen.

A lack of fight, energy, enthusiasm and passion (Darikwas excluded). On that performance I’d make pretty much the entire squad available for transfer – absolute dire!! Perhaps I’m being harsh, but let’s remember we have a playing budget that on paper should see us in the top 5 not languishing to break down one of the worst defences in the entire football league.

If I was to pick out any positives it would be that Sam Hird had his best game for us (maybe due to facing a non-existent attack). Darikwa continues to impress and was probably our only source of an attacking threat and it was refreshing to see a passionate Manager constantly encouraging/prompting his team despite witnessing such a lacklustre display.

With regards to TW and MC, my opinion of them has changed. I was prepared to support their continued employment with CFC and wouldn’t have had any issue if they had got the Management job full-time, but 3 consecutive shambolic performances at home employing negativite tactics that make a John Duncan side look offensively orientated is the final straw for me. I only hope the ‘pop’ loving Sheridan gets re-employed as soon as possible and takes these 2 inept wage stealers with him.

Excellent post, 'S'.

[jr1cfc]

Prawn Sandwich, on 28 October 2012 - 01:13 PM, said:

It makes you wonder if TW & MC really wanted the job, playing negative tatics at home, They are fully aware that DA likes entertaining football.

I think they were concentrating more on not losing than actually winning hence the 1 up front tactics

[Skywalker]

jr1cfc, on 28 October 2012 - 02:32 PM, said:

I think they were concentrating more on not losing than actually winning hence the 1 up front tactics

Worrying about the attacking threats of the 92nd placed club in the football league is not what I’d expect from a CFC side.

[Sabreman]

Skywalker, on 28 October 2012 - 11:10 AM, said:

Walking away despondently from the ground last night, I found myself contemplating how far we’d fallen since the dizzy heights of the L2 Championship. Approximately 18 months ago, we had a top quality squad and played some of the best football any Spireiete Supporter has ever seen. The ground was buzzing and long suffering supporters were buoyant and optimistic of a bright future. Roll on to yesterday and that was about as poor a performance as I’ve ever seen. To start with a defensive formation at home to the club in 92nd position is quite possibly as blatant a message of ‘Sack me now’ Tommy Wright could have given Dave Allen.

A lack of fight, energy, enthusiasm and passion (Darikwas excluded). On that performance I’d make pretty much the entire squad available for transfer – absolute dire!! Perhaps I’m being harsh, but let’s remember we have a playing budget that on paper should see us in the top 5 not languishing to break down one of the worst defences in the entire football league.

If I was to pick out any positives it would be that Sam Hird had his best game for us (maybe due to facing a non-existent attack). Darikwa continues to impress and was probably our only source of an attacking threat and it was refreshing to see a passionate Manager constantly encouraging/prompting his team despite witnessing such a lacklustre display.

With regards to TW and MC, my opinion of them has changed. I was prepared to support their continued employment with CFC and wouldn’t have had any issue if they had got the Management job full-time, but 3 consecutive shambolic performances at home employing negativite tactics that make a John Duncan side look offensively orientated is the final straw for me. I only hope the ‘pop’ loving Sheridan gets re-employed as soon as possible and takes these 2 inept wage stealers with him.

Good post spot on, three defeats at home on the trot with the same formation, once even twice you can except but a third time against the bottom of the whole football league. I want Tommy as far away from this club as is possible, truly clueless !!

[h again]

Rodney, on 28 October 2012 - 11:46 AM, said:

Nice to see someone acknowledge that they were wrong even the East stand happy clappy brigade to my right didn't applaud at the end we were that bad.Could folk not see that it was only ever "jobs for the boys" as far as Wright and Crossley were concerned although I will acknowledge that MC appeared to do well with coaching Tommy.I liked DA's rhetoric but what he didn't do is acknowledge the huge part he has played in getting us to where we are now.Cook should make them all available fro transfer because it's clear that the vast majority don't care and have no passion for the shirt.Ship them out and bring in players who want to play for the club.

You must know that's pie in the sky. They've all got contracts and we can't get rid without paying them up, unless somebody ewill take them off us - unlikely at this stage of the season.
If we've signed a good Manager he'll get them playing as a team, because they aren't useless at all. We've been let down, but it seems the players have been let down even more by the lackadaisical attitudes of the Management. I'm confident things can be turned round, and without any drastic changes to playing staff.

[Skywalker]

Rodney, on 28 October 2012 - 11:46 AM, said:

Nice to see someone acknowledge that they were wrong even the East stand happy clappy brigade to my right didn't applaud at the end we were that bad.Could folk not see that it was only ever "jobs for the boys" as far as Wright and Crossley were concerned although I will acknowledge that MC appeared to do well with coaching Tommy.I liked DA's rhetoric but what he didn't do is acknowledge the huge part he has played in getting us to where we are now.Cook should make them all available fro transfer because it's clear that the vast majority don't care and have no passion for the shirt.Ship them out and bring in players who want to play for the club.

I’m not afraid to change my opinion if the substance that I base it on changes. Wright had a fairly decent start as Manager getting the team to be defensively more disciplined and actually keep clean sheets. His squad had been hampered by injuries and lost he lost a key player in Bowery, so I think he had justifiable reason to claim he was doing a decent job under the circumstances. However, the more influence he seemed to have on the team the worse we played. The form at Home has got worse and his final swansong against Barnet (picking the team/formation) pretty much confirms he was out of his depth.

[Exharboroughspireite]

just listened to his interview. interesting stuff. "i dont see a single positive" "players get paid big money to play" "the lads have picked the team...its not good enough" "i want to work with them....for some of them it wont be very long" "im not discussing individual performances, we lost 1-0"

i like the sound of this guy, and its clear that we will see some new faces by the end of january. i like the sound of players working harder, training more and competing more. if i were some of the squad here, i would be VERY worried about my future here.

[Wooden Spoon]

h again, on 28 October 2012 - 05:08 PM, said:

You must know that's pie in the sky. They've all got contracts and we can't get rid without paying them up, unless somebody ewill take them off us - unlikely at this stage of the season.
If we've signed a good Manager he'll get them playing as a team, because they aren't useless at all. We've been let down, but it seems the players have been let down even more by the lackadaisical attitudes of the Management. I'm confident things can be turned round, and without any drastic changes to playing staff.

Thats pretty much where I am as well. One or additions, and get the players we have to run, move and play with some urgency, tackle harry etc when we dont have the ball, and play to a system and shape that can utilise the players (this I admit is probably the hardest part). We have some very talented footballers for L2, but some seem to be pedestrian, un interested and lacking desire.

[60s 70s Spireite]

necronomicon ex mortis, on 28 October 2012 - 08:24 PM, said:

Thats pretty much where I am as well. One or additions, and get the players we have to run, move and play with some urgency, tackle harry etc when we dont have the ball, and play to a system and shape that can utilise the players (this I admit is probably the hardest part). We have some very talented footballers for L2, but some seem to be pedestrian, un interested and lacking desire.

Keith Andrews was on Radio Five this pm, and was asked, a per pro QPR, if he had ever been in a side that was on a losing streak. Yes was the reply. And it was a nightmare. The more they tried something different, the more it failed. They only found new ways to lose. I fear that's where we are at the moment. Especially at home. Lets hope Cook can unlock the latent skill we have.

[Skywalker]

djs, on 28 October 2012 - 08:13 PM, said:

Good post Mike... It is Mike, isn't it?. At halftime I was quite euphoric thinking things would get better, how wrong could I have been. We had more efforts in the first half of this game than we had in the previous 3. Fleetwood hurt but this was on another level I was speechless and totally numb. Tonight that feeling is turning into a degree of anger now.

Hi Dave,

I thought the presence of Paul Cook on the bench was the thing that inspired me most all. Despite the appalling formation and team selection, we played ok first half. However, second half was about as bad as I've seen in a long time.

By the way it’s Ant not Mike.

[Skywalker]

harboroughspireite, on 28 October 2012 - 08:22 PM, said:

just listened to his interview. interesting stuff. "i dont see a single positive" "players get paid big money to play" "the lads have picked the team...its not good enough" "i want to work with them....for some of them it wont be very long" "im not discussing individual performances, we lost 1-0"

i like the sound of this guy, and its clear that we will see some new faces by the end of january. i like the sound of players working harder, training more and competing more. if i were some of the squad here, i would be VERY worried about my future here.

I really dislike long after match interviews trying to dissect where things went wrong. The fact remains that we were cr*p and we lost. Paul Cook tells it how it is

[semi130497]

Skywalker, on 28 October 2012 - 11:10 AM, said:

Walking away despondently from the ground last night, I found myself contemplating how far we’d fallen since the dizzy heights of the L2 Championship. Approximately 18 months ago, we had a top quality squad and played some of the best football any Spireiete Supporter has ever seen. The ground was buzzing and long suffering supporters were buoyant and optimistic of a bright future. Roll on to yesterday and that was about as poor a performance as I’ve ever seen. To start with a defensive formation at home to the club in 92nd position is quite possibly as blatant a message of ‘Sack me now’ Tommy Wright could have given Dave Allen.

A lack of fight, energy, enthusiasm and passion (Darikwas excluded). On that performance I’d make pretty much the entire squad available for transfer – absolute dire!! Perhaps I’m being harsh, but let’s remember we have a playing budget that on paper should see us in the top 5 not languishing to break down one of the worst defences in the entire football league.

If I was to pick out any positives it would be that Sam Hird had his best game for us (maybe due to facing a non-existent attack). Darikwa continues to impress and was probably our only source of an attacking threat and it was refreshing to see a passionate Manager constantly encouraging/prompting his team despite witnessing such a lacklustre display.

With regards to TW and MC, my opinion of them has changed. I was prepared to support their continued employment with CFC and wouldn’t have had any issue if they had got the Management job full-time, but 3 consecutive shambolic performances at home employing negativite tactics that make a John Duncan side look offensively orientated is the final straw for me. I only hope the ‘pop’ loving Sheridan gets re-employed as soon as possible and takes these 2 inept wage stealers with him.

I wasn't there but the fact that a rational, cool headed poster should put up something so angry tells me how bad it was.

[DRL]

Skywalker, on 28 October 2012 - 11:10 AM, said:

Walking away despondently from the ground last night, I found myself contemplating how far we’d fallen since the dizzy heights of the L2 Championship. Approximately 18 months ago, we had a top quality squad and played some of the best football any Spireiete Supporter has ever seen. The ground was buzzing and long suffering supporters were buoyant and optimistic of a bright future. Roll on to yesterday and that was about as poor a performance as I’ve ever seen. To start with a defensive formation at home to the club in 92nd position is quite possibly as blatant a message of ‘Sack me now’ Tommy Wright could have given Dave Allen.

A lack of fight, energy, enthusiasm and passion (Darikwas excluded). On that performance I’d make pretty much the entire squad available for transfer – absolute dire!! Perhaps I’m being harsh, but let’s remember we have a playing budget that on paper should see us in the top 5 not languishing to break down one of the worst defences in the entire football league.

If I was to pick out any positives it would be that Sam Hird had his best game for us (maybe due to facing a non-existent attack). Darikwa continues to impress and was probably our only source of an attacking threat and it was refreshing to see a passionate Manager constantly encouraging/prompting his team despite witnessing such a lacklustre display.

With regards to TW and MC, my opinion of them has changed. I was prepared to support their continued employment with CFC and wouldn’t have had any issue if they had got the Management job full-time, but 3 consecutive shambolic performances at home employing negativite tactics that make a John Duncan side look offensively orientated is the final straw for me. I only hope the ‘pop’ loving Sheridan gets re-employed as soon as possible and takes these 2 inept wage stealers with him.

Good post. Focusing on being hard to beat is not quite like a focus on winning